Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
I believe that all the VoIP images require 64MB. Though VoFR, VoHDLC, and VoATM are supported w/ 32MB HulaJoe wrote in message news:200211130159.BAA28992;groupstudy.com... Hello All, I just purchased a 3810 to practice some Voice labs. I was hoping someone could answer a quick question for me. The 3810 I'm getting has 32 MB of RAM - Is this enough to run the 3810 as a VoIP GW ? Can someone give me some insight in regards to setting up the 3810 to support VoIP ? Thanks in advance! Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of Peter Walker : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both) Folks I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good advice. Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking employment. Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my question. Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released). Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between the exam materials? Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close together)? I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a 3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920 (yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek $$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for the lab exam(s) for any of the above. The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. Thanks Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57451t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
B.J. Wilson wrote: The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. passing the CCIE Written is *nothing*. You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a position to go for a second. Don't put CCIE Written or CCIE candidate on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.* I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I know I dont have a CCIE yet. That isnt the issue. Right now I just cant take the lab exam as I plain cant afford it and my lab is in storage so I cant practice anyway. In fact right now my cisco skills are getting rusty as I havent even had any cisco hands on since July. If you're looking for resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go for some of the CCIP certs instead. Resume boosters arent the issue. I already have CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, CSS1, CIPTSS from cisco and am a CISSP and CCSE. I am trying to keep myself sane by making what productive use I can of a very unwelcome excess of free time right now (unemployment really sucks!!!) In the next few weeks I will probably study for the MPLS and EVODD exams and may perhaps even try for the Packet Telephony exam and IP telephony troubleshooting exam. I could also, as I originally stated try to pass an additional CCIE qualification exam (RS or CS-Voice) or two. I sent the question so I could hopefully receive advice as to whether or not this was a stupid idea and also, to find out what people thought about having multiple lab exams outstanding. I.E. Once I find myself in a position where I can afford to take the lab(s), should I treat them seperately and work towards them one at a time, or try to work towards them all at the same time (on the basis of a lot of common material in the different labs). (Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting CCIE Written on their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing. Hopefully I'm wrong. :-) You are ;-))) Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57036t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Earlier today I wrote I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I went ahead and did the search for you. http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57037t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Peter, Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support certification, the material is very helpful for your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money to do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as well in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some of these certification you are using your free time very wisely... Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Earlier today I wrote I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I went ahead and did the search for you. http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57039t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Peter, Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support certification, the material is very helpful for your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money to do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as well in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some of these certification you are using your free time very wisely... Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Earlier today I wrote I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I went ahead and did the search for you. http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57040t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a CCIE Voice? Persio - Original Message - From: Juan Blanco To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:36 AM Subject: RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Peter, Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support certification, the material is very helpful for your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money to do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as well in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some of these certification you are using your free time very wisely... Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Earlier today I wrote I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for CCIE written. I posted my opinions on this about june/july. I went ahead and did the search for you. http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57043t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Persio No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (CS) and one of those is voice. No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc Persio Pucci wrote: guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a CCIE Voice? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57066t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Peter, that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it? Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the Voice qualification exam, how come the lab will be the same as the others? Will I have to know how to operate and handle all the other technologies as Optic or Cable? Persio - Original Message - From: Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP To: Persio Pucci ; Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Persio No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (CS) and one of those is voice. No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc Persio Pucci wrote: guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a CCIE Voice? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57067t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Persio The voice blueprint and test are not available yet. I heard from Cisco that the exam is planned to go into beta this month though. As for the lab, it will only test a common body of knowledge. This is all explained on the CCIE pages on Cisco.com Peter Persio Pucci wrote: Peter, that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it? Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the Voice qualification exam, how come the lab will be the same as the others? Will I have to know how to operate and handle all the other technologies as Optic or Cable? Persio - Original Message - From: Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP To: Persio Pucci ; Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Persio No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (CS) and one of those is voice. No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc Persio Pucci wrote: guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a CCIE Voice? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57068t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Persio Pucci wrote: Peter, that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it? Scott from Cisco just wrote: Peter, It's still being slated for the end of this month. -- Scott At 07:12 PM 11/7/2002 +, you wrote: Hey Scott Any word on when the voice exam will go into beta? Thanks Peter Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57070t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
All, The feedback I got from Cisco about this is as follows Although other Voice certification options are being discussed, the only related exam currently in production is the IP Telephony, which will concentrate on the Enterprise.The IP Telephony exam will begin beta in November. This is one of the various written option for CCIE CS. Keep in mind that lab remains the same regardless of which written you pass for CS and hopefully when you pass nothing points out which written you have manage to pass. HTH From: Persio Pucci Peter, that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it? Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the Voice qualification exam, how come the lab will be the same as the others? Will I have to know how to operate and handle all the other technologies as Optic or Cable? Persio - Original Message - From: Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP To: Persio Pucci ; Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] Persio No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (CS) and one of those is voice. No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc Persio Pucci wrote: guys, about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be aCCIE Voice? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57067t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57090t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
Hmm what a fascinating filter!!! Concatenate the word router and word ccie with the cc missing if you really need to figure out where else I posted this question :-) Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both) PS. Does anyone know why this list totally mangles my rfc compliant email address whenever I send an message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57021t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at once or is this just a really foolish idea. I really, really, *really* don't want this to sound as caustic as it's going to sound, but I gotta say it anyway: dude, passing the CCIE Written is *nothing*. You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a position to go for a second. Don't put CCIE Written or CCIE candidate on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.* The CCIE Written is a first step, nothing more (and a small first step at that, in relation to the mammoth task of passing the Lab). If you're looking for resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go for some of the CCIP certs instead. (Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting CCIE Written on their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing. Hopefully I'm wrong. :-) $0.02, BJ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57023t=57019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
