Re: a good forum [7:42813]
Just came across this story on China and Cisco routersWonder how long before the US Gov't finds that it needs to do the same under the name of National Security aka terroism.Slowly the US Constitution is being changed from We The People... to We The Sheeple... Also, don't forget to call your Senator and Congressman and tell them that you want to be one of the first on your block to get your Big Brother Card, uh I mean, National ID CardLarry Ellison say's it's good for your and Scott McNealy already has his. Damn - Where's My John Wayne DVD's I'm gettin pist nowAh hell, all I really need is: my woman, my dog and my gun. Crap I almost forgot: And my 255 channels of cable TV... :-) Oh well who cares as long as I get my cert so I can become a professional indentured servant...NOT!!! -DILBERT WHERE ARE YOU WHEN I NEED YOU-- Anyhow - enough ranting BS, checkout the story it's an interesting read and a real wake-up for those that believe in the freedom of the Internet and people in general. cut-n-paste newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/30/163555.shtml -Eric PS - Please send all flames to my personnel e-mail account [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: supernet To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: RE: a good forum [7:42813] Because China has 338 CCIEs (more than Canada, Japan, France or Austrilia). I bet they are dealing with Cisco gear. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html By the way, if you think you are Mr. Someone, check out this Chinese guy: http://www.ccie.com.cn/ hahahhahaahha Yoshi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a good forum [7:42813] (Devil's advocate) Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of Cisco gear)? Mike W. Peter van Oene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42954t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
Aren't we??? Your point? (Devils advocate is more fun) cisco wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Isn't China a nuclear power? PA -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams Sent: Mon 4/29/2002 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: a good forum [7:42813] (Devil's advocate) Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of Cisco gear)? Mike W. Peter van Oene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42878t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a good forum [7:42813]
Aren't we??? Your point? Nuclear powers are generally not techincally illiterate. For example, question are there any cisco routers in china? what are they used for? implies that. Marko. P.S. China has more than 300 CCIE's. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42880t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
Marko Milivojevic wrote: Nuclear powers are generally not techincally illiterate. For example, question are there any cisco routers in china? what are they used for? implies that. You paraphrase my message incorrectly. What I said was this: tony, just wondering, do you have many cisco routers and switches in China? what models? where are they used? -- This is not a political question, only technical curiosity. I have a dream, and that is to work in China on their networks, preferably with equipment that I'm familiar with such as Cisco and Nortel. I'm fascinated with Chinese culture(s), although I've not had the opportunity to learn more than the basics of the language(s). One guy from China got blasted on the zebra list for asking about terabit routers. I'm glad to see the reception is friendlier here on the cisco list. Cheers, -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42892t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a good forum [7:42813]
FYI, A friend of mine worked for Cisco China since 1995 just bought a house in Beijing for US$600K (yeah, 600K. AND he paid cash) He said Cisco China is the only country that can meet their sales quota every year in the whole world. Yoshi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter van Oene Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a good forum [7:42813] him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. At 05:00 PM 4/29/2002 -0400, Tom Scott wrote: gic tony wrote: i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while very good place . tony, just wondering, do you have many cisco routers and switches in China? what models? where are they used? -- This is not a political question, only technical curiosity. -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42901t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a good forum [7:42813]
I think you'll find they have more Cisco equipment than they know what to do with. I work for Motorola in the GPRS division and China tend to buy equipment like there's no tomorrow. They have the largest number of cellular subscribers in the world, how that figure relates to number of computer users I don't know but you can bet it's pretty damn high. FYI The models we use in our configuration are Catalyst 5500's and 7200 routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Scott Sent: 29 April 2002 22:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a good forum [7:42813] gic tony wrote: i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while very good place . tony, just wondering, do you have many cisco routers and switches in China? what models? where are they used? -- This is not a political question, only technical curiosity. -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42876t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a good forum [7:42813]
Because China has 338 CCIEs (more than Canada, Japan, France or Austrilia). I bet they are dealing with Cisco gear. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html By the way, if you think you are Mr. Someone, check out this Chinese guy: http://www.ccie.com.cn/ hahahhahaahha Yoshi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a good forum [7:42813] (Devil's advocate) Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of Cisco gear)? Mike W. Peter van Oene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42946t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a good forum [7:42813]
Canada has 34 million people, China has 1 billion. They should have more CCIE's. I wonder if that guy feels like Mr. Special compared to the guy that I was just reading about on cisco.com who is a quad-ccie and is going for a 5th when the newest track comes out. BTW, Does it make you feel to throw out someone else's achievements and pretend you had something to do with it and laugh at the person you threw them out at? If so, I know a dual ccie who has a doctorate in bimolecular sciences. ahahhahahahahhaha Tim -Original Message- From: supernet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: a good forum [7:42813] Because China has 338 CCIEs (more than Canada, Japan, France or Austrilia). I bet they are dealing with Cisco gear. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html By the way, if you think you are Mr. Someone, check out this Chinese guy: http://www.ccie.com.cn/ hahahhahaahha Yoshi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a good forum [7:42813] (Devil's advocate) Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of Cisco gear)? Mike W. Peter van Oene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42948t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
gic tony wrote: i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while very good place . tony, just wondering, do you have many cisco routers and switches in China? what models? where are they used? -- This is not a political question, only technical curiosity. -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42842t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. At 05:00 PM 4/29/2002 -0400, Tom Scott wrote: gic tony wrote: i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while very good place . tony, just wondering, do you have many cisco routers and switches in China? what models? where are they used? -- This is not a political question, only technical curiosity. -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42845t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
(Devil's advocate) Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of Cisco gear)? Mike W. Peter van Oene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42853t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
(Equally devilish) You could try checking out the Cisco newsroom. Quite a few articles there indicating that China has installed a fair bit of Cisco equipment. JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 30/04/2002 11:25 am - Michael L. Williams Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/04/2002 09:59 am Please respond to Michael L. Williams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: a good forum [7:42813] Is this part of a business decision process?: (Devil's advocate) Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of Cisco gear)? Mike W. Peter van Oene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42863t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a good forum [7:42813]
Isn't China a nuclear power? PA -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams Sent: Mon 4/29/2002 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: a good forum [7:42813] (Devil's advocate) Why can we safely assume that (China has plenty of Cisco gear)? Mike W. Peter van Oene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... him personally, or china in general? you can safely assume that china has plenty of cisco gear. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42864t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
*Welcome* gic tony wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... i am from beijing in china ,just find this forum ,browse for a while very good place . Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42865t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
And that relates to Cisco how? cisco wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Isn't China a nuclear power? PA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42870t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good forum [7:42813]
Perhaps he was planning on upgrading their Nuclear research facilities with Cisco equipment! :-) Theo Michael L. Williams Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/2002 11:49 AM Please respond to Michael L. Williams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: a good forum [7:42813] And that relates to Cisco how? cisco wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Isn't China a nuclear power? PA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42874t=42813 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
