Re: Cisco Switches with Stonebeat [7:69505]

2003-06-06 Thread Bikespace
Thanks Ross/Richard,

Some useful documents found with their search engine. I'll hopefully get to
try the suggestions out this week.

Regards,

Bikespace


Richard Botham  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bikespace,
 Just spent a day testing exactly this...spooky

 You're correct , Cisco's cannot put a multicast mac in its arp cache
 dynamically - BUT - you CAN put STATIC ARP entries in a Cisco pointing to
a
 multicast mac.( Even if Layer3 is unicast)

 However there are some small perfomance points here ( only small !)
 Turning CEF on does have some benefits but not huge amounts.

 I threw 100 * 512 byte UPD segments at the Cisco for 5 mins while using a
 static multicast arp entry - It coped just fine.


 HTH Rich




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RE: Cisco Switches with Stonebeat [7:69505]

2003-06-03 Thread Richard Botham
Bikespace,
Just spent a day testing exactly this...spooky

You're correct , Cisco's cannot put a multicast mac in its arp cache
dynamically - BUT - you CAN put STATIC ARP entries in a Cisco pointing to a
multicast mac.( Even if Layer3 is unicast)

However there are some small perfomance points here ( only small !)
Turning CEF on does have some benefits but not huge amounts.

I threw 100 * 512 byte UPD segments at the Cisco for 5 mins while using a
static multicast arp entry - It coped just fine.


HTH Rich


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RE: Cisco Switches with Stonebeat [7:69505]

2003-05-29 Thread Ross McCormick
Have you checked on Stonebeat's site?  They have a number of articles
relating to Cisco equipment and Stonebeat depending on the equipment involved.

In particular,
http://www.stonesoft.com/estone/support/knowledgebase/view.html?id=000475q=cisco

HTH


Bikespace wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Anybody got tales to tell about working with Stonebeat?
 
 I've been having some fun recently. Everything else seems to be
 able to see
 the firewall, but the Cisco is struggling, so devices on the
 same VLAN
 manage OK, because they ARP straight for the firewall. Devices
 on other
 VLAN's don't get through (the firewalls are connected to the
 Cisco
 directly).
 
 I've put static ARP entries in for the Firewall. The crunch is
 the multicast
 address used by the FIrewall (It's not VRRP which would be fine
 - it's
 definitely a Multicast 01005e)
 
 Cisco suggested enabling IP IGMP snooping. Yeah great - it's on
 by default
 on the 4500.
 
 I know Cisco's can not ARP for multicast addresses. I know you
 can't add
 static MAC entries for multicast, but this wouldn't help me too
 much anyway
 as the virtual address will obviously move.
 
 The switch must know where to forward the packets to as devices
 on the same
 VLAN are working, although it did not work until I put IP
 redirects on. I
 would have expected it to forward every packet individually
 even without IP
 redirect???
 
 It's a bit of a sod as the customers switch is allowed about
 half an hours
 down time when organised a week ahead and its a couple of hours
 away anyway.
 Didn't give my brain time to churn before time was up.
 
 I may not get round this without actually setting up Stonebeat
 in full to
 test with, so I'm looking for ANY tips hints tricks before I
 bite the
 bullet.
 
 
 I've prattled on enough for now.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Bikespace
 
 




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RE: Cisco switches and laptops [7:56731]

2002-11-02 Thread Matthew Meiers
Have you tried a different NIC?

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Subject: Cisco switches and laptops [7:56731]

I was wondering if anyone has experienced the same issues as we are
having
at work. We have about 20 remote sites and are in the middle of a
conversion
from 3com equipment to Cisco. Most of the sites we upgrade are getting a
Cisco Catalyst 2950 or 3550 switch. A pattern seems to be forming in
that
after every site that is upgraded, a laptop user who bounces around from
site to site, cannot login because it won't let go of their ip address
from
the last site they were at. No one has this problem at the remaining
3com
switch sites. At first I thought it was coincidence, but now its clear
that
it happens at sites we change to cisco switches. I have enabled portfast
on
all the switchports that are used for workstation access. This has
alleviated some of the problems with laptop users, but others still have
difficulty. Most users are using Dell laptops with Xircom network/modem
combo card. I thought for sure portfast would cure the issue, but it has
not. Anyone else have any experience, thoughts, or ideas?




