Recent CID takers pls comment

2001-02-07 Thread Mongol Blizzard

Hi
I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !!
I was told a month back that it was 100 questions.
Pls clarify.
(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.)
regards
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Re: Recent CID takers pls comment

2001-02-07 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hi
I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !!
I was told a month back that it was 100 questions.
Pls clarify.
(Hope those boring scenarios are not there.)
regards


Why are scenarios boring?  Aren't those the principal things you will 
deal with as a real-world designer?

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Re: Recent CID takers pls comment

2001-02-07 Thread John Neiberger

I'm definitely with Howard on this one.  I plan on taking the CID within a month and I 
would expect scenarios to be on the test.  How else would you really test design 
skills?

I'm more worried that the test is just a bad test overall.  I don't think I've read a 
single good thing about any version of it.  Perhaps I'll wait until the newest release 
is out and I've heard some comment on that before I take it.

If Cisco would bother to actually read the comments that people make on beta tests, 
perhaps they could come up with a solid design exam.

 
 Hi
 I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !!
 I was told a month back that it was 100 questions.
 Pls clarify.
 (Hope those boring scenarios are not there.)
 regards
 
 
 Why are scenarios boring?  Aren't those the principal things you will 
 deal with as a real-world designer?
 
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Re: Recent CID takers pls comment

2001-02-07 Thread Craig Columbus

While scenarios can be interesting, don't expect any on CID 3.0.  It's not 
a very well written test, but it's certainly passable if you know the 
material on the review guide.

Craig

At 08:24 AM 2/7/2001 -0800, you wrote:
I'm definitely with Howard on this one.  I plan on taking the CID within a 
month and I would expect scenarios to be on the test.  How else would you 
really test design skills?

I'm more worried that the test is just a bad test overall.  I don't think 
I've read a single good thing about any version of it.  Perhaps I'll wait 
until the newest release is out and I've heard some comment on that before 
I take it.

If Cisco would bother to actually read the comments that people make on 
beta tests, perhaps they could come up with a solid design exam.

 
  Hi
  I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !!
  I was told a month back that it was 100 questions.
  Pls clarify.
  (Hope those boring scenarios are not there.)
  regards
 
 
  Why are scenarios boring?  Aren't those the principal things you will
  deal with as a real-world designer?
 
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Re: Recent CID takers pls comment

2001-02-07 Thread Robert Padjen

The DCN (CCDA) exam has scenarios akin to Microsoft's
exams. The CID (CCDP) exam does not and will likely
never have such a presentation. This is an interesting
challenge as noted below as the test cannot fully
address design.


--- Craig Columbus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 While scenarios can be interesting, don't expect any
 on CID 3.0.  It's not 
 a very well written test, but it's certainly
 passable if you know the 
 material on the review guide.
 
 Craig
 
 At 08:24 AM 2/7/2001 -0800, you wrote:
 I'm definitely with Howard on this one.  I plan on
 taking the CID within a 
 month and I would expect scenarios to be on the
 test.  How else would you 
 really test design skills?
 
 I'm more worried that the test is just a bad test
 overall.  I don't think 
 I've read a single good thing about any version of
 it.  Perhaps I'll wait 
 until the newest release is out and I've heard some
 comment on that before 
 I take it.
 
 If Cisco would bother to actually read the comments
 that people make on 
 beta tests, perhaps they could come up with a solid
 design exam.
 
  
   Hi
   I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200
 questions in 120 mins !!
   I was told a month back that it was 100
 questions.
   Pls clarify.
   (Hope those boring scenarios are not there.)
   regards
  
  
   Why are scenarios boring?  Aren't those the
 principal things you will
   deal with as a real-world designer?
  
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Re: Recent CID takers pls comment

2001-02-07 Thread sougata maitra

they were boring because the questions asked had
little or "nitwit" relevance to what the companies
wanted to do.
in my opinion a ccda exam shd have had better and
interesting scenarios.
regards
mongol

--- "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200
 questions in 120 mins !!
 I was told a month back that it was 100 questions.
 Pls clarify.
 (Hope those boring scenarios are not there.)
 regards
 
 
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Re: Recent CID takers pls comment

2001-02-07 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

they were boring because the questions asked had
little or "nitwit" relevance to what the companies
wanted to do.
in my opinion a ccda exam shd have had better and
interesting scenarios.
regards
mongol


That's a valid observation.

Let me offer a bit of perspective on nitwit-ism in the real world. 
When I taught the design/technical track of Cisco University (a 
program for resellers), all three tracks (design, sales, and 
operations) met as a group, then split up.  We usually left the 
design track in the original room.

I'd often start out by asking, "Anyone here from sales?"

And someone would raise their hand.

I'd respond.  "Thank you. I'll speak slowly."

Especially in a reseller context, you will often have to respond to 
scenarios in which you can only moan to the sales rep, "you sold them 
WHAAAT? And you want WHO to make it work?"

There's a whole art to responding to bad specifications with systems 
that inflict minimal pain. Mind you, I don't think the design cert 
exams are this subtle, but a good CID class will get into how you 
manage customer expectations and respond to poor specifications.


--- "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi
  I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200
  questions in 120 mins !!
  I was told a month back that it was 100 questions.
  Pls clarify.
  (Hope those boring scenarios are not there.)
  regards


  Why are scenarios boring?  Aren't those the
  principal things you will
  deal with as a real-world designer?

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