Re: new CIT [7:47777]

2002-07-02 Thread Tom Scott

Historically, T1 and E1 are different from HDSL. However, they now use
HDSL in the US to provide 24-channel circuits on a single pair of
copper, as compared to the two pairs used for the traditional T1. I
wouldn't be surprised if a similar situation occurs with HDSL and E1.
Unfortunately, it's been four years since I worked with loop
technologies, so I can't guarantee accuracy. Anyone else out there
who's currently supporting HDSL?

-- TT


Mark Odette II wrote:

 Ashir, I could be wrong, but I think an E1 circuit and an HDSL circuit
 are two different things!
[snip]



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 guide me which is the best hdsl modems to carry E1 on a single copper
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RE: new CIT [7:47777]

2002-07-02 Thread Dan Penn

At my old job we had pairgain HDSL stuff.  They would do anything from
64k on up to 4096 (2 loops on 2 pair).  So, yes, you could have 24 ds0's
on one pair of copper.

Dan

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Tom Scott
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Historically, T1 and E1 are different from HDSL. However, they now use
HDSL in the US to provide 24-channel circuits on a single pair of
copper, as compared to the two pairs used for the traditional T1. I
wouldn't be surprised if a similar situation occurs with HDSL and E1.
Unfortunately, it's been four years since I worked with loop
technologies, so I can't guarantee accuracy. Anyone else out there
who's currently supporting HDSL?

-- TT


Mark Odette II wrote:

 Ashir, I could be wrong, but I think an E1 circuit and an HDSL circuit
 are two different things!
[snip]



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 guide me which is the best hdsl modems to carry E1 on a single copper
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Re: new CIT [7:47777]

2002-07-01 Thread Ashir73 \(CubeXSPlanet.com\)

guide me which is the best hdsl modems to carry E1 on a single copper
pair

Kind Regards,
Ashir

- Original Message -
From: Mark Odette II 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: new CIT [7:4]


 They haven't reduced them by any means

 I took the exam and unfortunately failed this last Saturday.  I'll be
 retaking it on Tuesday.

 I failed because of several instances of the questions being worded
 funny... and I didn't realize until I was hitting the  button that
 I had just chosen the wrong answer, while knowing at the same time that
 I just realized what the correct answer was.  Veryyy frustrating.

 I think if I had taken my time a little more, rather than worrying about
 running out of time, I probably would have done better too.  I walked
 out with 18 minutes left on the clock.  I know for some this probably
 would have been / is a breeze, but I haven't taken cert exams since
 December of last year, so I'm a little rusty on the test taking mode
 of thinking.

 Anyway... without breaking NDA, I can only say that they still ask quite
 a healthy list of questions covering ALL of the topics.  Nothing was hit
 on more than others.  For someone who doesn't work with Appletalk and
 Novell regularly... it can be a real trial on the nerves. :(

 Good luck on your exam!

 Mark
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 Mohammed Saro
 Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 2:03 AM
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 Subject: new CIT [7:4]

 What about 640-606 any one knows what happens to the
 AppleTalk,tokenring,
 FDDI, and IPX questions?
 did they reduce them or what ?



 Best Regards,
 Mohamed Saro
 Network Division Manager
 T.E. DATA
 Tel: +20-10-1663531
 Tel: +20- 2 -7494025
 Ext:1102




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RE: new CIT [7:47777]

2002-07-01 Thread Mark Odette II

Ashir, I could be wrong, but I think an E1 circuit and an HDSL circuit
are two different things!

To support HDSL circuit though, a quick search on CCO for HDSL turned up
the Cisco 1401 and 1417 xDSL Routers.  The 1401 has an ATM25 jack-
which I think is just a 6-pin telco phone-jack connector, and the 1417
has a standard RJ-11 jack.

I could be wrong on this too, but I think these two units take their
telco service off of a single copper pair... or at least that's what the
unit with the RJ-11 jack indicates.

Cheers,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Ashir73 (CubeXSPlanet.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:18 AM
To: Mark Odette II; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: new CIT [7:4]

guide me which is the best hdsl modems to carry E1 on a single copper
pair

Kind Regards,
Ashir

- Original Message -
From: Mark Odette II 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: new CIT [7:4]


 They haven't reduced them by any means

 I took the exam and unfortunately failed this last Saturday.  I'll be
 retaking it on Tuesday.

 I failed because of several instances of the questions being worded
 funny... and I didn't realize until I was hitting the  button that
 I had just chosen the wrong answer, while knowing at the same time
that
 I just realized what the correct answer was.  Veryyy frustrating.

