Re: what is the purpose of FECN?

2000-11-22 Thread Marc Giroux

The correct answer is C.
n a link layer network such as Frame Relay, the network sends messages with the forward
explicit congestion notification (FECN) or backwards explicit
congestion notification (BECN) if there is congestion. With the DTS feature, the 
traffic
shaping adaptive mode takes advantage of these signals and adjusts the
traffic descriptors. This approximates the rate to the available bandwidth along the
path.

FECN as use to inform of the available bandwith.

Laurel Redd wrote:

 I would say a
 Morgan

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  Looks like a trick question.
  I would choose answer a.
 
  Answer b corresponds to what is called the BECN.
  The reason that it is a trick question is that the immediate reaction
 would
  be to discard Answer a because FECN is not the only way to tell if a
 packet
  experienced congestion.
 
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  what is the purpose of FECN?
  a.To tell the router that a packet experienced congestion
  b.To tell the router that packets it is sending to a remote site are
  experiencing  congestion
  c.To tell the router that there is bandwidth available
 
 
 
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Re: what is the purpose of FECN?

2000-11-22 Thread tim sullivan

FECN=Bit set by a frame relay network to inform the DTE receiving the frame 
that congestion was experienced in the path from source to dest.DTE 
receiving frame with the FECN bit set can request that  higher level 
protocols take flow control action,as appropriate.
Therefore A would be the coreect ans.
Tim

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The correct answer is C.
n a link layer network such as Frame Relay, the network sends messages with 
the forward
explicit congestion notification (FECN) or backwards explicit
congestion notification (BECN) if there is congestion. With the DTS 
feature, the traffic
shaping adaptive mode takes advantage of these signals and adjusts the
traffic descriptors. This approximates the rate to the available bandwidth 
along the
path.

FECN as use to inform of the available bandwith.

Laurel Redd wrote:

  I would say a
  Morgan
 
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   Looks like a trick question.
   I would choose answer a.
  
   Answer b corresponds to what is called the BECN.
   The reason that it is a trick question is that the immediate reaction
  would
   be to discard Answer a because FECN is not the only way to tell if a
  packet
   experienced congestion.
  
   Winston.
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   what is the purpose of FECN?
   a.To tell the router that a packet experienced congestion
   b.To tell the router that packets it is sending to a remote site are
   experiencing  congestion
   c.To tell the router that there is bandwidth available
  
  
  
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Re: what is the purpose of FECN?(all wrong)

2000-11-22 Thread NeoLink2000
Hey group,
 Just to be technical: I would say that they are all wrong. It's not the "packets" experience congestion as the answers say, it's the links that do. Just a thought.

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what is the purpose of FECN?
   a.To tell the router that a packet experienced congestion
   b.To tell the router that packets it is sending to a remote site are
   experiencing congestion
   c.To tell the router that there is bandwidth available







Re: what is the purpose of FECN?

2000-11-21 Thread Laurel Redd

I would say a
Morgan

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 Looks like a trick question.
 I would choose answer a.

 Answer b corresponds to what is called the BECN.
 The reason that it is a trick question is that the immediate reaction
would
 be to discard Answer a because FECN is not the only way to tell if a
packet
 experienced congestion.

 Winston.
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 Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 10:39 AM
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 Subject: what is the purpose of FECN?


 what is the purpose of FECN?
 a.To tell the router that a packet experienced congestion
 b.To tell the router that packets it is sending to a remote site are
 experiencing  congestion
 c.To tell the router that there is bandwidth available



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RE: what is the purpose of FECN?

2000-11-20 Thread Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor

Isn't it that " the path the packet IS GOING TO TAKE to get to the
destination is experiencing congestion?"

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The "F" in FECN means forward, so I choose "a."

The packet arrives at the dest, notifying the dest that it experienced
congestion along the way, so that rules out "b." Which is actually the
correct answer if the question were "What is the purpose of BECN"

"c." is not a function of FECN nor BECN.

Sure wish "the router" was defined ;-) but this does keep it realistic ;-)

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 a.To tell the router that a packet experienced congestion
 b.To tell the router that packets it is sending to a remote site are
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RE: what is the purpose of FECN?

2000-11-19 Thread Timothy Metz

The "F" in FECN means forward, so I choose "a."

The packet arrives at the dest, notifying the dest that it experienced
congestion along the way, so that rules out "b." Which is actually the
correct answer if the question were "What is the purpose of BECN"

"c." is not a function of FECN nor BECN.

Sure wish "the router" was defined ;-) but this does keep it realistic ;-)

Tim


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RE: what is the purpose of FECN?

2000-11-19 Thread Gordon Olson

I believe the answer is "B".  FECN is  bit set by a frame-relay network to
inform the DTE receiving the frame that congestion was experienced in the
path from Source to Destination.

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b.To tell the router that packets it is sending to a remote site are
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RE: what is the purpose of FECN?

2000-11-19 Thread Shaw, Winston Mr.

Looks like a trick question.
I would choose answer a.

Answer b corresponds to what is called the BECN.
The reason that it is a trick question is that the immediate reaction would
be to discard Answer a because FECN is not the only way to tell if a packet
experienced congestion.

Winston.
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what is the purpose of FECN?
a.To tell the router that a packet experienced congestion
b.To tell the router that packets it is sending to a remote site are
experiencing  congestion
c.To tell the router that there is bandwidth available



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Re: what is the purpose of FECN?

2000-11-19 Thread ciscolab

FECN - Forward Explicit Congestion Notification
This is a bit within the address field which notifies the receiving device
that the network is experiencing congestion.
The end device (ie., router, FRAD etc.) is informed that congestion was
experienced on route...subsequent packets could be delayed, discarded or
even damaged.

The end device *should* take remedial action to adjust to the new
transmission environment, from the source...ie., inform the source to
"throttle-back".
This is achieved by using a complimentary bit field in the address
field...BECN (Backward Explicit Congestion Notification)...in packets sent
to the source router/FRAD.

In the real world, what tends to happen, is that there is no way traffic
from upstream hosts (ie., PC's, servers etc.) can be slowed down to the
router/FRAD.
Increasing the size of the buffers (ie., memory) at the source router helps,
but this is useless in the face of severe packet loss to the destination.

Hence, the concept of "Becky and Fecky" can only be really used to detect
congestion, by setting SNMP trap conditions, not give *real*
throttle-control, as
the text books would describe!

Without a though the answers: A

Regards,
Serge :)


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 Looks like a trick question.
 I would choose answer a.

 Answer b corresponds to what is called the BECN.
 The reason that it is a trick question is that the immediate reaction
would
 be to discard Answer a because FECN is not the only way to tell if a
packet
 experienced congestion.

 Winston.
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 From: cslx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 10:39 AM
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 Subject: what is the purpose of FECN?


 what is the purpose of FECN?
 a.To tell the router that a packet experienced congestion
 b.To tell the router that packets it is sending to a remote site are
 experiencing  congestion
 c.To tell the router that there is bandwidth available



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