Re: SPAN and slammer [7:62917]

2003-02-12 Thread Bob Sinclair
John,

It looks like you need the "monitor session" command on this box.  Check
this out in the command reference.

HTH,


-Bob Sinclair
CCIE #10427, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Networking For Future, Inc.
www.nffinc.com
- Original Message -
From: "John Brandis" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:56 PM
Subject: SPAN and slammer [7:62917]


> Hi All,
>
> Have a 4006 in place here using Version 12.1(12c)EW as my core switch.
> Yesterday had fun with Slammer, and last night also. I wanted to use the
> SPAN so I could mirror the data from one port to my snort box so I could
> verify to the sys-admins that it was slammer (they said it would never
> happen here). However, noticed that this command was not available on this
> IOS. I had to revert back to a hub scenario between my switch and firewall
> to see what was going on.
>
> My question is, how do you people monitor this without using SPAN, and
also,
> how do you implement security on a per port basis (such as denying hubs on
> your network)
>
> PS: Any one ever used a tap here, and if so, how did it fit into your
> switched network.
>
> Thanks all
>
> John
>
>
>
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RE: SPAN and slammer [7:62917]

2003-02-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Hey, you can't expect Cisco to be consistent, can you? :-)

It looks like on the 4000 the SPAN command is "monitor session." See here:

ww.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat4000/12_1_14/config/span.htm

Although I understand the gist of your question about port security and hope
somebody answers it, I just wanted to mention that you can't recognize that
a hub has been inserted. It's just a physical-layer device. It doesn't send
frames, just bits. It doesn't have a MAC address. (If it's a managed hub and
needs to send management data, then it does have a MAC address, and then you
could identify it was there if it happened to send some management data.)

Sniffing on switched networks is problematic. I think, strange though it
might sound, it's rather common to insert a hub in order to use an analyzer
or IDS. It's a shame, though, because you have to set the endpoints to half
duplex and risk performance and, worse, auto-negotiation problems.

Of course, getting SPAN to work is preferable, but as you noticed, that can
be problematic too!

Priscilla

John Brandis wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> Have a 4006 in place here using Version 12.1(12c)EW as my core
> switch.
> Yesterday had fun with Slammer, and last night also. I wanted
> to use the
> SPAN so I could mirror the data from one port to my snort box
> so I could
> verify to the sys-admins that it was slammer (they said it
> would never
> happen here). However, noticed that this command was not
> available on this
> IOS. I had to revert back to a hub scenario between my switch
> and firewall
> to see what was going on.
>  
> My question is, how do you people monitor this without using
> SPAN, and also,
> how do you implement security on a per port basis (such as
> denying hubs on
> your network)
>  
> PS: Any one ever used a tap here, and if so, how did it fit
> into your
> switched network.
>  
> Thanks all
>  
> John
>  
> 
> 
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SPAN and slammer [7:62917]

2003-02-12 Thread John Brandis
Hi All,
 
Have a 4006 in place here using Version 12.1(12c)EW as my core switch.
Yesterday had fun with Slammer, and last night also. I wanted to use the
SPAN so I could mirror the data from one port to my snort box so I could
verify to the sys-admins that it was slammer (they said it would never
happen here). However, noticed that this command was not available on this
IOS. I had to revert back to a hub scenario between my switch and firewall
to see what was going on.
 
My question is, how do you people monitor this without using SPAN, and also,
how do you implement security on a per port basis (such as denying hubs on
your network)
 
PS: Any one ever used a tap here, and if so, how did it fit into your
switched network.
 
Thanks all
 
John
 


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