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Re: Cisco switches and laptops [7:56731]

2002-11-02 Thread Reinhold Fischer
Barry,

not sure what you mean with 'it won't let go of their ip address from the
last site they were at', but maybe this helps you:

Troubleshooting Cisco Catalyst Switches to NIC Compatibility Issues

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/46.html


Regards

Reinhold


On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 02:45:02PM +, Barry Warrick wrote:
 I was wondering if anyone has experienced the same issues as we are having
 at work. We have about 20 remote sites and are in the middle of a
conversion
 from 3com equipment to Cisco. Most of the sites we upgrade are getting a
 Cisco Catalyst 2950 or 3550 switch. A pattern seems to be forming in that
 after every site that is upgraded, a laptop user who bounces around from
 site to site, cannot login because it won't let go of their ip address from
 the last site they were at. No one has this problem at the remaining 3com
 switch sites. At first I thought it was coincidence, but now its clear that
 it happens at sites we change to cisco switches. I have enabled portfast on
 all the switchports that are used for workstation access. This has
 alleviated some of the problems with laptop users, but others still have
 difficulty. Most users are using Dell laptops with Xircom network/modem
 combo card. I thought for sure portfast would cure the issue, but it has
 not. Anyone else have any experience, thoughts, or ideas?




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Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]

2002-03-18 Thread MADMAN

Interesting that you brought the differance in the ARP timers up.  I
have seen some weird problems in a couple of network, things were not
breaking but would see strange traffic, packets getting dropped etc. 
Bumped up the CAM timers on the Cat to match the routers, 14400.

  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml#casestudy8

 This probably doesn't answer your question but it reminded me of the
this issue!!

  Dave

z z wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with
 MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1,
 and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC
 arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300
 seconds. So there will be one problem:
 
 1.  Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2
 (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core
 1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1
 is its gw.
 2.  Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the
 packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the
 frames source mac address to its own mac and the des
 mac to client 2s mac address.
 3.  Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client
 2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its
 arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac
 address so far, since core 1 has translated the
 frames source mac address.
 4.  When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the
 replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client
 1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request,
 core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table
 and aft table.
 5.  this is working fine so far.
 6.  after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out.
 However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do
 any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to
 client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but
 then flood the frames to all the switch ports.
 
 Is my theory correct?
 
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RE: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]

2002-03-18 Thread Larry Letterman

I am assuming the switch/msfc is not running native ios..


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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MADMAN
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]


Interesting that you brought the differance in the ARP timers up.  I
have seen some weird problems in a couple of network, things were not
breaking but would see strange traffic, packets getting dropped etc.
Bumped up the CAM timers on the Cat to match the routers, 14400.

  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml#casestudy8

 This probably doesn't answer your question but it reminded me of the
this issue!!

  Dave

z z wrote:

 Hi

 One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with
 MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1,
 and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC
 arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300
 seconds. So there will be one problem:

 1.  Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2
 (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core
 1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1
 is its gw.
 2.  Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the
 packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the
 frames source mac address to its own mac and the des
 mac to client 2s mac address.
 3.  Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client
 2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its
 arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac
 address so far, since core 1 has translated the
 frames source mac address.
 4.  When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the
 replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client
 1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request,
 core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table
 and aft table.
 5.  this is working fine so far.
 6.  after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out.
 However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do
 any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to
 client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but
 then flood the frames to all the switch ports.

 Is my theory correct?

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Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]

2002-03-18 Thread MADMAN

Yes you are correct.  In native this would not be an issue on the
6500.

  Dave

Larry Letterman wrote:
 
 I am assuming the switch/msfc is not running native ios..
 
