RE: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campu [7:51301]
Thank-you very much, Larry and Chuck, for the recommendation of Troubleshooting Campus Networks. Hopefully it will help with both real-world issues and issues that appear in the Cisco Support exam, (not that those aren't real-world. ;-) I look forward to learning more about the 3550 switches, Chuck. I hear that you and Leigh Anne Chisholm are working on a paper on that topic for CertificationZone.com. (I don't think that I'm revealing anything private.) That should be great! You're right that it's hard to publish a book that has all the latest developments in our field. In addition to 801.1t STP amendments, I think 802.1W (rapid spanning tree convergence) holds lots of promise, but I wasn't able to cover it in much detail. But that's why the book has a Web site too. Better get to work on some new white papers. ;-) The Web site is here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ Priscilla Larry Letterman wrote: > > I agree, the book is good... > I have not read all of it yet...but so far its > another good work by Priscella and her co-author... > > > > > Larry Letterman > Cisco Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of > Chuck's Long Road > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campus > Networks > [7:51290] > > > Folks, it is always a pleasure to read a well written technical > book, and > Troubleshooting Campus Networks is no exception. Priscilla > Oppenheimer and > co-author Joseph Bardwell have created an outstanding book, one > which will > occupy a place of honor on my bookshelf, right next to Top Down > Network > Design. > > This book goes into a lot of detail, making it an excellent > choice for study > and for life with real networks. Examples abound. As does good > advice for > design and troubleshooting. For example, in the chapter on > switching, the > authors point out good reasons why one should NOT directly link > two core > switches in a typical core / distribution / access design. > Having seen many > such designs where high level engineers with years of good > experience have > done just that, with the belief that more redundancy is better, > it is nice > to read a solid explanation of the opposite. > > From what I have read so far, I am guessing that the actual > writing was > locked down six months ago. There is no discussion of the Cisco > 3550 line of > switches, no discussion of 802.1t STP extensions, and no > discussion of > 802.1q tunneling, for example, which if nothing else serves to > show how fast > this business continues to change. > > For those who think I am sucking up, you are absolutely right. > I am. But > only because I am thankful for the advice and guidance that PO > has given to > me and to many others on this list, both directly and > indirectly. I want to > ensure that the flow of good advice continues. :-> > > So check it out > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471210137/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/002-3394114 > -4544058 > watch the wrap > > This is most definitely a book for those looking for good solid > information > for work and for study. You will most definitely find both here. > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51318&t=51301 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campu [7:51301]
""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Thank-you very much, Larry and Chuck, for the recommendation of > Troubleshooting Campus Networks. Hopefully it will help with both real-world > issues and issues that appear in the Cisco Support exam, (not that those > aren't real-world. ;-) > > I look forward to learning more about the 3550 switches, Chuck. I hear that > you and Leigh Anne Chisholm are working on a paper on that topic for > CertificationZone.com. (I don't think that I'm revealing anything private.) > That should be great! CL: which reminds me, Cil, you got my blood pressure up quite a few points when you state on page 205 that one can do VMPS with a simple TFTP server. I had thought that VMPS would be one topic that I could count on as being absent from the new CCIE Lab. Rats! Now I have to worry about it. :-O CL: got any sources for how to do so? CCO seems to indicate you need high end Cat switches as actual servers, although the servers themselves get the config info from an external TFTP server. Of course, Cisco has obvious reasons for saying so!!! :-> > > You're right that it's hard to publish a book that has all the latest > developments in our field. In addition to 801.1t STP amendments, I think > 802.1W (rapid spanning tree convergence) holds lots of promise, but I wasn't > able to cover it in much detail. But that's why the book has a Web site too. > Better get to work on some new white papers. ;-) > > The Web site is here: > > http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ CL: nice set of links!!! great bookmark, great starting point for a lot of things. the book list is a master's class in and of itself. > > Priscilla > > > Larry Letterman wrote: > > > > I agree, the book is good... > > I have not read all of it yet...but so far its > > another good work