Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
surely makes sense. if they are gonna introduce simulations, why not go all the way. well oks if they wanna keep these simulations and their quality, then restrict it to the ccna coz you would find a lot of newbies who are giving that exam these days. dont introduce the low quality stuff on ccnp coz professionals would just get bugged off it. sam sneed wrote: > I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No > abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make > their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're > simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without > using tab completion or "?". > > My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP > too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going > to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. > > ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38116&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
I am referring to exams.
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"you should always remember the full command." - are you simply
referring
to exam situations, or do you consider that in "real life" it is
necessary
to remember the full commands? (No, I don't consider exams to be real
life ;-)
If you're just talking about exams, fair enough, but if you're talking
about real world situations, why do you think this?
JMcL
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Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should
always remember the full command.
The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support
the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real
equipment.
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I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command.
No
abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to
make
their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're
simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without
using tab completion or "?".
My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP
too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're
going
to be half-assed about it don't do it at all.
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> "you should always remember the full command." - are you simply referring > to exam situations, or do you consider that in "real life" it is necessary > to remember the full commands? (No, I don't consider exams to be real > life ;-) If you're just talking about exams, fair enough, but if you're talking > about real world situations, why do you think this? I think you would be surprised how many people do not know what conf t really means. Forcing people to use the full command makes them learn more about what it does. We all should at least know what the full command does, then and only then should we use the abbreviated versions Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38058&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The simulation that's on the web page is from a POS simulator they did for the Network Academies; I doubt that's the same simulator that will wind up on the tests. I looked around in the certification online support and found this: Command Lines Question What is the proper way to enter command lines during Cisco Career Certification exams? Answer There are many ways to enter command lines into actual Cisco Routers. The exam will accept all IOS commands and partial responses that an actual Cisco Router will understand. For example: 'Show Config' or 'Sho Config' or 'Sh Conf' - would be acceptable. 'Router # show ip protocol' or 'router # show ip prot' - would be acceptable. The commands must include the correct spacing, spelling and marks (#@!). I'd post a link, but it's through their "RightNow" deal and the word wrap would pretty much kill it. If you want to read it, go to the online support page at: http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ciscocert.cfg/php/enduser/home.php (watch the wrap) and search for "enter command lines". hth, Hal -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38010&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The simulations they demo are the same type and topology configuration that we use in our academy curriculum. Anyone wishing to practice them can get the software by purchasing one of the Academy Companion Guides (Year 1 or Year 2) from Cisco Press. The simulations are on the CD that comes with the books, which are also excellent study references. As Harold Logan pointed out, you have the option in the exam simulators to enter the full or partial command, unlike the simulator on the CDs. It is the old learn to walk before you run philosophy. As others have mentioned, I would think simulations for the CCNP exams can't be far away. HTH, Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Andy Barkl wrote: > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38025&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"you should always remember the full command." - are you simply referring
to exam situations, or do you consider that in "real life" it is necessary
to remember the full commands? (No, I don't consider exams to be real
life ;-)
If you're just talking about exams, fair enough, but if you're talking
about real world situations, why do you think this?
JMcL
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"Andy Barkl"
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Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should
always remember the full command.
The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support
the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real
equipment.
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sam sneed
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I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command.
No
abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to
make
their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're
simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without
using tab completion or "?".
My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP
too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're
going
to be half-assed about it don't do it at all.