 Larry Letterman
 Cisco Systems
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MADMAN
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]
 
 Interesting that you brought the differance in the ARP timers up.  I
 have seen some weird problems in a couple of network, things were not
 breaking but would see strange traffic, packets getting dropped etc.
 Bumped up the CAM timers on the Cat to match the routers, 14400.
 
   http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml#casestudy8
 
  This probably doesn't answer your question but it reminded me of the
 this issue!!
 
   Dave
 
 z z wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with
  MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1,
  and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC
  arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300
  seconds. So there will be one problem:
 
  1.  Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2
  (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core
  1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1
  is its gw.
  2.  Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the
  packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the
  frames source mac address to its own mac and the des
  mac to client 2s mac address.
  3.  Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client
  2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its
  arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac
  address so far, since core 1 has translated the
  frames source mac address.
  4.  When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the
  replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client
  1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request,
  core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table
  and aft table.
  5.  this is working fine so far.
  6.  after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out.
  However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do
  any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to
  client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but
  then flood the frames to all the switch ports.
 
  Is my theory correct?
 
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 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it
Larry Letterman wrote:
 
 I am assuming the switch/msfc is not running native ios..
 
 Larry Letterman
 Cisco Systems
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MADMAN
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]
 
 Interesting that you brought the differance in the ARP timers up.  I
 have seen some weird problems in a couple of network, things were not
 breaking but would see strange traffic, packets getting dropped etc.
 Bumped up the CAM timers on the Cat to match the routers, 14400.
 
   http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml#casestudy8
 
  This probably doesn't answer your question but it reminded me of the
 this issue!!
 
   Dave
 
 z z wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with
  MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1,
  and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC
  arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300
  seconds. So there will be one problem:
 
  1.  Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2
  (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core
  1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1
  is its gw.
  2.  Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the
  packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the
  frames source mac address to its own mac and the des
  mac to client 2s mac address.
  3.  Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client
  2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its
  arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac
  address so far, since core 1 has translated the
  frames source mac address.
  4.  When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the
  replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client
  1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request,
  core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table
  and aft table.
  5.  this is working fine so far.
  6.  after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out.
  However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do
  any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to
  client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but
  then flood the frames to all the switch ports.
 
  Is my

Re: cisco switches (with MSFC) arp timer question [7:38635]

2002-03-18 Thread Rob Webber

For step 3, it depends whether the link between core 1 and core 2 is a
routed link or a trunk (ISL or 802.1Q) link. If its a routed link (such as
VLAN 3, with all VLANs running OSPF), core 1 will route the packet to core 2
and core 2 will route the packet to client 2.

For step 4, client 2 will not ARP for client 1. Since client 1 and client 2
are on different VLANs, client 2 will ARP for its default gateway - core 2.
When core 2 receives the packet it will send it via core 1. Again, depending
on whether this is a routed or trunked link will dictate exactly how this
packet is sent from core 2 to core 1.

Anytime a router (MSFC) needs to forward a packet to a client, if it does
not have an ARP entry, it will ARP for the client.

If a switch ages a MAC address out from its CAM table, it will flood (to all
ports on the VLAN) the very first frame that has a destination of the
unknown MAC address. Due to the flooding, the frame will reach the correct
destination. Once that station replies with the very first packet, the CAM
table will be updated and no more flooding will occur.

Hope that helps - Rob.
CCIE 6922

z z  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi

 One interesting scenario here. Two core switches (with
 MSFC) running HSRP. Core 1 is the master for vlan 1,
 and core 2 is the master for vlan 2. Understand MSFC
 arp timer is 4 hours, but switch CAM timer is 300
 seconds. So there will be one problem:


 1. Client 1 (vlan 1) wants to talk to client 2
 (vlan2). It will send one frame to client 2 using Core
 1s mac address as the destination mac, because Core 1
 is its gw.
 2. Core 1 will check its routing table and forward the
 packet to client 2. Meantime, it will change the
 frames source mac address to its own mac and the des
 mac to client 2s mac address.
 3. Core 2 will just simply switch the frame to client
 2, because core 1 has done the routing. To core 2, its
 arp table and aft table wont contains client 1s mac
 address so far, since core 1 has translated the
 frames source mac address.
 4. When client 2 wants to reply, it will send the
 replying packets to core 2. Core 2 will arp for client
 1s mac address. When client 1 reply this arp request,
 core 2 will add its mac address to both its arp table
 and aft table.
 5. this is working fine so far.
 6. after 300 seconds, core 2s aft table time out.
 However its arp table is still valid, so it wont do
 any more arp request. When client 2 wants to talk to
 client 1, core 2 will do the routing correctly, but
 then flood the frames to all the switch ports.