by Priscella and her co-author... > > > > > > > > > > Larry Letterman > > Cisco Systems > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of > > Chuck's Long Road > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campus > > Networks > > [7:51290] > > > > > > Folks, it is always a pleasure to read a well written technical > > book, and > > Troubleshooting Campus Networks is no exception. Priscilla > > Oppenheimer and > > co-author Joseph Bardwell have created an outstanding book, one > > which will > > occupy a place of honor on my bookshelf, right next to Top Down > > Network > > Design. > > > > This book goes into a lot of detail, making it an excellent > > choice for study > > and for life with real networks. Examples abound. As does good > > advice for > > design and troubleshooting. For example, in the chapter on > > switching, the > > authors point out good reasons why one should NOT directly link > > two core > > switches in a typical core / distribution / access design. > > Having seen many > > such designs where high level engineers with years of good > > experience have > > done just that, with the belief that more redundancy is better, > > it is nice > > to read a solid explanation of the opposite. > > > > From what I have read so far, I am guessing that the actual > > writing was > > locked down six months ago. There is no discussion of the Cisco > > 3550 line of > > switches, no discussion of 802.1t STP extensions, and no > > discussion of > > 802.1q tunneling, for example, which if nothing else serves to > > show how fast > > this business continues to change. > > > > For those who think I am sucking up, you are absolutely right. > > I am. But > > only because I am thankful for the advice and guidance that PO > > has given to > > me and to many others on this list, both directly and > > indirectly. I want to > > ensure that the flow of good advice continues. :-> > > > > So check it out > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471210137/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/002-3394114 > > -4544058 > > watch the wrap > > > > This is most definitely a book for those looking for good solid > > information > > for work and for study. You will most definitely find both here. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51324&t=51301 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campu [7:51301]
If you want to know about 3550s, download the software cisco config guide free, it is huge (800 pages). I don't know much about Certification zone, but I cant give them a plug here. Also, if you still want to know more, Cisco is coming out with a book that covers that very subject, and other Cat switches and the COS and IOS. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campu [7:51301] Thank-you very much, Larry and Chuck, for the recommendation of Troubleshooting Campus Networks. Hopefully it will help with both real-world issues and issues that appear in the Cisco Support exam, (not that those aren't real-world. ;-) I look forward to learning more about the 3550 switches, Chuck. I hear that you and Leigh Anne Chisholm are working on a paper on that topic for CertificationZone.com. (I don't think that I'm revealing anything private.) That should be great! You're right that it's hard to publish a book that has all the latest developments in our field. In addition to 801.1t STP amendments, I think 802.1W (rapid spanning tree convergence) holds lots of promise, but I wasn't able to cover it in much detail. But that's why the book has a Web site too. Better get to work on some new white papers. ;-) The Web site is here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ Priscilla Larry Letterman wrote: > > I agree, the book is good... > I have not read all of it yet...but so far its > another good work by Priscella and her co-author... > > > > > Larry Letterman > Cisco Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of > Chuck's Long Road > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campus > Networks > [7:51290] > > > Folks, it is always a pleasure to read a well written technical > book, and > Troubleshooting Campus Networks is no exception. Priscilla > Oppenheimer and > co-author Joseph Bardwell have created an outstanding book, one > which will > occupy a place of honor on my bookshelf, right next to Top Down > Network > Design. > > This book goes into a lot of detail, making it an excellent > choice for study > and for life with real networks. Examples abound. As does good > advice for > design and troubleshooting. For example, in the chapter on > switching, the > authors point out good reasons why one should NOT directly link > two core > switches in a typical core / distribution / access design. > Having seen many > such designs where high level engineers with years of good > experience have > done just that, with the belief that more redundancy is better, > it is nice > to read a solid explanation of the opposite. > > From what I have read so far, I am guessing that the actual > writing was > locked down six months ago. There is no discussion of the Cisco > 3550 line of > switches, no discussion of 802.1t STP extensions, and no > discussion of > 802.1q tunneling, for example, which if nothing else serves to > show how fast > this business continues to change. > > For those who think I am sucking up, you are absolutely right. > I am. But > only because I am thankful for the advice and guidance that PO > has given to > me and to many others on this list, both directly and > indirectly. I want to > ensure that the flow of good advice continues. :-> > > So check it out > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471210137/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/002-339 4114 > -4544058 > watch the wrap > > This is most definitely a book for those looking for good solid > information > for work and for study. You will most definitely find both here. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51326&t=51301 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campu [7:51301]
Chuck's Long Road wrote: > > > CL: which reminds me, Cil, you got my blood pressure up quite a > few points > when you state on page 205 that one can do VMPS with a simple > TFTP server. I > had thought that VMPS would be one topic that I could count on > as being > absent from the new CCIE Lab. Rats! Now I have to worry about > it. :-O > > CL: got any sources for how to do so? CCO seems to indicate you > need high > end Cat switches as actual servers, although the servers > themselves get the > config info from an external TFTP server. Of course, Cisco has > obvious > reasons for saying so!!! :-> It sounds like I misspoke (miswrote actually). As far as I know the VMPS database (an ASCII text file) is on a TFTP server. The switches acting as VMPS servers download that from the TFTP server. The switches acting as clients talk to the VMPS server, not the TFTP server. Thanks for pointing this out. Priscilla > > > > > You're right that it's hard to publish a book that has all > the latest > > developments in our field. In addition to 801.1t STP > amendments, I think > > 802.1W (rapid spanning tree convergence) holds lots of > promise, but I > wasn't > > able to cover it in much detail. But that's why the book has > a Web site > too. > > Better get to work on some new white papers. ;-) > > > > The Web site is here: > > > > http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/ > > > CL: nice set of links!!! great bookmark, great starting point > for a lot of > things. the book list is a master's class in and of itself. > > > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > Larry Letterman wrote: > > > > > > I agree, the book is good... > > > I have not read all of it yet...but so far its > > > another good work by Priscella and her co-author... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Larry Letterman > > > Cisco Systems > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > > Behalf Of > > > Chuck's Long Road > > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campus > > > Networks > > > [7:51290] > > > > > > > > > Folks, it is always a pleasure to read a well written > technical > > > book, and > > > Troubleshooting Campus Networks is no exception. Priscilla > > > Oppenheimer and > > > co-author Joseph Bardwell have created an outstanding book, > one > > > which will > > > occupy a place of honor on my bookshelf, right next to Top > Down > > > Network > > > Design. > > > > > > This book goes into a lot of detail, making it an excellent > > > choice for study > > > and for life with real networks. Examples abound. As does > good > > > advice for > > > design and troubleshooting. For example, in the chapter on > > > switching, the > > > authors point out good reasons why one should NOT directly > link > > > two core > > > switches in a typical core / distribution / access design. > > > Having seen many > > > such designs where high level engineers with years of good > > > experience have > > > done just that, with the belief that more redundancy is > better, > > > it is nice > > > to read a solid explanation of the opposite. > > > > > > From what I have read so far, I am guessing that the actual > > > writing was > > > locked down six months ago. There is no discussion of the > Cisco > > > 3550 line of > > > switches, no discussion of 802.1t STP extensions, and no > > > discussion of > > > 802.1q tunneling, for example, which if nothing else serves > to > > > show how fast > > > this business continues to change. > > > > > > For those who think I am sucking up, you are absolutely > right. > > > I am. But > > > only because I am thankful for the advice and guidance that > PO > > > has given to > > > me and to many others on this list, both directly and > > > indirectly. I want to > > > ensure that the flow of good advice continues. :-> > > > > > > So check it out > > > > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471210137/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/002-3394114 > > > -4544058 > > > watch the wrap > > > > > > This is most definitely a book for those looking for good > solid > > > information > > > for work and for study. You will most definitely find both > here. > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51332&t=51301 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
