Re: Routing protocol

2000-11-09 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

I dont think the original question made any sense.
Duck
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Subject: Re: Routing protocol


 A bunch of different concepts are getting mixed up in this discussion.
 Here's a quick note to clear the air.

 A routing protocol learns the path(s) to remote networks. Examples are
 OSPF, RIP, EIGRP, BGP, RTMP, AURP, Novell RIP and NLSP, etc.

 EIGRP is a routing protocol that can handle routing for IP, AppleTalk, and
 IPX. That makes it unique. It has a routing engine that can be used by
each
 of these protocol suites, as well as separate mechanisms to deal with
 unique issues for each suite.

 This multiprotocol feature of EIGRP has nothing to do with redistribution.
 Redistribution is the process whereby a routing protocol can learn routes
 from some other routing protocol. For example, you can redistribute RIP
 routes into OSPF.

 I don't know if this is what the responder had in mind, but by default,
the
 Cisco IOS software redistributes AppleTalk RTMP routes into AppleTalk
 EIGRP, and vice versa. By default, the Cisco IOS software redistributes
IPX
 RIP routes into EIGRP, and vice versa. These are nice features for
 companies that still run RTMP and IPX RIP on their LANs but have migrated
 to the more efficient EIGRP on WANs.

 Cisco made up the silly term "routed protocol," and they use it somewhat
 inconsistently. But in general, it means the network-layer protocol that
 carries the payload that gets routed through the network. Examples include
 IP, DDP, IPX, etc.

 A router has two jobs:

 1) Participating in a routing protocol to learn paths
 2) Forwarding routed traffic (This is sometimes called switching, just to
 confuse matters)

 OK, that's enough for now.

 Priscilla


 At 03:08 PM 11/8/00, lawrence sculark wrote:
 look up "redistribution"..it will set you on the right path...lawrence
 
 
 From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Routing protocol
 
 I don't think this make sense.
 Routing protocols are used to maintain routing tables.
 Routed protocols are used for addressing and accessing stations on a
network.
 The process of routing is the ability of a router being able to receive
a
 packet, check the destination in the packet, look for a destination
 network in the route table and switch the packet to the appropriate
 interface that can reach the destination network.
 So routing is the process of:
 1. declaring a destination
 2. finding the destinaton
 3. switching the packet to an interface on the path to the destination.
 Many protocols are involved in this process from ARP to BGP or anything
 in between.
 Duck
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Can anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other
  protocols
Is it EIGRP or BGP
Thanks
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Re: Routing protocol

2000-11-09 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

You can redistribute static routes, which protocol do static routes use
Duck
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 look up "redistribution"..it will set you on the right path...lawrence


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 I don't think this make sense.
 Routing protocols are used to maintain routing tables.
 Routed protocols are used for addressing and accessing stations on a
 network.
 The process of routing is the ability of a router being able to receive a
 packet, check the destination in the packet, look for a destination
network
 in the route table and switch the packet to the appropriate interface
that
 can reach the destination network.
 So routing is the process of:
 1. declaring a destination
 2. finding the destinaton
 3. switching the packet to an interface on the path to the destination.
 Many protocols are involved in this process from ARP to BGP or anything
in
 between.
 Duck
AVI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Can anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other
 protocols
Is it EIGRP or BGP
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Re: Routing protocol

2000-11-08 Thread lawrence sculark

look up "redistribution"..it will set you on the right path...lawrence


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I don't think this make sense.
Routing protocols are used to maintain routing tables.
Routed protocols are used for addressing and accessing stations on a 
network.
The process of routing is the ability of a router being able to receive a 
packet, check the destination in the packet, look for a destination network 
in the route table and switch the packet to the appropriate interface that 
can reach the destination network.
So routing is the process of:
1. declaring a destination
2. finding the destinaton
3. switching the packet to an interface on the path to the destination.
Many protocols are involved in this process from ARP to BGP or anything in 
between.
Duck
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   Can anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other 
protocols
   Is it EIGRP or BGP
   Thanks
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Re: Routing protocol

2000-11-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

A bunch of different concepts are getting mixed up in this discussion. 
Here's a quick note to clear the air.

A routing protocol learns the path(s) to remote networks. Examples are 
OSPF, RIP, EIGRP, BGP, RTMP, AURP, Novell RIP and NLSP, etc.

