RE: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]

2002-09-05 Thread Michael Greenbaum

Shawn,
Good Point. The books that I am using to Study for the CCIE Written are:
Managing Cisco Network Security - cisco Press
Routing TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2 - doyle
Cisco LAN Switching - Clark
Internet Routing Architectures - Halabi
CCIE practical Studies Vol 1 - Solie

Hope this helps.

Michael


From: Kaminski, Shawn G 
Reply-To: Kaminski, Shawn G 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 04:03:27 GMT

True, or the other way around. The knowledge gained by the Security
specialization may help with the CCIE lab. The reason I say this is because
the RS CCIE Written 350-001 pre-qualification exam blueprint shows
Security as a topic you must understand for this exam. This leads me to
believe that you may possibly be asked to configure some basic
Security-based solutions when taking the RS CCIE lab.
Cisco states, The Routing and Switching Lab exam tests any feature that 
can
be configured on the equipment in the Equipment List, except for LAT,
DECnet, Apollo, Banyan VINES, ISO CLNS, XNS, ATM LANE, X.25, and 
Appletalk.
Nothing is said about Security being exempt from the RS CCIE lab.
However, I also believe that major testing of Security-based solutions 
would
be tested on the Security CCIE lab. Just be aware that you could possibly
see some Security on the standard RS CCIE lab.
Shawn K.


  -Original Message-
  From:   Michael Greenbaum [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:06 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Re: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
 
  I have same issue. My solution was to start focusing on the CCIE Routing
  and
  Switching (still in the process of studying). Theory is that most of the
  advanced knowledge gained by CCIE will help with the specializations.
 
  My two pennies,
 
  Michael
 
 
  From: suaveguru
  Reply-To: suaveguru
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
  Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:43 GMT
  
  Hi , thanks for the group for your fantastic input on
  the exams I have passed so far CCNP , CCDP . What do
  you guys think I should take next, CCIE or Security
  exams ?
  
  any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated
  
  regards,
  suaveguru
  
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Re: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]

2002-09-04 Thread suaveguru

thanks , what should be my first step for CCIE RS ,
what books should I use and how should I prepare for
lab test if I do not have the actual equipment

regards,
Jason Yee

--- Michael Greenbaum  wrote:
 I have same issue. My solution was to start focusing
 on the CCIE Routing and 
 Switching (still in the process of studying). Theory
 is that most of the 
 advanced knowledge gained by CCIE will help with the
 specializations.
 
 My two pennies,
 
 Michael
 
 
 From: suaveguru 
 Reply-To: suaveguru 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:43 GMT
 
 Hi , thanks for the group for your fantastic input
 on
 the exams I have passed so far CCNP , CCDP . What
 do
 you guys think I should take next, CCIE or Security
 exams ?
 
 any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated
 
 regards,
 suaveguru
 
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Re: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]

2002-09-04 Thread Brian Hartsfield

You are going to have a hard time passing the lab if you do not have
actual equipment.

So your first step should be to buy some equipment.



On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, suaveguru wrote:

 thanks , what should be my first step for CCIE RS ,
 what books should I use and how should I prepare for
 lab test if I do not have the actual equipment
 
 regards,
 Jason Yee
 
 --- Michael Greenbaum  wrote:
  I have same issue. My solution was to start focusing
  on the CCIE Routing and 
  Switching (still in the process of studying). Theory
  is that most of the 
  advanced knowledge gained by CCIE will help with the
  specializations.
  
  My two pennies,
  
  Michael
  
  
  From: suaveguru 
  Reply-To: suaveguru 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
  Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:43 GMT
  
  Hi , thanks for the group for your fantastic input
  on
  the exams I have passed so far CCNP , CCDP . What
  do
  you guys think I should take next, CCIE or Security
  exams ?
  
  any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated
  
  regards,
  suaveguru
  
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RE: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]

2002-09-04 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1

The road to CCIE is long and arduous, you will absolutely need hands-on, so
if you opt not to purchase any home lab equipment you can rent remote access
to a lab from places like ccbootcamp.com, bradshawlabs.com or any of the
many others out there (sorry - no promo intended).

