Re: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]

2001-04-30 Thread Edmund Woltynski

It may be that it is actually a 2501 and the serial link is attached to
a terminal adapter (we used to do this with JTEC TA's in them thar good
ole days the micro channel switching type (ts013) in the land of Oz)
which would give the ISDN connectivity. Either way then the answers
below are still valid (ie what Jenny said)

BTW - I wonder when Cisco will finally change its recommended Australian
type to net3/net5 - the ETSI standard. The old switch type is still in
its latest books and manuals - has anyone told the yet?

Take care all - 

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 Doesn't sound like a 2501 to me - they don't have BRI interfaces.  Did you
 mean a 2503?
 
 I'm not quite clear on your setup, but anyway...
 No, you can't use a serial interface to connect to a LAN.
 No, you can't add more LAN interfaces to a 2500 series router.  They are
 fixed config, not modular.
 Can you connect to the 'outside world' using a cross-over cable to a serial
 port in the 'outside world' perhaps?  Or is your 2500 in the outside world?
 
 JMcL
 -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 27/04/2001
 04:26 pm ---
 
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 08:36:49 am
 
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 Subject:  help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]
 
 Hi,
 
 I am setting up a test lab environment for a windows 2000 migration and
 want
 to have access to the outside world, the problem is we have a 2501 router
 which currently has the bri and ethernet interfaces in use, I need another
 ethernet interface for the test LAN, is there anyway I could utilise the
 serial connections for the test LAN? I m guessing that you cant put another
 ethernet card into the router due to the chassy type...i might be
 wrong...help!
 
 cheers in advance
 
 Dan
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RE: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]

2001-04-30 Thread Trevor J Corness, CCNA

There is no such thing as a serial to Ethernet adapter.  It's either 2 IP
addresses to e0, no internet access, another router, or setting up a win2k
box with dual NICs and enabling IP Forwarding (routing).  The only
stipulation is that the one particular Win2k box will be plugged into the
production lan ETHERNET segment.

If finding funding for another router such as a 1005 with a serial and
ethernet interface is nigh on impossible, it may be time to reconsider where
you are working.. especially if it is required to support confidence in the
health state of the production network.  A 1005 shouldn't cost more than
$300USD..  how expensive is an hour of downtime on the production network
worth?  4 hours?  8 hours?  It's simple business politics and accounting..
time to learn how to justify testing gear cost.

Regards,
  Trevor J Corness, CCNA CCDA MCSE MCP+I SCSA SCNA NNCSS
  Network Design Analyst, Advanced Datacom
  BMS Communications Services Ltd.
  http://www.bmscom.com


-Original Message-
From: Dan Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: April 30, 2001 5:06 AM
To: 'Trevor J Corness, CCNA '
Subject: RE: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]


 ok heres another spanner in the works so to speak, how about if I setup one
of my win2k boxes as a router (in the test Lan) and via a couple of serial
to ethernet adapters (with a 10baseT crossover cable in between) connected
it to the serial connection of the cisco router? surely if feesible that
would make more sense than binding two ips to one ethernet card, (basically
i dont want any packets taking a short cut from the test lan to the
production lan) i know this scenario is far fetched but trying to get
funding for such a minor project such as wan traffic is nigh on
impossible!! some people have no idea!!

cheers

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Trevor J Corness, CCNA
To: 'Dan Pearson'
Sent: 29/04/01 18:18
Subject: RE: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]

it is possible, but not advisable in an undetermined lab environment.  A
chattering win2k box could cause problems for your production network.
Given limited resources though, I suppose you could do it.

conf t
int e 0
  ip address 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 (Production Network)
  ip address 192.168.100.0 255.255.255.0 secondary (Win2K Lab)

would be sufficient.  This would also allow ip routing between the Win2k
lab, and the production network.  Running 2 LANs off of 1 segment
though,
you are making all of your production network machines look at the MAC
address broadcasts from your lab.  If both are of a substantial size, it
may
create a performance issue on your production network.  It is really a
design issue.

