RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507]
It's been some time ago but last time I went to the web and used one of the comparison calculators for Austin and Dallas I could take a 25% pay cut to live at same standards in Dallas. Austin is historically an overeducated, underpaid economy. Austin promotes the hill country to our west to keep real estate costs high and there are too many colleges and graduating students that tend to stay in the area driving the wages down. Add to that the fact that the IT industry is stale here and not many jobs available. Larry Puckette Network Analyst Temple Inland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/434-1838 Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -Original Message- From: Jeff Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:22 PM To: Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: question to CCIEs [7:48507] Is it that bad compared to Dallas? Reason I ask is I'm originally from D/FW and might have to move to Austin in a year or two. -- Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer CCNP - Cisco Certified Network Professional On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:29:53PM +, Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) wrote: I'm not CCIE but couldn't resist adding Austin to that list of high cost of living cities. :) Larry Puckette Network Analyst Temple Inland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/434-1838 Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -Original Message- From: Brunner Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507] 51K to 75K in Marietta Georgia is like $150K in NYC. I make more than 75K (with no CCIE), and I probably live worse than someone living in GA making 40K (no car, tiny apartment, etc). 51K is my rent... (close). So, until that ad says NYC, SF, SJ CA, Relax ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48584t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question to CCIEs [7:48507]
Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) wrote: It's been some time ago but last time I went to the web and used one of the comparison calculators for Austin and Dallas I could take a 25% pay cut to live at same standards in Dallas. Austin is historically an overeducated, underpaid economy. Austin promotes the hill country to our west to keep real estate costs high and there are too many colleges and graduating students that tend to stay in the area driving the wages down. Add to that the fact that the IT industry is stale here and not many jobs available. Austin sounds a lot like Madison, Wisconsin. We're moving back to that area (WI) in a year or two. Here's hoping it improves. (Anybody there in Madison now? Is there much demand for CCNPs and CCIEs?) -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48595t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question to CCIEs [7:48507]
It's funny you should mention Madison... While I'm originally from D/FW (and looking at Austin) I currently live in Appleton, Wisconsin and was looking at the Madison area for jobs. I didn't find one single recruiter that would call me back. NOT ONE. I must have sent out well over 30 resumes. I'm CCNP certified with 7 years of experience. You would think that I would have got one phone call/email. I don't know what is up with the Madison area. Madison was my wifes first school choice (and she actually got in) but damned if I didn't find any kind of a job that would support us. I finally got some response from a few Dallas companies so I am headed back in that direction for now. Just looking at to the Austin area for the future (as long as she needs to be in school. After the baby. ) Geez. It's a small world. :) -- Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer CCNP - Cisco Certified Network Professional On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 03:37:28PM +, Tom Scott wrote: Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) wrote: It's been some time ago but last time I went to the web and used one of the comparison calculators for Austin and Dallas I could take a 25% pay cut to live at same standards in Dallas. Austin is historically an overeducated, underpaid economy. Austin promotes the hill country to our west to keep real estate costs high and there are too many colleges and graduating students that tend to stay in the area driving the wages down. Add to that the fact that the IT industry is stale here and not many jobs available. Austin sounds a lot like Madison, Wisconsin. We're moving back to that area (WI) in a year or two. Here's hoping it improves. (Anybody there in Madison now? Is there much demand for CCNPs and CCIEs?) -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48602t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507]
I live south of Milwaukee and have been looking for a network engineering position anywhere in WI for about 6 months and Jeff is right. I am CCNP / CCDP certified and have 9 years experience and the recruiters can't seem to manage a callback. The few direct hire positions I have seen are all for NT/mail/SQL admin jobs with a few routers on the side. Things are thin all over it seems. -Original Message- From: Tom Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: question to CCIEs [7:48507] Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) wrote: It's been some time ago but last time I went to the web and used one of the comparison calculators for Austin and Dallas I could take a 25% pay cut to live at same standards in Dallas. Austin is historically an overeducated, underpaid economy. Austin promotes the hill country to our west to keep real estate costs high and there are too many colleges and graduating students that tend to stay in the area driving the wages down. Add to that the fact that the IT industry is stale here and not many jobs available. Austin sounds a lot like Madison, Wisconsin. We're moving back to that area (WI) in a year or two. Here's hoping it improves. (Anybody there in Madison now? Is there much demand for CCNPs and CCIEs?) -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48613t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Madison is not a high tech area so don't count on getting a routing only job. There is about a dozen companies that need a full time engineer and once those jobs are landed they tend to stick. I too am a CCNP/CCDP and have a couple of leads, but it's thin here too. I was stationed outside Austin and its a great place and true to the word, a lot like Madison. Davis, Scott [ISE/RAC] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I live south of Milwaukee and have been looking for a network engineering position anywhere in WI for about 6 months and Jeff is right. I am CCNP / CCDP certified and have 9 years experience and the recruiters can't seem to manage a callback. The few direct hire positions I have seen are all for NT/mail/SQL admin jobs with a few routers on the side. Things are thin all over it seems. -Original Message- From: Tom Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: question to CCIEs [7:48507] Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) wrote: It's been some time ago but last time I went to the web and used one of the comparison calculators for Austin and Dallas I could take a 25% pay cut to live at same standards in Dallas. Austin is historically an overeducated, underpaid economy. Austin promotes the hill country to our west to keep real estate costs high and there are too many colleges and graduating students that tend to stay in the area driving the wages down. Add to that the fact that the IT industry is stale here and not many jobs available. Austin sounds a lot like Madison, Wisconsin. We're moving back to that area (WI) in a year or two. Here's hoping it improves. (Anybody there in Madison now? Is there much demand for CCNPs and CCIEs?) -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48630t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thats why I left austin in 2000...the job market is not good, and the pay is worse. However its a nice town, and as previously mentioned its a university town with more labor than work, which drives the cost down. There weren't many jobs for ccnp types when I left, and I suppose there are none now.. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NetEng Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: question to CCIEs [7:48507] Madison is not a high tech area so don't count on getting a routing only job. There is about a dozen companies that need a full time engineer and once those jobs are landed they tend to stick. I too am a CCNP/CCDP and have a couple of leads, but it's thin here too. I was stationed outside Austin and its a great place and true to the word, a lot like Madison. Davis, Scott [ISE/RAC] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I live south of Milwaukee and have been looking for a network engineering position anywhere in WI for about 6 months and Jeff is right. I am CCNP / CCDP certified and have 9 years experience and the recruiters can't seem to manage a callback. The few direct hire positions I have seen are all for NT/mail/SQL admin jobs with a few routers on the side. Things are thin all over it seems. -Original Message- From: Tom Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: question to CCIEs [7:48507] Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) wrote: It's been some time ago but last time I went to the web and used one of the comparison calculators for Austin and Dallas I could take a 25% pay cut to live at same standards in Dallas. Austin is historically an overeducated, underpaid economy. Austin promotes the hill country to our west to keep real estate costs high and there are too many colleges and graduating students that tend to stay in the area driving the wages down. Add to that the fact that the IT industry is stale here and not many jobs available. Austin sounds a lot like Madison, Wisconsin. We're moving back to that area (WI) in a year or two. Here's hoping it improves. (Anybody there in Madison now? Is there much demand for CCNPs and CCIEs?) -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48637t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507]
Well, did you contact the hiring manager? I'd guess that the base salary is 51-75K but the description says high commissions so depending on the company and it's presence/consistent sales history, that may be a good opportunity - if you like sales. -Original Message- From: supernet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: question to CCIEs [7:48507] Will you consider job like this? Or is the market really this bad? http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=14856363 AVSDM=2002%2D05%2D16+15%3A55%3A00%2E000CCD=my%2Emonster%2EcomJSD=jobs earch%2Emonster%2EcomHD=company%2Emonster%2EcomAD=http%3A%2F%2Fjobsear ch%2Emonster%2Ecom%2Fjobsearch%2Easp%3Fcy%3DUS%26brd%3D1%26q%3Dccie%26so rt%3Drv%26vw%3DbLogo=1col=dltcicy=USbrd=1lid=fn=q=ccie Yoshi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48510t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507]
51K to 75K in Marietta Georgia is like $150K in NYC. I make more than 75K (with no CCIE), and I probably live worse than someone living in GA making 40K (no car, tiny apartment, etc). 51K is my rent... (close). So, until that ad says NYC, SF, SJ CA, Relax ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48508t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507]
I'm not CCIE but couldn't resist adding Austin to that list of high cost of living cities. :) Larry Puckette Network Analyst Temple Inland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/434-1838 Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -Original Message- From: Brunner Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507] 51K to 75K in Marietta Georgia is like $150K in NYC. I make more than 75K (with no CCIE), and I probably live worse than someone living in GA making 40K (no car, tiny apartment, etc). 51K is my rent... (close). So, until that ad says NYC, SF, SJ CA, Relax ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48517t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Is it that bad compared to Dallas? Reason I ask is I'm originally from D/FW and might have to move to Austin in a year or two. -- Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer CCNP - Cisco Certified Network Professional On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:29:53PM +, Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) wrote: I'm not CCIE but couldn't resist adding Austin to that list of high cost of living cities. :) Larry Puckette Network Analyst Temple Inland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/434-1838 Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -Original Message- From: Brunner Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507] 51K to 75K in Marietta Georgia is like $150K in NYC. I make more than 75K (with no CCIE), and I probably live worse than someone living in GA making 40K (no car, tiny apartment, etc). 51K is my rent... (close). So, until that ad says NYC, SF, SJ CA, Relax ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48541t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Its definately pretty high and the IT market is bad right now, slim pickens on the jobs. Chris Jeff Harris wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is it that bad compared to Dallas? Reason I ask is I'm originally from D/FW and might have to move to Austin in a year or two. -- Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer CCNP - Cisco Certified Network Professional On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:29:53PM +, Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) wrote: I'm not CCIE but couldn't resist adding Austin to that list of high cost of living cities. :) Larry Puckette Network Analyst Temple Inland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/434-1838 Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -Original Message- From: Brunner Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: question to CCIEs [7:48507] 51K to 75K in Marietta Georgia is like $150K in NYC. I make more than 75K (with no CCIE), and I probably live worse than someone living in GA making 40K (no car, tiny apartment, etc). 51K is my rent... (close). So, until that ad says NYC, SF, SJ CA, Relax ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48560t=48507 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