As far as books and topics, CCO is the best initial resource for finding a
good path. Take a look at the site to get an idea of just how long the road
to the 5 digits will be. HTH

(word wrap)
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html

Bill Creighton CCNP
Senior System Engineer
Motorola
iDEN CNRC Packet Data


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Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]

thanks , what should be my first step for CCIE RS ,
what books should I use and how should I prepare for
lab test if I do not have the actual equipment

regards,
Jason Yee

--- Michael Greenbaum  wrote:
 I have same issue. My solution was to start focusing
 on the CCIE Routing and 
 Switching (still in the process of studying). Theory
 is that most of the 
 advanced knowledge gained by CCIE will help with the
 specializations.
 
 My two pennies,
 
 Michael
 
 
 From: suaveguru 
 Reply-To: suaveguru 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:43 GMT
 
 Hi , thanks for the group for your fantastic input
 on
 the exams I have passed so far CCNP , CCDP . What
 do
 you guys think I should take next, CCIE or Security
 exams ?
 
 any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated
 
 regards,
 suaveguru
 
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Re: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Greenbaum

I have same issue. My solution was to start focusing on the CCIE Routing and 
Switching (still in the process of studying). Theory is that most of the 
advanced knowledge gained by CCIE will help with the specializations.

My two pennies,

Michael


From: suaveguru 
Reply-To: suaveguru 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:43 GMT

Hi , thanks for the group for your fantastic input on
the exams I have passed so far CCNP , CCDP . What do
you guys think I should take next, CCIE or Security
exams ?

any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated

regards,
suaveguru

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RE: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]

2002-09-03 Thread Heffner Christopher

It depends upon your background I would say.

Do you have any background or interest in the security side of things.

If you do then the CSS1 is just for more courses and/or tests and probably
could be completed in about 6 months or less.

Understand that all the CSS1 tests are about to change in the next 6 to 8
weeks.

You seem to have the knowledge and drive to pass the CCNP and CCDP which is
great so continuing on to the CCIE Routing and Switching could also be the
next logical step.

I would start with studying for the CCIE Routing and Switching Written
test.  That should take you about 4 to 6 weeks of gooding reading of such
books like the Cisco Press Internetworking Technlogies Handbook which most
chapters can be found on Cisco website also.

Try the written test first and then see what you think.  

You can always go back to the security stuff later.

Understand the CCIE Routing and Switch Lab test is another big challenge and
will demand a lot of time and commitment on your part.  Most folks spend at
least a year or close to two years getting ready for the lab exam and take
it 3 or 4 times just to pass.  You need lots of studying, reading and lots
and lots and lots of practice on real Cisco gear.

Either way get signed up for the other groupstudy lists once you have
decided.

Best of luck in your new challenges.


Christopher M. Heffner
Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.
CCSI, CCIE, MCT, MCSE, MCNI, MCNE, CLI, PCLP, FCSE, CTT, ASE, A+
Certified Cisco Systems Instructor and Expert


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RE: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]

2002-09-03 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

True, or the other way around. The knowledge gained by the Security
specialization may help with the CCIE lab. The reason I say this is because
the RS CCIE Written 350-001 pre-qualification exam blueprint shows
Security as a topic you must understand for this exam. This leads me to
believe that you may possibly be asked to configure some basic
Security-based solutions when taking the RS CCIE lab. 
Cisco states, The Routing and Switching Lab exam tests any feature that can
be configured on the equipment in the Equipment List, except for LAT,
DECnet, Apollo, Banyan VINES, ISO CLNS, XNS, ATM LANE, X.25, and Appletalk.
Nothing is said about Security being exempt from the RS CCIE lab. 
However, I also believe that major testing of Security-based solutions would
be tested on the Security CCIE lab. Just be aware that you could possibly
see some Security on the standard RS CCIE lab.
Shawn K. 


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Greenbaum [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:06 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
 
 I have same issue. My solution was to start focusing on the CCIE Routing
 and 
 Switching (still in the process of studying). Theory is that most of the 
 advanced knowledge gained by CCIE will help with the specializations.
 
 My two pennies,
 
 Michael
 
 
 From: suaveguru 
 Reply-To: suaveguru 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: What's next after CCNP AND CCDP [7:52611]
 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:43 GMT
 
 Hi , thanks for the group for your fantastic input on
 the exams I have passed so far CCNP , CCDP . What do
 you guys think I should take next, CCIE or Security
 exams ?
 
 any form of inputs will be greatly appreciated
 
 regards,
 suaveguru
 
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