Re: The difference between crossover and rollover cable

2000-09-09 Thread Jay Hennigan

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Alex Lee wrote:

> Hello Jay,
> 
> Two stupid questions :
> (a) Why is that a 56 K crossover pin-out (is this the correct term ?)
> differs from a T1 ?

Different telco standards.  No real reason, they just chose to use 
different pairs.  T-1 is an RJ-48 standard, and 56K is an RJ-45.  Note
that many people mistakenly refer to any 8-pin modular connector as an
"RJ-45".  This is not technically accurate.  The manner in which the
connector is used determines its RJ-number.  "RJ-nn" is an FCC standard 
for "Registered Jack", describing interfaces to the telephone network in
Part 68 of FCC Rules.  An 8-pin modular connector by itself isn't an 
RJ-anything until it is wired to a network.  

> (b) What is the purpose of using a 56K or T1 crossover cable ?

Anywhere you have a physical protocol that uses one physical wire or pair
for transmitting and another for receiving there may be the need to connect 
two devices directly without an intermediate medium.  A 56K or T1 crossover
would be used to connect two CSUs for a lab or short-haul connection.  It's
the same principle as an ethernet crossover or a null-modem for RS-232.  

The signal originating outbound on one side is connected to the input
expecting a signal on the other side, and vice-versa. 
 
> Can you give me links so that I can get some more details info ? Thanks.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis3600/marcabl.htm

More Cisco pinouts than you'll ever want to know about.  The docs for each 
router series have a section on cables used with that particular box.  The
URL above is for a 3600 which should cover most of them.  

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RE: The difference between crossover and rollover cable

2000-09-09 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Crossover is where you cross 1 with 3 and 2 with 6.

1 --- 3
2 --- 6
3 --- 1
4 --- 4
5 --- 5
6 --- 2
7 --- 7
8 --- 8

Rollover is where you mirror all 8 wires, so 1 goes to 8, 2 goes to 7,
etc...

1 --- 8
2 --- 7
3 --- 6
4 --- 5
5 --- 4
6 --- 3
7 --- 2
8 --- 1

Hth,

Ole


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Subject: The difference between crossover and rollover cable


Hi ,

Can any body show me if there is a difference in definition  between
crossover and  rollover cables.


Thanks


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Re: The difference between crossover and rollover cable

2000-09-08 Thread rick


Try this link.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/c1400/icg/cables.htm#xtocid214333

Rick


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>Can any body show me if there is a difference in definition  between
>crossover and  rollover cables.
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Re: The difference between crossover and rollover cable

2000-09-08 Thread Jay Hennigan

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Lists Wizard wrote:

> Can any body show me if there is a difference in definition  between
> crossover and  rollover cables.

Ethernet crossover:

1 - 3
2 - 6
3 - 1
6 - 2

T-1 crossover:

1 - 4
2 - 5
4 - 1
5 - 2

56K crossover:

1 - 7
2 - 8
7 - 1
8 - 2

Rollover:

1 - 8
2 - 7
3 - 6
4 - 5
5 - 4
6 - 3
7 - 2
8 - 1

Where, looking into the jack, 

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A rollover will work for a 56K crossover in a pinch.

Substituting a straight-through for a rollover gives a null-modem function
for Cisco console aux and async ports.

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