Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
What is the real address, I understand if your reticent to provide it but is it part of a larger CIDR block from the other provider? If so and the satellite provider is announcing a more specific /24 then all traffic will come over the satellite link. there is much info missing to really help you in any meaningful way. Dave suaveguru wrote: > > Most of the traffic is arriving via the provider your > doing BGP with and is via this one block of ip with a > /24 e.g 1.1.1.0/24 > > I am seeing almost 100% utilisation via the satellite > down-link (1st provider running BGP) and very minimum > traffic at the second provider( terrestrial) running > default route > > Because the customer does not have their own AS so a > private AS is used > > regards, > suaveguru > --- MADMAN wrote: > > > > > > A prepend will surely influence the inbound > > traffic. Is most of your > > traffic currently arriving via the provider your > > doing BGP with? What > > exactly are you seeing?? Why are you even doing BGP > > with a private AS > > that is incoming only?? With the info you provided > > it's hard to give a > > good answer. > > > > dave > > > > suaveguru wrote: > > > > > > do you think having them change private AS to > > public > > > AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do > > some > > > kind of influencing? > > > > > > regards, > > > suaveguru > > > --- MADMAN wrote: > > > > > > > > You have no way of influencing via BGP the > > inbound > > > > routes since your > > > > using a private AS on one link and default on > > the > > > > other. You need to > > > > work with your providers if you wish to have > > > > incoming traffic to your > > > > network influenced one way or the other. > > > > > > > > suaveguru wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > > > I have been cracking my head with this > > > > load-balancing > > > > > issue but still no answer . > > > > > > > > > > It goes as such > > > > > > > > > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > > > > > > > > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A > > and is > > > > > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over > > Satellite > > > > > > > > > > The second provider is a terrestrial link > > > > full-duplex > > > > > but the customer does not run BGP with them > > but > > > > purely > > > > > a default route > > > > > > > > > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the > > > > traffic > > > > > between the two providers for the Inbound > > traffic > > > > to > > > > > the customer. > > > > > > > > > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH > > prepend > > > > but > > > > > was not so ready to use it because the > > customer > > > > does > > > > > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using > > private > > > > AS > > > > > number provided by the first satellite > > provider > > > > and > > > > > the first provider simply strip private > > AS-Numbers > > > > at > > > > > their router > > > > > > > > > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > > > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > > > > http://im.yahoo.com > > to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > > > > David Madland > > > > Sr. Network Engineer > > > > CCIE# 2016 > > > > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > 612-664-3367 > > > > > > > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > David Madland > > Sr. Network Engineer > > CCIE# 2016 > > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 612-664-3367 > > > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19571&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
Most of the traffic is arriving via the provider your doing BGP with and is via this one block of ip with a /24 e.g 1.1.1.0/24 I am seeing almost 100% utilisation via the satellite down-link (1st provider running BGP) and very minimum traffic at the second provider( terrestrial) running default route Because the customer does not have their own AS so a private AS is used regards, suaveguru --- MADMAN wrote: > > > A prepend will surely influence the inbound > traffic. Is most of your > traffic currently arriving via the provider your > doing BGP with? What > exactly are you seeing?? Why are you even doing BGP > with a private AS > that is incoming only?? With the info you provided > it's hard to give a > good answer. > > dave > > suaveguru wrote: > > > > do you think having them change private AS to > public > > AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do > some > > kind of influencing? > > > > regards, > > suaveguru > > --- MADMAN wrote: > > > > > > You have no way of influencing via BGP the > inbound > > > routes since your > > > using a private AS on one link and default on > the > > > other. You need to > > > work with your providers if you wish to have > > > incoming traffic to your > > > network influenced one way or the other. > > > > > > suaveguru wrote: > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > I have been cracking my head with this > > > load-balancing > > > > issue but still no answer . > > > > > > > > It goes as such > > > > > > > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > > > > > > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A > and is > > > > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over > Satellite > > > > > > > > The second provider is a terrestrial link > > > full-duplex > > > > but the customer does not run BGP with them > but > > > purely > > > > a default route > > > > > > > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the > > > traffic > > > > between the two providers for the Inbound > traffic > > > to > > > > the customer. > > > > > > > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH > prepend > > > but > > > > was not so ready to use it because the > customer > > > does > > > > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using > private > > > AS > > > > number provided by the first satellite > provider > > > and > > > > the first provider simply strip private > AS-Numbers > > > at > > > > their router > > > > > > > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > > > http://im.yahoo.com > to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > > David Madland > > > Sr. Network Engineer > > > CCIE# 2016 > > > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 612-664-3367 > > > > > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > -- > David Madland > Sr. Network Engineer > CCIE# 2016 > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 612-664-3367 > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19531&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
I think what he means is since they are not using a registered AS the AS that they are using is striped at the provider and your network is seen as originating from your provider not from your private AS. Dave suaveguru wrote: > > what do you mean by this? > --- Brian wrote: > > Troll Alert > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Farhan Ahmed" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:30 PM > > Subject: RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge > > problem [7:19339] > > > > > > > then u should think abt running 2 static routes > > > and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge > > problem [7:19339] > > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > I have been cracking my head with this > > load-balancing > > > issue but still no answer . > > > > > > > > > It goes as such > > > > > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > > > > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is > > > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite > > > > > > The second provider is a terrestrial link > > full-duplex > > > but the customer does not run BGP with them but > > purely > > > a default route > > > > > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the > > traffic > > > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic > > to > > > the customer. > > > > > > > > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend > > but > > > was not so ready to use it because the customer > > does > > > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private > > AS > > > number provided by the first satellite provider > > and > > > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers > > at > > > their router > > > > > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > messaging with Yahoo! > > Messenger > > > http://im.yahoo.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19426&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