EIGRP is a routing protocol that can handle routing for IP, AppleTalk, and 
IPX. That makes it unique. It has a routing engine that can be used by each 
of these protocol suites, as well as separate mechanisms to deal with 
unique issues for each suite.

This multiprotocol feature of EIGRP has nothing to do with redistribution. 
Redistribution is the process whereby a routing protocol can learn routes 
from some other routing protocol. For example, you can redistribute RIP 
routes into OSPF.

I don't know if this is what the responder had in mind, but by default, the 
Cisco IOS software redistributes AppleTalk RTMP routes into AppleTalk 
EIGRP, and vice versa. By default, the Cisco IOS software redistributes IPX 
RIP routes into EIGRP, and vice versa. These are nice features for 
companies that still run RTMP and IPX RIP on their LANs but have migrated 
to the more efficient EIGRP on WANs.

Cisco made up the silly term "routed protocol," and they use it somewhat 
inconsistently. But in general, it means the network-layer protocol that 
carries the payload that gets routed through the network. Examples include 
IP, DDP, IPX, etc.

A router has two jobs:

1) Participating in a routing protocol to learn paths
2) Forwarding routed traffic (This is sometimes called switching, just to 
confuse matters)

OK, that's enough for now.

Priscilla


At 03:08 PM 11/8/00, lawrence sculark wrote:
look up "redistribution"..it will set you on the right path...lawrence


From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Routing protocol

I don't think this make sense.
Routing protocols are used to maintain routing tables.
Routed protocols are used for addressing and accessing stations on a network.
The process of routing is the ability of a router being able to receive a 
packet, check the destination in the packet, look for a destination 
network in the route table and switch the packet to the appropriate 
interface that can reach the destination network.
So routing is the process of:
1. declaring a destination
2. finding the destinaton
3. switching the packet to an interface on the path to the destination.
Many protocols are involved in this process from ARP to BGP or anything 
in between.
Duck
   AVI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Can anyone tell me, Which is the only routing protocol to route other 
 protocols
   Is it EIGRP or BGP
   Thanks
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Re: Routing protocol timers

2000-10-25 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

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Subject: Routing protocol timers


 Hello Friends

 Could someone explain to me what happens when the invalid timer expires.
 And what happens to the route between the invalid timer and flush time.
 For eg in IGRP what happens to the route between  270 and 630 seconds
 Thanks

 SV

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Re: Routing Protocol Load-Sharing

2000-07-26 Thread Geert Hampe

Hi Evan,

Ospf is like 6 equal cost paths and EIGRP is like 4 equal or unequal cost
paths.  EIGRP is more flexible to have unequal load balancing.

Cu
Geert Hampe
CCNP+Voice+ATM CCDP

Evan You [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 What is the maximum number of equal-path equal-cost load sharing /
balancing
 will OSPF or EIGRP do?

 Basically, I have 12 T1 circuits that I am thinking of load-sharing
between
 two Data Centers. I am either thinking of using a Larscom Orion 4000 IMUX
to
 bundle the T1 into two groups and out into HSSI interfaces of the 7000
 routers, or just simply hook-up all 12 T1 directly to the routers and have
 them load-share the links via routing protocols. But I am not certain if
the
 second option will work. I know that the routers will be taxed more and
the
 network overall will have several more routes to handle, but the advantage
 is that each link is completely redundant from each other. But more than
 anything, I am not sure if any routing protocols will handle 12
 equal-path/equal-cost load-sharing and balancing.

 Thanks,

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Re: Routing Protocol Load-Sharing

2000-07-26 Thread Brian

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Evan You wrote:

 What is the maximum number of equal-path equal-cost load sharing / balancing
 will OSPF or EIGRP do?

6 i believe, and I believe 4 is the default.

Brian


 
 Basically, I have 12 T1 circuits that I am thinking of load-sharing between
 two Data Centers. I am either thinking of using a Larscom Orion 4000 IMUX to
 bundle the T1 into two groups and out into HSSI interfaces of the 7000
 routers, or just simply hook-up all 12 T1 directly to the routers and have
 them load-share the links via routing protocols. But I am not certain if the
 second option will work. I know that the routers will be taxed more and the
 network overall will have several more routes to handle, but the advantage
 is that each link is completely redundant from each other. But more than
 anything, I am not sure if any routing protocols will handle 12
 equal-path/equal-cost load-sharing and balancing.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Evan You - CCNA
 
 
 
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RE: Routing Protocol Load-Sharing

2000-07-26 Thread Evan You

Chuck,

Thanks for the input.  I agree with your logic. But part of the problem is
that these are International circuits going from one country to another. And
believe it or not, most of the time it's much cheaper to bundle several E1s
or T1s together instead of getting a fractional T3 or E3 internationally (I
know, I work for WorldCom).