 Is my theory correct?


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Re: Cisco switches or HP switches? Which to buy?

2001-01-28 Thread Dost

It really depends on your envioronment and applications.
If you need just closet switch, HP will do it. I have worked with Procurves,
no problems with them at
all. You can save good money on HP switches and
they have lifetime warranty.
Inamul


""Bruce Seelinger"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
94ss9h$dfa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:94ss9h$dfa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Remember -  you may not be saving money by buying less expensive hardware
 with the same functionality.  You need to factor in the support available,
 the reliability of the hardware, the uprgadeability, managability, etc.,
 etc.  You may save several hundred dollars on a switch but that does not
add
 up to much if your network is down for several hours because of
reliability
 issues.

 I do not have firsthand experience with the HP line if switches so I am
NOT
 implying that their hardware is unreliable.  All I am saying is that you
 have to consider the big picture.

 fartcatcher wrote in message 94sjci$9uv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hello, we're planning on upgrading our unmanageable switches to
manageable
 ones. I've been looking at the 2924 XL models and they look like they'll
do
 for us, but somone told me that hp switches are cheaper and faster than
 cisco's. Is this true? Does anyone have an opinion/experience with this?
I
 am
 leaning toward Cisco (mainly because I could use the switches for the
 switching exam).
 
 Thanks,
 FC
 
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Re: Cisco switches or HP switches? Which to buy?

2001-01-26 Thread Bruce Seelinger

Remember -  you may not be saving money by buying less expensive hardware
with the same functionality.  You need to factor in the support available,
the reliability of the hardware, the uprgadeability, managability, etc.,
etc.  You may save several hundred dollars on a switch but that does not add
up to much if your network is down for several hours because of reliability
issues.

I do not have firsthand experience with the HP line if switches so I am NOT
implying that their hardware is unreliable.  All I am saying is that you
have to consider the big picture.

fartcatcher wrote in message 94sjci$9uv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Hello, we're planning on upgrading our unmanageable switches to manageable
ones. I've been looking at the 2924 XL models and they look like they'll do
for us, but somone told me that hp switches are cheaper and faster than
cisco's. Is this true? Does anyone have an opinion/experience with this? I
am
leaning toward Cisco (mainly because I could use the switches for the
switching exam).

Thanks,
FC

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-15 Thread John Kaberna

Well last time I checked this was a study group.  And Cisco might care for
their tests.  So, it might be a good idea to know the difference.  Its not
that hard.  I believe 4000 and up run switch IOS and everything below that
is router type IOS.

John

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: cisco switches


 Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying
 that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not
 intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing,
and
 he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel
 comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the
 test! Just a thought

 Priscilla

 At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote:
 Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just
a
 thought.
 
 
 Neil
 
 
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   who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find
out
   which command set you are using.
   If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
   I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of
study
 'm
   not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
   Duck
   
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  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
 the others?



 Jason


 

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-14 Thread Jonathan Hays

Test taking skills and real-world skills sometimes overlap and are
related but not always. I've met scores of people who are excellent at
taking and passing tests of any kind, but have spent most of their lives
in a classroom and have little high-pressure real-world experience. 

In that light, I tend to regard someone who has passed a computer-based
test as someone who has the basics of a subject memorized, which is
often the first step in an apprenticeship. However, there are many
people who have lots of hands-on experience who can't ace a CCNP/CCDP
test because they aren't good at tests or haven't studied the test
material (very little of which you really need to have memorized in the
real-world to do your job). I passed all those CCNP and CCDP tests a
couple of years ago and remain somewhat disgusted about how much useless
nonsense I had to memorize. On a daily basis I would say I use less than
10% of the test material in my job as a network engineer.