A prepend will surely influence the inbound traffic. Is most of your traffic currently arriving via the provider your doing BGP with? What exactly are you seeing?? Why are you even doing BGP with a private AS that is incoming only?? With the info you provided it's hard to give a good answer. dave suaveguru wrote: > > do you think having them change private AS to public > AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do some > kind of influencing? > > regards, > suaveguru > --- MADMAN wrote: > > > > You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound > > routes since your > > using a private AS on one link and default on the > > other. You need to > > work with your providers if you wish to have > > incoming traffic to your > > network influenced one way or the other. > > > > suaveguru wrote: > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > I have been cracking my head with this > > load-balancing > > > issue but still no answer . > > > > > > It goes as such > > > > > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > > > > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is > > > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite > > > > > > The second provider is a terrestrial link > > full-duplex > > > but the customer does not run BGP with them but > > purely > > > a default route > > > > > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the > > traffic > > > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic > > to > > > the customer. > > > > > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend > > but > > > was not so ready to use it because the customer > > does > > > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private > > AS > > > number provided by the first satellite provider > > and > > > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers > > at > > > their router > > > > > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > > http://im.yahoo.com > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > David Madland > > Sr. Network Engineer > > CCIE# 2016 > > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 612-664-3367 > > > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19421&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
do you think having them change private AS to public AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do some kind of influencing? regards, suaveguru --- MADMAN wrote: > > You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound > routes since your > using a private AS on one link and default on the > other. You need to > work with your providers if you wish to have > incoming traffic to your > network influenced one way or the other. > > suaveguru wrote: > > > > hi all > > > > I have been cracking my head with this > load-balancing > > issue but still no answer . > > > > It goes as such > > > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is > > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite > > > > The second provider is a terrestrial link > full-duplex > > but the customer does not run BGP with them but > purely > > a default route > > > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the > traffic > > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic > to > > the customer. > > > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend > but > > was not so ready to use it because the customer > does > > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private > AS > > number provided by the first satellite provider > and > > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers > at > > their router > > > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > David Madland > Sr. Network Engineer > CCIE# 2016 > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 612-664-3367 > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19415&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
what do you mean by this? --- Brian wrote: > Troll Alert > > - Original Message - > From: "Farhan Ahmed" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:30 PM > Subject: RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge > problem [7:19339] > > > > then u should think abt running 2 static routes > > and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist > > > > -Original Message- > > From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge > problem [7:19339] > > > > > > hi all > > > > I have been cracking my head with this > load-balancing > > issue but still no answer . > > > > > > It goes as such > > > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is > > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite > > > > The second provider is a terrestrial link > full-duplex > > but the customer does not run BGP with them but > purely > > a default route > > > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the > traffic > > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic > to > > the customer. > > > > > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend > but > > was not so ready to use it because the customer > does > > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private > AS > > number provided by the first satellite provider > and > > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers > at > > their router > > > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19418&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound routes since your using a private AS on one link and default on the other. You need to work with your providers if you wish to have incoming traffic to your network influenced one way or the other. suaveguru wrote: > > hi all > > I have been cracking my head with this load-balancing > issue but still no answer . > > It goes as such > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite > > The second provider is a terrestrial link full-duplex > but the customer does not run BGP with them but purely > a default route > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to > the customer. > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend but > was not so ready to use it because the customer does > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS > number provided by the first satellite provider and > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers at > their router > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19413&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
I can't put static routes because one provider is down-link only and the other is two-way regards, suaveguru --- Farhan Ahmed wrote: > then u should think abt running 2 static routes > and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist > > -Original Message- > From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem > [7:19339] > > > hi all > > I have been cracking my head with this > load-balancing > issue but still no answer . > > > It goes as such > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite > > The second provider is a terrestrial link > full-duplex > but the customer does not run BGP with them but > purely > a default route > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to > the customer. > > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend > but > was not so ready to use it because the customer does > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS > number provided by the first satellite provider and > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers > at > their router > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19377&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
Troll Alert - Original Message - From: "Farhan Ahmed" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:30 PM Subject: RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339] > then u should think abt running 2 static routes > and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist > > -Original Message- > From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339] > > > hi all > > I have been cracking my head with this load-balancing > issue but still no answer . > > > It goes as such > > Customer A has two providers to Internet > > The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is > only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite > > The second provider is a terrestrial link full-duplex > but the customer does not run BGP with them but purely > a default route > > Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic > between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to > the customer. > > > I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend but > was not so ready to use it because the customer does > not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS > number provided by the first satellite provider and > the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers at > their router > > Any form of input will be greatly appreciated > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19372&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]
then u should think abt running 2 static routes and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist -Original Message- From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339] hi all I have been cracking my head with this load-balancing issue but still no answer . It goes as such Customer A has two providers to Internet The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite The second provider is a terrestrial link full-duplex but the customer does not run BGP with them but purely a default route Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to the customer. I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend but was not so ready to use it because the customer does not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS number provided by the first satellite provider and the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers at their router Any form of input will be greatly appreciated __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19371&t=19339 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