- Evan

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From:   Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, July 26, 2000 11:02 AM
To: Cisco Mail List; Evan You
Subject:RE: Routing Protocol Load-Sharing

Evan, at some point you might want to look beyond single circuits. An
alternative might be to aggregate your bandwidth by having your carrier
terminate it as ATM, and populate your routers with IMA cards to give you
bandwidth. Fractional DS3 should be a lot less expensive and gives you a lot
more room to grow. As you have now discovered, adding T-1s to solve
bandwidth problems has its limits. The fact that you have 12 point to points
between two sites tells me 1) that it's past time to look at this with fresh
eyes,  2) your company must have too much money, and 3) your telco really
loves you  :-

OSPF is 4 equal cost paths. EIRP is 6, and the paths can be of unequal cost.

Where are you located? Contact me off line.

Chuck



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Re: Routing Protocol Load-Sharing

2000-07-26 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

I believe the no# is 6
Duck
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From: Evan You [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:48 AM
Subject: Routing Protocol Load-Sharing


 What is the maximum number of equal-path equal-cost load sharing /
balancing
 will OSPF or EIGRP do?

 Basically, I have 12 T1 circuits that I am thinking of load-sharing
between
 two Data Centers. I am either thinking of using a Larscom Orion 4000 IMUX
to
 bundle the T1 into two groups and out into HSSI interfaces of the 7000
 routers, or just simply hook-up all 12 T1 directly to the routers and have
 them load-share the links via routing protocols. But I am not certain if
the
 second option will work. I know that the routers will be taxed more and
the
 network overall will have several more routes to handle, but the advantage
 is that each link is completely redundant from each other. But more than
 anything, I am not sure if any routing protocols will handle 12
 equal-path/equal-cost load-sharing and balancing.

 Thanks,

 Evan You - CCNA



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RE: routing protocol

2000-05-29 Thread Buddy Venne

fanj -
in a short summary:
Name   Protocol Number   Port
BGP 6(TCP)179
IGRP9 n/a (it _is_ prot 9)
RIP  17(UDP)   520
EIGRP  88   n/a (it _is_ prot 88)
OSPF   89   n/a (it _is_ prot 89)
 
hth

Buddy Venne

 

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Try  www.netsys.com http://www.netsys.com go to technical library .
You can find TCP/UDP port numbers by protocol
 
 
 
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Subject: routing protocol

can someone tell me which port the routing protocols are using ? where can I
get the details of all the protocols ? Thanks in advance

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RE: routing protocol

2000-05-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu



RFC 
1700 is a good place to start

ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1700.txt

you 
might want to bookmark the following link. you will be referring to it often 
during your studies going forward.

http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html

HTH 

Chuck

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  can someone tell me which port the routing 
  protocols are using ? where can I get the details of all the protocols ? 
  Thanks in advance


Re: routing protocol

2000-05-28 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Some routing protocols run right on top of IP, some on top of UDP, some on top
of TCP, and IS-IS runs directly over the data-link layer, so researching the
answer is a bit difficult.

Your best bet is to go to the RFC for the protocol of interest or RFC 1700,
the
Assigned Numbers RFC, as Chuck L. said. Also, check out books by Doyle,
Berkowitz, etc. Also, get yourself a Sniffer! ;-)

With that said, here's what I recall:

BGP uses TCP port 179
RIP uses UDP port 520

IGRP uses IP protocol type 88 
OSPF uses IP protocol type 89

IS-IS uses SAP FE

Priscilla



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 can someone tell me which port the routing protocols are using ? where can I
 get the details of all the protocols ? Thanks in advance




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Re: routing protocol

2000-05-28 Thread Jorge Rodriguez



Try www.netsys.com go to 
technical library .
You can find TCP/UDP port numbers by 
protocol



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  can someone tell me which port the routing 
  protocols are using ? where can I get the details of all the protocols ? 
  Thanks in advance