RE: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834]
It doesn't look like the market liked the idea. Cisco stock went down. I think it sounds like a great idea! But don't take market advice from me. I bought pets.com. :-) The only thing I have to show for it is a cool sweatshirt and sock puppet. Priscilla CCIE #6746 wrote: I used to work in a high visibility position within Cisco and John Chambers told me he was not interested in entering this market space in any way shape or form. With that said, we had developed several products, such as a low end broadband router with built in firewall and vpn access, and low dollar wireless access points. The router is nice, and I have several of them but the wireless products really sucked and he threw the RD dollars out the door, and never marketed the products and pretty much gave the products away to employees really cheap. Now to see this after throwing all that money away surprises me, plus this is the first time I have seen John contradict himself. Now I just hope they Ciscoize the products and our home wireless networks will get much cheaper :) d- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elijah Savage Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834] Cisco buys Linksys. http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/?story=NewsStory/BW/20030320/a 5141_1048177983.varp=CSCO -- BSD is for people who love Unix - Linux is for people who hate Microsoft Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66050t=65834 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834]
I used to work in a high visibility position within Cisco and John Chambers told me he was not interested in entering this market space in any way shape or form. With that said, we had developed several products, such as a low end broadband router with built in firewall and vpn access, and low dollar wireless access points. The router is nice, and I have several of them but the wireless products really sucked and he threw the RD dollars out the door, and never marketed the products and pretty much gave the products away to employees really cheap. Now to see this after throwing all that money away surprises me, plus this is the first time I have seen John contradict himself. Now I just hope they Ciscoize the products and our home wireless networks will get much cheaper :) d- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elijah Savage Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834] Cisco buys Linksys. http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/?story=NewsStory/BW/20030320/a 5141_1048177983.varp=CSCO -- BSD is for people who love Unix - Linux is for people who hate Microsoft Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65971t=65834 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834]
to buy into a huge growth market? Especially in an area which they do not really cover at the minute (home user)... Personally, I think it was only a matter of time - they announced earlier this year they were looking to buy companies to expand into growth areas in which they currently have little (or no) involvement at the minute. Also, they have just recently bought someone who provides voice technology (Signal or something I think) in their IP phones. I would expect them to be going for someone in the storage arena next, they've also said they want to expand/improve their network storage product stuff. just my $0.02 -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 March 2003 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834] Cisco buys Linksys. http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/?story=NewsStory/BW/20030320/a5141_1048177983.varp=CSCO -- BSD is for people who love Unix - Linux is for people who hate Microsoft Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65856t=65834 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834]
Elijah Savage wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco buys Linksys. http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/?story=NewsStory/BW/20030320/a 5141_1048177983.varp=CSCO Note that Cisco will continue with the Linksys name and operate the company as a separate division. Cisco failed miserably in the SOHO / Consumer market. But there is a LOT of money to be made there. So Cisco did what Cisco does - go out and buy a company that does it right. The advantage of operating the acquisition under its existing name, and operating it separately is that Cisco doesn't get into the game of trying to make their products interoperable from top to bottom. Part of their earlier problem is customers expected seamless integration of the low end with the high end, and Cisco couldn't make it happen. Linksys comsumer products - wireless, DSL, cable, switches, etc are great products, especially for the home market. Now Cisco is in the market as a player, not a wannabe. -- BSD is for people who love Unix - Linux is for people who hate Microsoft Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65861t=65834 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834]
why not? my boss came to me this morning prior to the announcement and thought they were going to say they were buying checkpoint! scott Elijah Savage wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco buys Linksys. http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/?story=NewsStory/BW/20030320/a 5141_1048177983.varp=CSCO -- BSD is for people who love Unix - Linux is for people who hate Microsoft Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65866t=65834 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834]
Not yet. But with Broadcom now in charge of security technology, we can probably expect big changes in the PIX line or seeing the PIX move to the SOHO market and a new introduction of a Carrier Class firewall. (hopefully) - Original Message - From: Scott Roberts To: Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834] why not? my boss came to me this morning prior to the announcement and thought they were going to say they were buying checkpoint! scott Elijah Savage wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco buys Linksys. http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/?story=NewsStory/BW/20030320/a 5141_1048177983.varp=CSCO -- BSD is for people who love Unix - Linux is for people who hate Microsoft Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65877t=65834 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834]
The Long and Winding Road wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Elijah Savage wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco buys Linksys. http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/?story=NewsStory/BW/20030320/a 5141_1048177983.varp=CSCO Note that Cisco will continue with the Linksys name and operate the company as a separate division. Cisco failed miserably in the SOHO / Consumer market. But there is a LOT of money to be made there. So Cisco did what Cisco does - go out and buy a company that does it right. To be fair to Cisco, it is extremely hard to serve 2 distinct markets well. Cisco dominates in the enterprise/government market which demands features and integratability. Margins are high, sales are done mostly through the channel, and brand-name recognition and the 'golden halo' of the Cisco name are important. The SOHO market is different. Price is paramount, margins are low, and practically everything is done through retail. True indeed, there is good money to be made in the SOHO market. But it requires an entirely different mentality where competition is brutal and you have to construct a high-volume, low-margin business model - a far cry from the Cisco we know and love. It's the difference between operating Neiman-Marcus and Walmart. The advantage of operating the acquisition under its existing name, and operating it separately is that Cisco doesn't get into the game of trying to make their products interoperable from top to bottom. Part of their earlier problem is customers expected seamless integration of the low end with the high end, and Cisco couldn't make it happen. Linksys comsumer products - wireless, DSL, cable, switches, etc are great products, especially for the home market. Now Cisco is in the market as a player, not a wannabe. -- BSD is for people who love Unix - Linux is for people who hate Microsoft Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65884t=65834 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