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RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
On the written test for all the CCNP test I did, no abbrv's were allowed either. I am about to sit the CCIE written and still there are no abbrv's allowed. So its not like they changed anything for the new CCNA.if you know the commands you wont have any problems.. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of sam sneed Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38012&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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About time they make the exam a bit more difficult! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38011&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please excuse my Gripe about the Switching CIM in my last post on this thread... Just as I sent the message, I realized I was mixing "apples a.k.a. CCNA" with "oranges a.k.a. CCNP" for Cisco Career Certification prep. Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should always remember the full command. The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real equipment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of sam sneed Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38009&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I still think it would be a waste to memorize the entire command. In the real world you get the ? option so what point in memorizing everything. They're better off testing us on harder configs than making us type out the whole command and memorize the exact options. The CCNA is entry level and is not bound to any specific hardware or IOS version. We all know that commands are slightly different on the various routers and switches so it only makes sense to give the ? option. (example look at the difference in creating vlans on a 1900, 3500XL, and 2948GL-3) There is no CCIE that would be able to survive day without the ? option just the same as there is no UNIX admin that would get by without typing man " " or using some form of the -h option. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should > always remember the full command. > > The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support > the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real > equipment. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > sam sneed > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] > > I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. > No > abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to > make > their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're > simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without > using tab completion or "?". > > My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP > too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're > going > to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38007&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've used both simulators from the sites you referred to ... and though they give a little exposure, I found for the most part that they still were lame. 30-40% of the commands that the tutorials tell you to give in the simulator don't actually work. And you get a verrry limited help on only the commands that the tutorial session is covering. If you wanted to query help for a command in a previous lab simulation, your S.O.L it doesn't allow it. A personal gripe for the Switching CIM: It doesn't cover MLS :( I would expect this to be a more important topic of the subject than configuring Multicast. How many Small to Medium networks do you see using Multicast (I know I haven't)... How many Small to Medium networks do you see using MLS (I've seen at least a couple of those). But... you are quite correct... Nothing beats the real equipment! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should always remember the full command. The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real equipment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of sam sneed Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38008&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you're well on your way to the CCNP, I wouldn't be very concerned with any changes to the CCNA... it'll be easy for you. Sean -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38000&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A fellow that I work with just took the CCNA today, it is currently still testing at the 507 level. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of VanHaaren, Nicole Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] A friend of mine just scheduled hers today, but is still taking the 640-507 test. Nicole VanHaaren, CCNP, CCSE Systems Consultant Broadwing Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37993&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No need. And your CCNP will update the expiration date of your existing CCNA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37987&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am very near the CCIE level and I understand what you are saying. However the fact remains that the exams require full command line knowledge and most simulators are designed to support that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott H. Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I never use the full commands anymore. Takes too much time. You will find when you get to the CCIE level that you don't have time for it and for the most part forget the entire commands. You just remember the abbreviated ones. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should > always remember the full command. > > The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support > the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real > equipment. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37986&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A friend of mine just scheduled hers today, but is still taking the 640-507 test. Nicole VanHaaren, CCNP, CCSE Systems Consultant Broadwing Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37984&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37981&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I never use the full commands anymore. Takes too much time. You will find when you get to the CCIE level that you don't have time for it and for the most part forget the entire commands. You just remember the abbreviated ones. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should > always remember the full command. > > The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support > the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real > equipment. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > sam sneed > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] > > I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. > No > abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to > make > their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're > simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without > using tab completion or "?". > > My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP > too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're > going > to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37979&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should always remember the full command. The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real equipment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of sam sneed Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37978&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37975&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
According to what I see on the website, use the sample router simulator they provide and you should have no problems. The exam objectives have not changed, just the question format. -Original Message- From: Kazan, Naim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:16 AM To: 'Andy Barkl'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] Ok, that's great! I invested in CCNA 640-507 books and now they change over to 607. I hope we can still use this material to study for the exam. Any input will help.Thanks -Original Message- From: Andy Barkl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37972&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
The objectives will be the same according to the e-mail I got. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. ""Kazan, Naim"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Ok, that's great! I invested in CCNA 640-507 books and now they change over > to 607. I hope we can still use this material to study for the exam. Any > input will help.Thanks > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Andy Barkl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] > > > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37971&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
Ok, that's great! I invested in CCNA 640-507 books and now they change over to 607. I hope we can still use this material to study for the exam. Any input will help.Thanks -Original Message- From: Andy Barkl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37969&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
Good. Keeps the CCNA honest. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37962&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
