Re: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:04 PM + 8/1/03, annlee wrote:
>Actually, Apple used that block as well for local networking.
>
>quote:
>If the host has a Microsoft Windows OS (9x or 2000/XP) or an
>Apple OS, it will fall back to what is called the "auto-configure
>address", which is an address from the 169.254/16 address space
>(this was in accordance with the
>draft-ietf-dhc-ipv4-autoconfig-04.txt, which expired in October,
>1999).


The range finally made it into a DHCP RFC and is IANA reserved.

>The host will check on the network segment for a conflict
>with another host using the same address, up to 10 addresses. The
>client will then check in the background for a DHCP server every
>5 minutes, abandoning the auto-configured address as soon as it
>can obtain one from the server. I have no information at this
>time on the behavior of various Linux clients.
>end quote
>
>from my DNS-DHCP tutorial
>
>Annlee




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Re: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread annlee
Actually, Apple used that block as well for local networking.

quote:
If the host has a Microsoft Windows OS (9x or 2000/XP) or an 
Apple OS, it will fall back to what is called the "auto-configure 
address", which is an address from the 169.254/16 address space 
(this was in accordance with the 
draft-ietf-dhc-ipv4-autoconfig-04.txt, which expired in October, 
1999). The host will check on the network segment for a conflict 
with another host using the same address, up to 10 addresses. The 
client will then check in the background for a DHCP server every 
5 minutes, abandoning the auto-configured address as soon as it 
can obtain one from the server. I have no information at this 
time on the behavior of various Linux clients.
end quote

from my DNS-DHCP tutorial

Annlee

Charles Cthulu Riley wrote:
> Three words
> 
> MY-CROW-SOFF?
> 
> 
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> 
>>[This isn't the usual type of follies question where you have to figure
>>something out. In this case, you either know the answer or you don't. If
> 
> you
> 
>>don't, you can probably figure out how to look it up and it would be good
>>information to have in case you see this in your own network.]
>>
>>Your network uses RFC 1918 private IP address space (10.0.0.0/8) for your
>>addressing. You have a logging access list configured on a LAN interface
> 
> and
> 
>>you begin seeing traffic from devices in the 169.254.0.0/16 subnet
> 
> destined
> 
>>for 169.254.255.255. You don't have any machines configured with addresses
>>in this subnet, so what could it be?
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Re: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread Kevin Wigle
APIPA

leaving for someone else to take further.


- Original Message -
From: "John Neiberger" 
To: 
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Subject: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]


> [This isn't the usual type of follies question where you have to figure
> something out. In this case, you either know the answer or you don't. If
you
> don't, you can probably figure out how to look it up and it would be good
> information to have in case you see this in your own network.]
>
> Your network uses RFC 1918 private IP address space (10.0.0.0/8) for your
> addressing. You have a logging access list configured on a LAN interface
and
> you begin seeing traffic from devices in the 169.254.0.0/16 subnet
destined
> for 169.254.255.255. You don't have any machines configured with addresses
> in this subnet, so what could it be?
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RE: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread Daniel Cotts
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ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3330.txt

> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]
> 
> 
> [This isn't the usual type of follies question where you have 
> to figure
> something out. In this case, you either know the answer or 
> you don't. If you
> don't, you can probably figure out how to look it up and it 
> would be good
> information to have in case you see this in your own network.]
> 
> Your network uses RFC 1918 private IP address space 
> (10.0.0.0/8) for your
> addressing. You have a logging access list configured on a 
> LAN interface and
> you begin seeing traffic from devices in the 169.254.0.0/16 
> subnet destined
> for 169.254.255.255. You don't have any machines configured 
> with addresses
> in this subnet, so what could it be?
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RE: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread John Neiberger
Yes! Daniel mentions the RFC and Kevin Wigle mentioned APIPA, or Automatic
Private IP Addressing. You can find out more about that at:

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/APIPA.html 

This means that Daniel and Kevin get to share the extra credit prize!  

Thanks to all who participated,
John

>>> Daniel Cotts 8/1/03 3:16:24 PM >>>
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ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3330.txt 

> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]
> 
> 
> [This isn't the usual type of follies question where you have 
> to figure
> something out. In this case, you either know the answer or 
> you don't. If you
> don't, you can probably figure out how to look it up and it 
> would be good
> information to have in case you see this in your own network.]
> 
> Your network uses RFC 1918 private IP address space 
> (10.0.0.0/8) for your
> addressing. You have a logging access list configured on a 
> LAN interface and
> you begin seeing traffic from devices in the 169.254.0.0/16 
> subnet destined
> for 169.254.255.255. You don't have any machines configured 
> with addresses
> in this subnet, so what could it be?
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Re: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread John Neiberger
Possibly, but you have to give more detail to win the prize.  :-)  

[Notice: there is no prize associated with this question.  ]

>>> Jason Viera 8/1/03 2:22:32 PM >>>
Bill Gates leaving his mark on your network??
Jason



> [This isn't the usual type of follies question where you have to figure
> something out. In this case, you either know the answer or you don't. If
you
> don't, you can probably figure out how to look it up and it would be good
> information to have in case you see this in your own network.]
>
> Your network uses RFC 1918 private IP address space (10.0.0.0/8) for your
> addressing. You have a logging access list configured on a LAN interface
and
> you begin seeing traffic from devices in the 169.254.0.0/16 subnet
destined
> for 169.254.255.255. You don't have any machines configured with
addresses
> in this subnet, so what could it be?
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Re: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread Jason Viera
Bill Gates leaving his mark on your network??
Jason



> [This isn't the usual type of follies question where you have to figure
> something out. In this case, you either know the answer or you don't. If
you
> don't, you can probably figure out how to look it up and it would be good
> information to have in case you see this in your own network.]
>
> Your network uses RFC 1918 private IP address space (10.0.0.0/8) for your
> addressing. You have a logging access list configured on a LAN interface
and
> you begin seeing traffic from devices in the 169.254.0.0/16 subnet
destined
> for 169.254.255.255. You don't have any machines configured with addresses
> in this subnet, so what could it be?
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Re: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread Charles Cthulu Riley
Three words

MY-CROW-SOFF?


""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> [This isn't the usual type of follies question where you have to figure
> something out. In this case, you either know the answer or you don't. If
you
> don't, you can probably figure out how to look it up and it would be good
> information to have in case you see this in your own network.]
>
> Your network uses RFC 1918 private IP address space (10.0.0.0/8) for your
> addressing. You have a logging access list configured on a LAN interface
and
> you begin seeing traffic from devices in the 169.254.0.0/16 subnet
destined
> for 169.254.255.255. You don't have any machines configured with addresses
> in this subnet, so what could it be?
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Re: Friday Follies #2 [7:73371]

2003-08-01 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 7:00 PM + 8/1/03, John Neiberger wrote:
>[This isn't the usual type of follies question where you have to figure
>something out. In this case, you either know the answer or you don't. If you
>don't, you can probably figure out how to look it up and it would be good
>information to have in case you see this in your own network.]
>
>Your network uses RFC 1918 private IP address space (10.0.0.0/8) for your
>addressing. You have a logging access list configured on a LAN interface and
>you begin seeing traffic from devices in the 169.254.0.0/16 subnet destined
>for 169.254.255.255. You don't have any machines configured with addresses
>in this subnet, so what could it be?

Oh. Addresses from THAT planet. :-)




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