RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 17/04/2001 03:10 pm --- "ElephantChild" @groupstudy.com on 15/04/2001 06:51:39 am Please respond to "ElephantChild" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: I still struggle with the question of whether the token rotates in the opposite direction in the Southern Hemisphere. It does, except when you lift your whole network gently and flip it upside down. JMcL: Ouch. Just imagine the gyroscopic effect THAT would create on a heavily loaded ring :-) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=876t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
I find most of CCO to be in that category ;- -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:47 AM To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] Do they have a paper of "DUH ???" as Raul suggests I pursue that one too :o) Phil - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] Don't have time to look into this more deeply today. Try http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ibm_ c/bcprt2/bcdovnet.htm CCO has several pages about virtual token-ring interfaces. They had something else in mind apparently, when developing the concept. But it may well be adaptable to a home-lab situation. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Raul F. Fernandez Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] I believe one of the papers in the certificationzone.com talks about this. In fact it is the Token Ring paper. DUH! Raul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] Any taker's yet John ??? I have never heard of such a thing... I know the Telco provisions virtual FDDI rings or section of bandwidth in our local DC MAN, but ya gotta be hooked to the physical to take part. Phil - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] A while back we were discussing home lab equipment purchases. While on the topic of token ring, someone suggested that it was not necessary to buy any routers with token ring interfaces because we could make use of the virtual-tokenring interface. Being new to token ring and its related configurations, I'm wondering if any of you have heard of ways to use this successfully in a home lab (or any lab, for that matter.) If I could practice with token ring and SRB without shelling out more bucks for two more routers I'd be quite pleased. any thoughts, hints, tips, or suggestions? Thanks, John FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=704t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
Any taker's yet John ??? I have never heard of such a thing... I know the Telco provisions virtual FDDI rings or section of bandwidth in our local DC MAN, but ya gotta be hooked to the physical to take part. Phil - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] A while back we were discussing home lab equipment purchases. While on the topic of token ring, someone suggested that it was not necessary to buy any routers with token ring interfaces because we could make use of the virtual-tokenring interface. Being new to token ring and its related configurations, I'm wondering if any of you have heard of ways to use this successfully in a home lab (or any lab, for that matter.) If I could practice with token ring and SRB without shelling out more bucks for two more routers I'd be quite pleased. any thoughts, hints, tips, or suggestions? Thanks, John FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=619t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
I believe one of the papers in the certificationzone.com talks about this. In fact it is the Token Ring paper. DUH! Raul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] Any taker's yet John ??? I have never heard of such a thing... I know the Telco provisions virtual FDDI rings or section of bandwidth in our local DC MAN, but ya gotta be hooked to the physical to take part. Phil - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] A while back we were discussing home lab equipment purchases. While on the topic of token ring, someone suggested that it was not necessary to buy any routers with token ring interfaces because we could make use of the virtual-tokenring interface. Being new to token ring and its related configurations, I'm wondering if any of you have heard of ways to use this successfully in a home lab (or any lab, for that matter.) If I could practice with token ring and SRB without shelling out more bucks for two more routers I'd be quite pleased. any thoughts, hints, tips, or suggestions? Thanks, John FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=625t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
Don't have time to look into this more deeply today. Try http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ibm_ c/bcprt2/bcdovnet.htm CCO has several pages about virtual token-ring interfaces. They had something else in mind apparently, when developing the concept. But it may well be adaptable to a home-lab situation. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Raul F. Fernandez Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] I believe one of the papers in the certificationzone.com talks about this. In fact it is the Token Ring paper. DUH! Raul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] Any taker's yet John ??? I have never heard of such a thing... I know the Telco provisions virtual FDDI rings or section of bandwidth in our local DC MAN, but ya gotta be hooked to the physical to take part. Phil - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] A while back we were discussing home lab equipment purchases. While on the topic of token ring, someone suggested that it was not necessary to buy any routers with token ring interfaces because we could make use of the virtual-tokenring interface. Being new to token ring and its related configurations, I'm wondering if any of you have heard of ways to use this successfully in a home lab (or any lab, for that matter.) If I could practice with token ring and SRB without shelling out more bucks for two more routers I'd be quite pleased. any thoughts, hints, tips, or suggestions? Thanks, John FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=627t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