Jonathan

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
 Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying
 that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not
 intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing, and
 he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel
 comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the
 test! Just a thought
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote:
 Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just a
 thought.
 
 
 Neil
 
 
 ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out
   which command set you are using.
   If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
   I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study
 'm
   not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
   Duck
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches


 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
 the others?



 Jason
 
 
 
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RE: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Bellanca Smythe

I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him troubleshoot 
his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group dislikes most - a paper network 
engineer.

He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If you're into 
supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches
 
 
 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  hi all,
 
 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about 
 the others?
 
 
 
 Jason
  
 
 Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past 
 couple months 
 that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"   ;)
 
 To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and 
 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based 
 commands start at 
 the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 
 and up...I may 
 be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)
 
 Hope I helped...
 
 Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
 A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
 
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 it is not a 
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RE: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Casey Fahey


I disagree.  From what I have seen Jason is 'learning the ropes' in an 
organized and focused manner.  IMO, he asks good questions and typically 
only after researching and reaching an impasse, this time being an 
exception.

He is also one of the more active posters on the list in the time I have 
been subscribed.  I have benefited from many of these threads.

That said, the question you are responding to could be answered with a 
polite link to www.cisco.com .

Casey

From: "Bellanca Smythe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Bellanca Smythe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: cisco switches
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:34:51 -0600

I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him 
troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group 
dislikes most - a paper network engineer.

He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If you're 
into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: cisco switches
 
 
  In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
   hi all,
 
  Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
  the others?
 
 
 
  Jason
   
 
  Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
  couple months
  that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"   
;)
 
  To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and
  2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
  commands start at
  the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
  and up...I may
  be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)
 
  Hope I helped...
 
  Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
  A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
 
  "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice;
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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out
which command set you are using.
If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study 'm
not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Bellanca Smythe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM
Subject: RE: cisco switches


 I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him
troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group dislikes
most - a paper network engineer.

 He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If
you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: cisco switches
 
 
  In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
   hi all,
 
  Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
  the others?
 
 
 
  Jason
   
 
  Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
  couple months
  that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"
;)
 
  To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and
  2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
  commands start at
  the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
  and up...I may
  be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)
 
  Hope I helped...
 
  Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
  A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
 
  "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice;
  it is not a
  thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."
 
 
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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Neil Schneider

Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just a
thought.


Neil


""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find out
 which command set you are using.
 If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
 I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study
'm
 not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
 Duck
 - Original Message -
 From: Bellanca Smythe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM
 Subject: RE: cisco switches


  I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him
 troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
dislikes
 most - a paper network engineer.
 
  He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If
 you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: cisco switches
  
  
   In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
hi all,
  
   Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
   the others?
  
  
  
   Jason

  
   Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
   couple months
   that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"
 ;)
  
   To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820
and
   2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
   commands start at
   the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
   and up...I may
   be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)
  
   Hope I helped...
  
   Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
   A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
  
   "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice;
   it is not a
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RE: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread dsilva

/
Jason is no average dummy.  He's got a real live database providing support to 
him.  I'll bet his boss thinks he's a guru.  He'll probably get his H-1B 
renewed.
\



Quoting Bellanca Smythe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him
 troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
 dislikes most - a paper network engineer.
 
 He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If you're
 into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: cisco switches
  
  
  In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
   hi all,
  
  Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about 
  the others?
  
  
  
  Jason
   
  
  Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past 
  couple months 
  that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"   ;)
  
  To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and 
  2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based 
  commands start at 
  the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 
  and up...I may 
  be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)
  
  Hope I helped...
  
  Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
  A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
  
  "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; 
  it is not a 
  thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."

  
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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread NeoLink2000

Thank you for saying that for me!!! ;)  I almost forgot about him. I studied a week 
less than him and got an OK 803 on Monday... Attitude counts!!!

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread NeoLink2000

Thank you for saying that for me!!! ;)  I almost forgot about him. I studied a week 
less than him and got an OK 803 on Monday... Attitude counts!!!

