RE: DHCP and subnets

2000-07-17 Thread Dale E. Drummond

The DHCP server knows what scope to pick the ip address from by looking at
the GIADDR field in the DHCP packet.  When the router helpers a DHCP
request to the DHCP server it populates the GIADDR address with the
primary ip address of the router interface that the DHCP broadcast request
was received on.  When the DHCP server receives the request it looks at
the GIADDR field then looks to see if it has a scope that matches the ip
subnet of the address in the GIADDR fields.  If it does it assigns an ip
from that subnet. 

Hope this helps. 

Dale



Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:35:20 -0500
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 My 2c on this .

When the DHCP broadcasts crosses the router ,it carries that routers mask
and ip info across to the dhcp server ( assuming helpder is there)

the DHCP server on seeing that the reqest came from that particular subnet
issues an ip from a scope ...U could configure multiple scopes and combine
them into one superscope to do this. Hope this helps.

Cheers,Padhu

-Original Message-
From: whatshakin
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Sent: 7/16/00 12:11 PM
Subject: DHCP and subnets

Hello folks,
Please clarify this for me.  
 
Hypothetical example: Campus LAN with multiple buildings.  Each building
on its own vlan and with its own subnet addressing scheme. All buildings
tied in to a Catalyst 5500 which has RSP doing all the inter-vlan
routing.  Data center using a single DHCP server with multiple scopes
(one scope per vlan/subnet etc) to supply all vlans/subnets with their
respective ip addresses.  I want to understand how the DHCP server knows
how to hand out the correct ip address from the corresponding subnet to
the workstations that request them.  I have come to believe that
initially DHCP servers have no idea whom is requesting an address, they
just hand them out to whoever asks...this is what is confusing.  I
understand that each Vlan needs its own gateway address where the
workstations aim their broadcasts and there an ip helper-address
statement in the RSP for each vlan, but I still don't understand how the
DHCP server knows how to hand out the appropriate address when it has
multiple scopes enabled.
 
TIA for any clarification you can offer.



Dale E Drummond   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://www.pobox.com/~dale/



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Re: DHCP and subnets

2000-07-17 Thread Vern Stitt

If you use a router for DHCP request forwarding using BOOTP IP Helper
Address, the DHCP server will accurately assign IP addresses to the correct
subnets from the correct scopes using the source IP address.

That is unless the request comes from an Ethernet interface has multiple IP
addresses assigned from different logical subnets.  In that case, it seems
to always assign an address from the scope of the lowest numerical IP
network address assigned to that interface.

Vern Stitt
AE, ASE, CCNA, MCSE

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 The DHCP server knows what scope to pick the ip address from by looking at
 the GIADDR field in the DHCP packet.  When the router helpers a DHCP
 request to the DHCP server it populates the GIADDR address with the
 primary ip address of the router interface that the DHCP broadcast request
 was received on.  When the DHCP server receives the request it looks at
 the GIADDR field then looks to see if it has a scope that matches the ip
 subnet of the address in the GIADDR fields.  If it does it assigns an ip
 from that subnet.

 Hope this helps.

 Dale



 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:35:20 -0500
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  My 2c on this .

 When the DHCP broadcasts crosses the router ,it carries that routers mask
 and ip info across to the dhcp server ( assuming helpder is there)

 the DHCP server on seeing that the reqest came from that particular subnet
 issues an ip from a scope ...U could configure multiple scopes and combine
 them into one superscope to do this. Hope this helps.

 Cheers,Padhu

 -Original Message-
 From: whatshakin
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 7/16/00 12:11 PM
 Subject: DHCP and subnets

 Hello folks,
 Please clarify this for me.

 Hypothetical example: Campus LAN with multiple buildings.  Each building
 on its own vlan and with its own subnet addressing scheme. All buildings
 tied in to a Catalyst 5500 which has RSP doing all the inter-vlan
 routing.  Data center using a single DHCP server with multiple scopes
 (one scope per vlan/subnet etc) to supply all vlans/subnets with their
 respective ip addresses.  I want to understand how the DHCP server knows
 how to hand out the correct ip address from the corresponding subnet to
 the workstations that request them.  I have come to believe that
 initially DHCP servers have no idea whom is requesting an address, they
 just hand them out to whoever asks...this is what is confusing.  I
 understand that each Vlan needs its own gateway address where the
 workstations aim their broadcasts and there an ip helper-address
 statement in the RSP for each vlan, but I still don't understand how the
 DHCP server knows how to hand out the appropriate address when it has
 multiple scopes enabled.

 TIA for any clarification you can offer.


 
 Dale E Drummond   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~dale/
 


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RE: DHCP and subnets

2000-07-16 Thread Padhu

 My 2c on this .

When the DHCP broadcasts crosses the router ,it carries that routers mask
and ip info across to the dhcp server ( assuming helpder is there)

the DHCP server on seeing that the reqest came from that particular subnet
issues an ip from a scope ...U could configure multiple scopes and combine
them into one superscope to do this. Hope this helps.

Cheers,Padhu

-Original Message-
From: whatshakin
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 7/16/00 12:11 PM
Subject: DHCP and subnets

Hello folks,
Please clarify this for me.  
 
Hypothetical example: Campus LAN with multiple buildings.  Each building
on its own vlan and with its own subnet addressing scheme. All buildings
tied in to a Catalyst 5500 which has RSP doing all the inter-vlan
routing.  Data center using a single DHCP server with multiple scopes
(one scope per vlan/subnet etc) to supply all vlans/subnets with their
respective ip addresses.  I want to understand how the DHCP server knows
how to hand out the correct ip address from the corresponding subnet to
the workstations that request them.  I have come to believe that
initially DHCP servers have no idea whom is requesting an address, they
just hand them out to whoever asks...this is what is confusing.  I
understand that each Vlan needs its own gateway address where the
workstations aim their broadcasts and there an ip helper-address
statement in the RSP for each vlan, but I still don't understand how the
DHCP server knows how to hand out the appropriate address when it has
multiple scopes enabled.
 
TIA for any clarification you can offer.
 
 
 

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Re: DHCP, and, subnets

2000-07-16 Thread Stephen Lee

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the way I've seen it work is; If you have 
the helper address defined on all the vlans in you RSM then, when the router 
sees a bootp dhcp request from the PC it sends a directed broadcast towards 
the next hop to the helper address. When it gets to the server the packet 
contains the originating subnet and the server then knows what subnet to 
give an address from. It then sends a unicast packet back to the originating 
router and the router then forwards it to the pc via its MAC address.

In reply to:
Hello folks,
Please clarify this for me. =20

Hypothetical example: Campus LAN with multiple buildings.  Each building =
on its own vlan and with its own subnet addressing scheme. All buildings =
tied in to a Catalyst 5500 which has RSP doing all the inter-vlan =
routing.  Data center using a single DHCP server with multiple scopes =
(one scope per vlan/subnet etc) to supply all vlans/subnets with their =
respective ip addresses.  I want to understand how the DHCP server knows =
how to hand out the correct ip address from the corresponding subnet to =
the workstations that request them.  I have come to believe that =
initially DHCP servers have no idea whom is requesting an address, they =
just hand them out to whoever asks...this is what is confusing.  I =
understand that each Vlan needs its own gateway address where the =
workstations aim their broadcasts and there an ip helper-address =
statement in the RSP for each vlan, but I still don't understand how the =
DHCP server knows how to hand out the appropriate address when it has =
multiple scopes enabled.

TIA for any clarification you can offer.



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