Ouch, it hurts my head trying to read that page!I think I saw that page when I was searching CCO for uses of the virtual token ring interface. It appears to be used in SNASw, but a previous post gave me the impression that it could somehow be used for more basic token ring study. The specific context was that we could avoid buying token ring routers if we used this other method. From what I've read so far, I still don't see how that is very feasible and I was hoping someone out there had done this before. I'll have to read the CertificationZone paper again and look for that specifically. Thanks all! John | Don't have time to look into this more deeply today. Try | | http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ibm_ | c/bcprt2/bcdovnet.htm | | CCO has several pages about virtual token-ring interfaces. They had | something else in mind apparently, when developing the concept. But it may | well be adaptable to a home-lab situation. | | Chuck | | -Original Message- | From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Raul | F. Fernandez | Sent:Saturday, April 14, 2001 9:17 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] | | I believe one of the papers in the certificationzone.com talks about this. | In fact it is the Token Ring paper. DUH! | | Raul | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of | Circusnuts | Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:56 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] | | | Any taker's yet John ??? I have never heard of such a thing... I know the | Telco provisions virtual FDDI rings or section of bandwidth in our local DC | MAN, but ya gotta be hooked to the physical to take part. | | Phil | | - Original Message - | From: John Neiberger | To: | Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:52 PM | Subject: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] | | | A while back we were discussing home lab equipment purchases. While on | the topic of token ring, someone suggested that it was not necessary to | buy any routers with token ring interfaces because we could make use of | the virtual-tokenring interface. | | Being new to token ring and its related configurations, I'm wondering | if any of you have heard of ways to use this successfully in a home lab | (or any lab, for that matter.) If I could practice with token ring and | SRB without shelling out more bucks for two more routers I'd be quite | pleased. | | any thoughts, hints, tips, or suggestions? | | Thanks, | John | FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: | http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html | Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: | http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html | Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: | http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html | Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html | Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=631t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
I still struggle with the question of whether the token rotates in the opposite direction in the Southern Hemisphere. If so, would no IBM LAN operate precisely on the equator? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=645t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
Do they have a paper of "DUH ???" as Raul suggests I pursue that one too :o) Phil - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] Don't have time to look into this more deeply today. Try http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ibm_ c/bcprt2/bcdovnet.htm CCO has several pages about virtual token-ring interfaces. They had something else in mind apparently, when developing the concept. But it may well be adaptable to a home-lab situation. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Raul F. Fernandez Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] I believe one of the papers in the certificationzone.com talks about this. In fact it is the Token Ring paper. DUH! Raul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] Any taker's yet John ??? I have never heard of such a thing... I know the Telco provisions virtual FDDI rings or section of bandwidth in our local DC MAN, but ya gotta be hooked to the physical to take part. Phil - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519] A while back we were discussing home lab equipment purchases. While on the topic of token ring, someone suggested that it was not necessary to buy any routers with token ring interfaces because we could make use of the virtual-tokenring interface. Being new to token ring and its related configurations, I'm wondering if any of you have heard of ways to use this successfully in a home lab (or any lab, for that matter.) If I could practice with token ring and SRB without shelling out more bucks for two more routers I'd be quite pleased. any thoughts, hints, tips, or suggestions? Thanks, John FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=653t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual Token Ring Interface [7:519]
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: I still struggle with the question of whether the token rotates in the opposite direction in the Southern Hemisphere. It does, except when you lift your whole network gently and flip it upside down. If so, would no IBM LAN operate precisely on the equator? (dons DrScience hat) You must be thinking of FDDI. Normally, tokens go round and round in the 2 rings, one clockwise and one counterclockwise, and go past each other without ever touching. However, when they would otherwise cross the equator, tokens reverse direction and switch rings. Sometimes, when that happens, they collide and give birth to exotic MAC layer protocols, which scientists like me study and write long monographs about. Thus were such wonders as BRAP and MLMA discoverd. -- "Someone approached me and asked me to teach a javascript course. I was about to decline, saying that my complete ignorance of the subject made me unsuitable, then I thought again, that maybe it doesn't, as driving people away from it is a desirable outcome." --Me Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=661t=519 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