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread J K


dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right 
sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares !



From: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cisco switches
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400

Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just a
thought.


Neil


""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find 
out
  which command set you are using.
  If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
  I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study
'm
  not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
  Duck
  - Original Message -
  From: Bellanca Smythe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM
  Subject: RE: cisco switches
 
 
   I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him
  troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
dislikes
  most - a paper network engineer.
  
   He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If
  you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf 
Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cisco switches
   
   
In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
   
 hi all,
   
Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
the others?
   
   
   
Jason
 
   
Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
couple months
that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"
  ;)
   
To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820
and
2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
commands start at
the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
and up...I may
be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   
;)
   
Hope I helped...
   
Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
   
"Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice;
it is not a
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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Neil Schneider

No,  only 300!

Neil


""J K"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right
 sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares !



 From: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches
 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400
 
 Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just
a
 thought.
 
 
 Neil
 
 
 ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find
 out
   which command set you are using.
   If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
   I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of
study
 'm
   not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
   Duck
   - Original Message -
   From: Bellanca Smythe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM
   Subject: RE: cisco switches
  
  
I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping
him
   troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
 dislikes
   most - a paper network engineer.
   
He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If
   you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.
   
 -Original Message-
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 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
 the others?



 Jason
  

 Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
 couple months
 that could be answered extremely simply by a simple
phrase"RTFM"
   ;)

 To answer this one though since I just took the test...the
1900/2820
 and
 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
 commands start at
 the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
 and up...I may
 be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"
 ;)

 Hope I helped...

 Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
 A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Neil Schneider

True,  assuming that attitude did not carry over into other areas of his
work.

Neil


"Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying
 that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not
 intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing,
and
 he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel
 comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the
 test! Just a thought

 Priscilla

 At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote:
 Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just
a
 thought.
 
 
 Neil
 
 
 ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find
out
   which command set you are using.
   If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
   I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of
study
 'm
   not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
   Duck
   
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  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
 the others?



 Jason


 

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread NeoLink2000

True Percilla, but I would rather hire someone who could actually make the switches do 
what he knows they can. Also, the BCMSN had around 5 or 6 command questions, so it 
wasn't just the CLI that got him...  ;)

P.S. Love your book   ;)

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Ejay Hire

No.

(only 300)


Original Message Follows
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Subject: Re: cisco switches
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:48:31 GMT


dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right
sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares !



From: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cisco switches
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400

Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just a
thought.


Neil


""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find
out
  which command set you are using.
  If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
  I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of study
'm
  not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
  Duck
  - Original Message -
  From: Bellanca Smythe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM
  Subject: RE: cisco switches
 
 
   I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him
  troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
dislikes
  most - a paper network engineer.
  
   He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If
  you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.
  
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Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
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Subject: Re: cisco switches
   
   
In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
   
 hi all,
   
Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
the others?
   
   
   
Jason
 
   
Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
couple months
that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"
  ;)
   
To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820
and
2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
commands start at
the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
and up...I may
be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"
;)
   
Hope I helped...
   
Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread NeoLink2000

And the other 47 was for completing the survey , hahaha

Mark Z...stuff certified...

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

I had the test admin help me with the sign-on process.
Duck
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: cisco switches



 dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right
 sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares !



 From: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches
 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400
 
 Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just
a
 thought.
 
 
 Neil
 
 
 ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find
 out
   which command set you are using.
   If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
   I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of
study
 'm
   not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
   Duck
   - Original Message -
   From: Bellanca Smythe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM
   Subject: RE: cisco switches
  
  
I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping
him
   troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
 dislikes
   most - a paper network engineer.
   
He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If
   you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf
 Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches


 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
 the others?



 Jason
  

 Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
 couple months
 that could be answered extremely simply by a simple
phrase"RTFM"
   ;)

 To answer this one though since I just took the test...the
1900/2820
 and
 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
 commands start at
 the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
 and up...I may
 be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"
 ;)

 Hope I helped...

 Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
 A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

Oh yeah I just remebered I got a 934 on that switching test my finger got
stuck. I'll scan it and post if anyone doubts it.
I know there was a chuckle there, bordered on belly roll.
Bingo priscilla if you know what vlans are and multicasting is a STP is HSRP
is
My mother says: Donald time for dinner
My brother says: yo duck lets eat
My father says: Buddy-Boy don't make me call you again!!
either way i get my belly full cause I understand that concept of dinner.
all those commands work.
what do you think i,m brain dead i wouldn't tell anybody if I got a 347. I'm
not going in there with a Jedi send in a droid.
Pricsilla thanks for coming to the defense of all those that turn it on and
make it work. Looking forward to reading your work, it is on my reading list
and about fourth in the queue. Working on Doyle right now. I'd shoot you a
resume but I got a good ride right now.
I apoligize to the group but I don't think cisco even cares which runs on
which, that's just extraneous stuff that you read in study guides.
If the test is truly adaptive I'd give a question like that a one, and a
question about routing between VLANS or configuring a router for a
dense-mode network a tad higher in the score count.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: cisco switches


 Yes, but in the real world, I like Duck's attitude. Basically he's saying
 that he doesn't need to memorize which switch has IOS. He is not
 intimidated by any switch because they all basically do the same thing,
and
 he has learned enough configuration commands in both command sets to feel
 comfortable. I could see hiring such a person even if he did flunk the
 test! Just a thought

 Priscilla

 At 12:25 PM 9/13/00, Neil Schneider wrote:
 Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just
a
 thought.
 
 
 Neil
 
 
 ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find
out
   which command set you are using.
   If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
   I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of
study
 'm
   not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
   Duck
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches


 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
 the others?



 Jason


 

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

See what I'm talking about. You don't get 300 points. That attitude is not
the good attitude Neil. I was joking you guys are serious you think you get
300 points. No. That is just a scale in the adaptive testing format. You
mean to tell me if you answer 1 question right get a 333 you are 1/3 of the
way to a 1000. Novell pioneered the adaptive testing technique, you people
should read that to get a clear understanding on adaptive testing.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Ejay Hire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: cisco switches


 No.

 (only 300)


 Original Message Follows
 From: "J K" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "J K" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches
 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:48:31 GMT


 dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the right
 sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares !



 From: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches
 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400
 
 Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?  Just
a
 thought.
 
 
 Neil
 
 
 ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:030001c01db7$51db2170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will find
 out
   which command set you are using.
   If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
   I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of
study
 'm
   not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
   Duck
   - Original Message -
   From: Bellanca Smythe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:34 AM
   Subject: RE: cisco switches
  
  
I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping
him
   troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
 dislikes
   most - a paper network engineer.
   
He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If
   you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf
 Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: cisco switches


 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
 the others?



 Jason
  

 Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
 couple months
 that could be answered extremely simply by a simple
phrase"RTFM"
   ;)

 To answer this one though since I just took the test...the
1900/2820
 and
 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
 commands start at
 the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
 and up...I may
 be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"
 ;)

 Hope I helped...

 Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
 A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A

 "Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice;
 it is not a
 thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."


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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Neil Schneider

Yes,  the scale on the cisco exams is 300-1000, a 700 point range.

Neil


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039001c01de7$aab4cb40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:039001c01de7$aab4cb40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 See what I'm talking about. You don't get 300 points. That attitude is not
 the good attitude Neil. I was joking you guys are serious you think you
get
 300 points. No. That is just a scale in the adaptive testing format. You
 mean to tell me if you answer 1 question right get a 333 you are 1/3 of
the
 way to a 1000. Novell pioneered the adaptive testing technique, you people
 should read that to get a clear understanding on adaptive testing.
 Duck
 - Original Message -
 From: Ejay Hire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:28 AM
 Subject: Re: cisco switches


  No.
 
  (only 300)
 
 
  Original Message Follows
  From: "J K" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "J K" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: cisco switches
  Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:48:31 GMT
 
 
  dont you get 400 for typing your ssn in correcly and sitting in the
right
  sylvan seat . Ah Who Cares !
 