 I think if I had taken my time a little more, rather than worrying
about
 running out of time, I probably would have done better too.  I walked
 out with 18 minutes left on the clock.  I know for some this probably
 would have been / is a breeze, but I haven't taken cert exams since
 December of last year, so I'm a little rusty on the test taking mode
 of thinking.

 Anyway... without breaking NDA, I can only say that they still ask
quite
 a healthy list of questions covering ALL of the topics.  Nothing was
hit
 on more than others.  For someone who doesn't work with Appletalk and
 Novell regularly... it can be a real trial on the nerves. :(

 Good luck on your exam!

 Mark
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
 Mohammed Saro
 Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 2:03 AM
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 Subject: new CIT [7:4]

 What about 640-606 any one knows what happens to the
 AppleTalk,tokenring,
 FDDI, and IPX questions?
 did they reduce them or what ?



 Best Regards,
 Mohamed Saro
 Network Division Manager
 T.E. DATA
 Tel: +20-10-1663531
 Tel: +20- 2 -7494025
 Ext:1102




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RE: new CIT [7:47777]

2002-06-30 Thread Dan Penn

I'm taking it this Wednesday, but if you check out the exam outlines for
506 and 606 from CCO they are the EXACT same word for word.

Dan

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From my understanding, they have not.  I will be taking it in 2 weeks.

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 What about 640-606 any one knows what happens to the
AppleTalk,tokenring,
 FDDI, and IPX questions?
 did they reduce them or what ?



 Best Regards,
 Mohamed Saro
 Network Division Manager
 T.E. DATA
 Tel: +20-10-1663531
 Tel: +20- 2 -7494025
 Ext:1102




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Re: new CIT [7:47777]

2002-06-30 Thread Tom Scott

Dan Penn wrote:

 I'm taking it this Wednesday, but if you check out the exam outlines for
 506 and 606 from CCO they are the EXACT same word for word.

I'm taking it Friday or the week after. I hope you'll post a review 
after you take it Wednesday. The Big Question I have is: Are they 
testing on routing? We had three in-depth routing chapters (EIGRP, 
OSPF, BGP) in the troubleshooting part of the Cisco Academy (Semester 
8) but there doesn't appear to anything like that in the description 
of the 640-606 test other than the issues one would be expected with 
TCP/IP, IPX and AppleTalk.

Good luck!

-- TT




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RE: new CIT [7:47777]

2002-06-30 Thread Dan Penn

Well, per the new NDA, I won't really be able to say much about it after
words.  But I know this much, basic routing functions are
testable...stuff like what can go wrong, network statements etc.

Dan

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Dan Penn wrote:

 I'm taking it this Wednesday, but if you check out the exam outlines
for
 506 and 606 from CCO they are the EXACT same word for word.

I'm taking it Friday or the week after. I hope you'll post a review 
after you take it Wednesday. The Big Question I have is: Are they 
testing on routing? We had three in-depth routing chapters (EIGRP, 
OSPF, BGP) in the troubleshooting part of the Cisco Academy (Semester 
8) but there doesn't appear to anything like that in the description 
of the 640-606 test other than the issues one would be expected with 
TCP/IP, IPX and AppleTalk.

Good luck!

-- TT




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RE: new CIT [7:47777]

2002-06-30 Thread Mark Odette II

They haven't reduced them by any means

I took the exam and unfortunately failed this last Saturday.  I'll be
retaking it on Tuesday.

I failed because of several instances of the questions being worded
funny... and I didn't realize until I was hitting the  button that
I had just chosen the wrong answer, while knowing at the same time that
I just realized what the correct answer was.  Veryyy frustrating.

I think if I had taken my time a little more, rather than worrying about
running out of time, I probably would have done better too.  I walked
out with 18 minutes left on the clock.  I know for some this probably
would have been / is a breeze, but I haven't taken cert exams since
December of last year, so I'm a little rusty on the test taking mode
of thinking.

Anyway... without breaking NDA, I can only say that they still ask quite
a healthy list of questions covering ALL of the topics.  Nothing was hit
on more than others.  For someone who doesn't work with Appletalk and
Novell regularly... it can be a real trial on the nerves. :(

Good luck on your exam!

Mark
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Mohammed Saro
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 2:03 AM
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Subject: new CIT [7:4]

What about 640-606 any one knows what happens to the
AppleTalk,tokenring,
FDDI, and IPX questions?
did they reduce them or what ?



Best Regards,
Mohamed Saro
Network Division Manager
T.E. DATA
Tel: +20-10-1663531
Tel: +20- 2 -7494025
Ext:1102




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