Re: ospf lsu using 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6 ?

2000-08-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 09:40 AM 8/18/00, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Hi Jason:

When there is a change a router forwards the LSU to the DR of the 
multiaccess network using the OSPF multicast 224.0.0.6. The DR 
acknowledges the receipt of the change and floods the LSU to the 
others int the multiaccess network using the OSPF multicast 
address 224.0.0.5.

Hope this helps,

Carlos Manjarres
CCNA


Yes, this is true, but not the whole story.  As a study topic, why 
doesn't the reporting router send to the unicast address of the DR? 
Multicasts imply that more than one destination will listen.  Who 
else would be interested in this update?  Why?

The backup designated router (BDR) is interested also, in case it 
has to take over for the DR?

Right.  When the BDR hears the update, it starts a timer. If the DR 
doesn't respond when the timer expires, the BDR promotes itself to DR 
and takes over.

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Re: ospf lsu using 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6 ?

2000-08-19 Thread joel.studtmann

reponse in-line.

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 Yes, this is true, but not the whole story.  As a study topic, why
 doesn't the reporting router send to the unicast address of the DR?
 Multicasts imply that more than one destination will listen.  Who
 else would be interested in this update?  Why?

The Backup Designated Router is interested in the update, because it needs
to automatically take over DR duties if the DR fails.  If the OSPF neighbors
were using the DR's IP address (unicast) instead of the multicast address,
they would have to learn the new DR's IP address if the former DR went down.
With multicast, the LSU is just sent to 'All Designated Routers', and the
routers currently designated as DR and BDR respond to the packet.





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Re: ospf lsu using 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6 ?

2000-08-18 Thread Carlos Manjarres

Hi Jason:

When there is a change a router forwards the LSU to the DR of the 
multiaccess network using the OSPF multicast 224.0.0.6. The DR acknowledges 
the receipt of the change and floods the LSU to the others int the 
multiaccess network using the OSPF multicast address 224.0.0.5.

Hope this helps,

Carlos Manjarres
CCNA



From: "Jason" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ospf lsu using 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6 ?
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:12:07 +0800

hi all,

anyone knows why during lsu (link state update) of ospf why the router uses
ip addr 224.0.0.6, I know this is a multi-cast address but in particular
224.0.0.6.


thanks

Jason


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Re: ospf lsu using 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6 ?

2000-08-18 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

hi all,

anyone knows why during lsu (link state update) of ospf why the router uses
ip addr 224.0.0.6, I know this is a multi-cast address but in particular
224.0.0.6.


thanks

Jason




RFC 2328, section A.1, page 184.

Seriously, when you are asking why a protocol does something, the RFC 
is really the first place to go. I didn't know the specific reference 
in the OSPF specification, but a search on 224.0.0.6 quickly found it.

Hint:  OSPF uses two different multicast addresses, and in certain 
circumstances unicast addresses.  The underlying idea is what 
formally is called "scoping".  A broadcast has a scope that includes 
everyone, while an unicast has a scope of one destination.  Think of 
circumstances where it would be reasonable to have multicasts with 
more restricted scope than broadcasts. Think of protocol messages 
that some, not all, OSPF routers need to hear.

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Re: ospf lsu using 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6 ?

2000-08-18 Thread Brian


224.0.0.6 is a Well Known Class D address.  It is for "All OSPF Designated
Routers".

Brian


On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Jason wrote:

 hi all,
 
 anyone knows why during lsu (link state update) of ospf why the router uses
 ip addr 224.0.0.6, I know this is a multi-cast address but in particular
 224.0.0.6.
 
 
 thanks
 
 Jason
 
 
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Re: ospf lsu using 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6 ?

2000-08-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 09:40 AM 8/18/00, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Hi Jason:

When there is a change a router forwards the LSU to the DR of the 
multiaccess network using the OSPF multicast 224.0.0.6. The DR 
acknowledges the receipt of the change and floods the LSU to the others 
int the multiaccess network using the OSPF multicast address 224.0.0.5.

Hope this helps,

Carlos Manjarres
CCNA


Yes, this is true, but not the whole story.  As a study topic, why doesn't 
the reporting router send to the unicast address of the DR? Multicasts 
imply that more than one destination will listen.  Who else would be 
interested in this update?  Why?

The backup designated router (BDR) is interested also, in case it has to 
take over for the DR?


From: "Jason" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Jason" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ospf lsu using 224.0.0.5 and 224.0.0.6 ?
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:12:07 +0800

hi all,

anyone knows why during lsu (link state update) of ospf why the router uses
ip addr 224.0.0.6, I know this is a multi-cast address but in particular
224.0.0.6.


thanks

Jason

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