 
 
  From: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "Neil Schneider" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: cisco switches
  Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:54 -0400
  
  Possibly your "who cares!" attitute and your 347 score are related?
Just
 a
  thought.
  
  
  Neil
  
  
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who cares!!!  when you console, or telnet, or tenlet in you will
find
  out
which command set you are using.
If you know what a switch can do you should be allright.
I just took the switching test and scored a 347 after six weeks of
 study
  'm
not too depressed but I got to get back to reading.
Duck
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Subject: RE: cisco switches
   
   
 I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping
 him
troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
  dislikes
most - a paper network engineer.

 He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.
If
you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.

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  In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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   hi all,
 
  Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about
  the others?
 
 
 
  Jason
   
 
  Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past
  couple months
  that could be answered extremely simply by a simple
 phrase"RTFM"
;)
 
  To answer this one though since I just took the test...the
 1900/2820
  and
  2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based
  commands start at
  the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000
  and up...I may
  be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"
  ;)
 
  Hope I helped...
 
  Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
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RE: cisco switches

2000-09-13 Thread Yee, Jason

hi brian 


Thanks for the explanation to the group and I hope you guys understand.
Anyway thanks for all your help in one way or another

Jason

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thats not really the vibe I get.

He is studying for CCNP and half way there.  I feel he is probably a
little impatient, and asks here instead of referencing, no matter how
simple the question..that seems to piss some off.

I feel his employer has tasked him with "make this work" as an excecise,
probably not production equipment, and then he comes here when he has
trouble.  He is lucky to have a job to play with this stuff that alot of
you don't have..hell that in itself should be inspiration.

I don't dislike paper network engineers so long as they don't front.  If
you study hard, pass some tests, and no doubt learn a hell of
alot...then you have done goodputting that to acutal use will
be challenging but you have completed step one at least.

Brian

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Bellanca Smythe wrote:

 I'm surprised Jason is getting so many people on this list helping him
 troubleshoot his day to day job. Jason appears to be what the group
 dislikes most - a paper network engineer.
 
 He's using the group to do all his consulting for him, for free.  If
 you're into supporting that, by all means, keep helping him.
 
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  In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
   hi all,
  
  Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about 
  the others?
  
  
  
  Jason
   
  
  Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past 
  couple months 
  that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"
;)
  
  To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and

  2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based 
  commands start at 
  the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 
  and up...I may 
  be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)
  
  Hope I helped...
  
  Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-12 Thread fmxiao

cat 1900 does not run IOS...
a RSM is needed for all Cat switchs to run IOS, i think
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 hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about the
others?



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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-12 Thread NeoLink2000

In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 hi all,

Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about the others?



Jason
 

Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past couple months 
that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"   ;)

To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and 
2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based commands start at 
the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 and up...I may 
be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)

Hope I helped...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-12 Thread NeoLink2000

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 cat 1900 does not run IOS...
a RSM is needed for all Cat switchs to run IOS, i think
 

Incorrect...the 1900 does in fact have a IOS CLI...and RSM is used for 
multilayer switching in a switch...

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-12 Thread John Kaberna

4000 series switches use 'set commands' as opposed to router IOS.
Otherwise, you are correct in what you said Mark.

John

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 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about the
others?



 Jason
  

 Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past couple
months
 that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"   ;)

 To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and
 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based commands start
at
 the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 and up...I
may
 be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)

 Hope I helped...

 Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
 A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A

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Re: cisco switches

2000-09-12 Thread John Kaberna

RTFM = Read The F#cking Manuals?

LOL

This is a new one to me.

John

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 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  hi all,

 Do all cisco switches run IOS , I know 1900 do , but what about the
others?



 Jason
  

 Hey, you've asked a lot of beginner level questions in the past couple
months
 that could be answered extremely simply by a simple phrase"RTFM"   ;)

 To answer this one though since I just took the test...the 1900/2820 and
 2900XL series switches use the IOS. I believe the Set based commands start
at
 the 4000 series switches. Set based may actually start at 5000 and up...I
may
 be wrong on that...This could all be done by (once again) "RTFM"   ;)

 Hope I helped...

 Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
 A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A

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