RE: coursebooks IP Telephony Support Specialist exams [7:51382]

2002-08-14 Thread Davis, Scott [ISE/RAC]

Tom,

I am doing the same thing for the same reason you are. I am currently
preparing for DQoS and I am using the IP Quality of Service book. It seems
to cover everything, but in my opinion is a bit jumbled. Vegesna covers some
topics seemingly out of order and assumes some knowledge of concepts and
acronyms (of which there are MANY) early in the book that are not covered
until much later or not all. Much of what is in the book is almost word for
word what is on CCO but this puts it all in one place.

Scott

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I'm preparing for the Cisco IP Telephony Support Specialist exams in
parallel
with the CCIE written, as there is an overlap of topics such as Diffserv,
QoS
and multiservice. The three telephony support exams are:

* 9E0-402 Cisco IP Telephony (CIPT)
   Coursebook: Cisco IP Telephony

* 9E0-423 Cisco Voice Over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP (CVOICE)
   Coursebook: Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP

* 9E0-601 Deploying QoS for Enterprise Networks (DQoS)
   Coursebook: ?

The book that looks closest to the DQoS exam is "IP Quality of Service" by
Srinivas Vegesna. I'd appreciate if someone who is studying for the DQoS
exam or
passed it (or the CIPT and CVOICE) would tell me which book they're using to
prepare.

-- TIA, TT




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Re: coursebooks IP Telephony Support Specialist exams [7:51382]

2002-08-14 Thread Tom Scott

Davis, Scott [ISE/RAC] wrote:

> I am doing the same thing for the same reason you are.


Thanks for the reality check. I'm going to order the books today. They'll
give
me and my lab partner something concrete to work with for chapter 11
and 12 of the Bruno book.

-- TT




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Re: coursebooks IP Telephony Support Specialist exams [7:51382]

2002-08-14 Thread

I have a few comments on this.

1) CIPT

At least in my case, the CIPT book wasnt enough 
for me to pass the exam (failed by less than 1%, 
but failed is failed). You may want to look into 
the Cisco Press - Call manager fundamentals book 
for supplementary study.

2) DQOS

The IP Quality of Service book is not sufficient 
for this exam. DQOS is not just about QOS, but 
also about the tools available for deploying it.  
Have a good reread of the Blueprint for the exam 
(and preferably more than a few days before the 
exam - like I did). The information you need to 
know is all available on CCO (Tutorials, overviews, 
demos of the tools), but you have to do some
searching.

In terms of covering CCIE material you may want 
to look at the MCAST+QOS exam blueprint.  This 
has significantly more core QOS material in the 
blueprint than DQOS. (in my opinion)

Regards

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CCIP, CCNP, etc

PS. I really should get around to retaking the CIPT exam.
PPS. YMMV

Tom Scott wrote:
> 
> I'm preparing for the Cisco IP Telephony Support Specialist exams in
parallel
> with the CCIE written, as there is an overlap of topics such as Diffserv,
QoS
> and multiservice. The three telephony support exams are:
> 
> * 9E0-402 Cisco IP Telephony (CIPT)
>Coursebook: Cisco IP Telephony
> 
> * 9E0-423 Cisco Voice Over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP (CVOICE)
>Coursebook: Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP
> 
> * 9E0-601 Deploying QoS for Enterprise Networks (DQoS)
>Coursebook: ?
> 
> The book that looks closest to the DQoS exam is "IP Quality of Service" by
> Srinivas Vegesna. I'd appreciate if someone who is studying for the DQoS
> exam or
> passed it (or the CIPT and CVOICE) would tell me which book they're using
to
> prepare.
> 
> -- TIA, TT




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Re: coursebooks IP Telephony Support Specialist exams [7:51382]

2002-08-14 Thread Tom Scott

Peter Walker : [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], TISCA wrote:

> The IP Quality of Service book is not sufficient 
> for this exam. DQOS is not just about QOS, but 
> also about the tools available for deploying it.  
> Have a good reread of the Blueprint for the exam 
> (and preferably more than a few days before the 
> exam - like I did). The information you need to 
> know is all available on CCO (Tutorials, overviews, 
> demos of the tools), but you have to do some
> searching.


Good advice. If you have a list of the URLs, please post. I'll also post in a
couple of days (this weekend) after I look aroudn.

Regarding the tools, I saw this list on the DQOS Blueprint:

* QoS Device Manager
* QoS Policy Manager
* Cisco Service Assurance Agent
* IPM
* SMS

Are there others you'd recommend?


One more question (probably should start a new thread but what the heck):
Have you or anyone else "turned the corner" from IP telephony to full-blown
multimedia / multiservice or even just to videoconferencing? What does it
take
to add even just one more service, specifically videoconferencing, to one's
bag
of skills after learning CIPT, CVOICE and DQOS material? And the big
question,
Are the tools and application endsystems for video going to be expensive?

-- TIA, TT




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Re: coursebooks IP Telephony Support Specialist exams [7:51382]

2002-08-15 Thread

Hmmm, why does groupstudy mangle my address. All the other lists I am on
handle this correctly.

It goes out correctly formatted (and rfc compliant) but the groupstudy
mailer software insists on interpretting the stuff inside the quotes.

> From: "Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CCNP, CCIP, TISCA" 


"\"\"Peter Walker : CISSP"@groupstudy.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Re: coursebooks IP Telephony Support Specialist exams [7:51382]

2002-08-15 Thread

Tom Scott wrote:
> 
> Peter Walker : [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], TISCA wrote:
> 
> > The IP Quality of Service book is not sufficient
> > for this exam. DQOS is not just about QOS, but
> > also about the tools available for deploying it.
> > Have a good reread of the Blueprint for the exam
> > (and preferably more than a few days before the
> > exam - like I did). The information you need to
> > know is all available on CCO (Tutorials, overviews,
> > demos of the tools), but you have to do some
> > searching.
> 
> Good advice. If you have a list of the URLs, please post. I'll also post
in a
> couple of days (this weekend) after I look aroudn.

Sorry, but since taking the exam I have moved from the US to the UK, and
my usual PC is (hopefully) on a ship somewhere between california and
the UK.

> 
> Regarding the tools, I saw this list on the DQOS Blueprint:
> 
> * QoS Device Manager
> * QoS Policy Manager
> * Cisco Service Assurance Agent
> * IPM
> * SMS

That sounds about right.

> 
> Are there others you'd recommend?

I dont recall any others.

> 
> One more question (probably should start a new thread but what the heck):
> Have you or anyone else "turned the corner" from IP telephony to full-blown
> multimedia / multiservice or even just to videoconferencing? What does it
> take
> to add even just one more service, specifically videoconferencing, to one's
> bag
> of skills after learning CIPT, CVOICE and DQOS material? And the big
> question,
> Are the tools and application endsystems for video going to be expensive?
> 
No I havent.  I occasionally look to see if the C&S (Voice) CCIE
blueprint is published as I might take a shot at that when it is, but
other than that I will be concentrating on my CCIE (security) lab study
once my lab stuff arrives here and I figure out how to afford an attempt
at the lab ($1500 is a lot of money when you are unemployed - actually
it is a lot of money when you are employed). I hope to find an employer
that will pay for the lab exam, but we will have to wait and see.

Regards

Peter




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