Regards,
  Trevor J Corness, CCNA
  Network Design Analyst, Advanced Datacom
  BMS Communications Services Ltd.
  http://www.bmscom.com


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Sent: April 29, 2001 12:01 AM
To: 'Trevor J Corness, CCNA'
Subject: RE: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]


thanks for the reply, I wonder is would be possible to run a second ip
off
the ethernet port on my exsisting router (i.e a hub with the connection
to
the company lan and the win2k test lab going into the one ethernet port)
what do you think?

thanks

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-Original Message-
From: Trevor J Corness, CCNA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2001 3:31 AM
To: 'Dan Pearson'
Subject: RE: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]


You can not add any interfaces to an existing 2500-series router..
and
like Jenny said, this sounds more like a 2503.  Another possibility,
would
be to find another 2501/2503 router, use a back-to-back serial, and use
the
ethernet on that router to your lab.  Your lab would look a little like
this:

Outside world
  |
(BRI)
  |
  Cisco 250x -(e0)LAN
   |
  (S0)
   |
  Cisco 250x -(e0)Win2k Lab

Regards,
  Trevor J Corness, CCNA CCDA
  Network Design Analyst, Advanced Datacom
  BMS Communications Services Ltd.
  http://www.bmscom.com

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Dan Pearson
Sent: April 26, 2001 3:37 PM
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Subject: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]


Hi,

I am setting up a test lab environment for a windows 2000 migration and
want
to have access to the outside world, the problem is we have a 2501
router
which currently has the bri and ethernet interfaces in use, I need
another
ethernet interface for the test LAN, is there anyway I could utilise the
serial connections for the test LAN? I m guessing that you cant put
another
ethernet card

Re: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]

2001-04-27 Thread Kevin Wigle

just to stir the pot a little... :-)

He could have a 2524 which has one ethernet port and one ISDN port and then
there are two slots for modules - so one version of 2500 is modular  :-)

Unfortunately they are WAN modules not LAN modules so it still doesn't help
the poster get another ethernet port.

The poster could get an el cheapo 1005 or 3102 from eBay, connect the 2
routers back to back on their serial ports and then have the required
ethernet port.

The only reason I can see for not joining the lab to the present ethernet is
to keep it separate from production facilities.  However, if the lab gets
chatty it could still affect the single router. (which could affect
production)

Anyway, any number of ways to do this from a second router to access lists.

Kevin Wigle

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Subject: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]


 Doesn't sound like a 2501 to me - they don't have BRI interfaces.  Did you
 mean a 2503?

 I'm not quite clear on your setup, but anyway...
 No, you can't use a serial interface to connect to a LAN.
 No, you can't add more LAN interfaces to a 2500 series router.  They are
 fixed config, not modular.
 Can you connect to the 'outside world' using a cross-over cable to a
serial
 port in the 'outside world' perhaps?  Or is your 2500 in the outside
world?

 JMcL
 -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 27/04/2001
 04:26 pm ---


 Dan Pearson @groupstudy.com on 27/04/2001
 08:36:49 am

 Please respond to Dan Pearson

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 Subject:  help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]


 Hi,

 I am setting up a test lab environment for a windows 2000 migration and
 want
 to have access to the outside world, the problem is we have a 2501 router
 which currently has the bri and ethernet interfaces in use, I need another
 ethernet interface for the test LAN, is there anyway I could utilise the
 serial connections for the test LAN? I m guessing that you cant put
another
 ethernet card into the router due to the chassy type...i might be
 wrong...help!

 cheers in advance

 Dan




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Re: help extra ethernet connection for a 2501!! [7:2187]

2001-04-26 Thread Vincent Chong

Hi Dan;

The easiest way is to set up secondary IP address in your Cisco 2501.

I guess your router is Cisco 2503, not 2501, it does not support modular
like cisco 1600, 1700, 2600, 3600 Series, etc.

Hope this help
Vincent Chong

Dan Pearson   Hi,

 I am setting up a test lab environment for a windows 2000 migration and
want
 to have access to the outside world, the problem is we have a 2501 router
 which currently has the bri and ethernet interfaces in use, I need another
 ethernet interface for the test LAN, is there anyway I could utilise the
 serial connections for the test LAN? I m guessing that you cant put
another
 ethernet card into the router due to the chassy type...i might be
 wrong...help!

 cheers in advance

 Dan
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