Re: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-18 Thread Gareth Hinton

Hi Tony / All,

I've been having a think about this and not really got an answer yet, but a
little info from some traces.
I've attached two 2500 router ethernets directly (crossover) and they act as
previously described. i.e. One response, one failed, one response, one
failed, on the final destination router.
I connected a hub in between and put a sniffer on.


CiscoA sends a UDP packet to CiscoB with destination port 33434 and gets a
response, so immediately
sends another UDP packet with destination port 33435. This time there is no
response, even though it waits 3 seconds for it.
CiscoA then sends the third UDP packet with destination port 33436 and gets
a response.

This seems to point at some sort of time out on the destination router,
rather than the fact that the port may not be responding. It is after all a
different port each time, and the port is not responding anyway.

To test the timeout, I copied the packet sent from CiscoA, and generated it
at varying intervals from my laptop.
Round about 500ms seems to be the cut off. If I put a delay of 500ms, all
packets are replied to.
If I put a delay of 450ms, every other packet is not replied to.
As the round trip time is around 1ms, this should be fairly accurate.

The extended trace does not seem to give the option of send delay. It only
seems to allow a timeout value (which is what is allowing alternate
replies).
I have not been able to find any configurable value for any kind of hold
down time for ICMP port unreachable. I am guessing that this is some sort of
DOS attack prevention method?

Incidentally, the problem is the same for ICMP Host Unreachable responses.
The ICMP TTL exceeded in transit response does not seem to have the same
hold down time, which explains why all but the final router give full
responses.



Does anybody know what this timer is, and whether it can/should be
changed???

As far as I am concerned, if I can confirm that this is what's really
happening, I'm happy to leave it be.


Thanks,

Gaz








Tony van Ree  wrote in message
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 Hi,

 This is Normal behavior.  The device exists the port does not.

 On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 09:43:11 AM, Hire. Ejay wrote:

  Pardon my ignorance, but would you happen to be using unnumbered
interfaces
  to connect theses routers?
 
  -E
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joseph Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:24 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]
 
 
  This problem shows up on any cisco router that I have tried, about 20
  routers. It appears from a debug packet and debug icmp on the final
  destination router that the final destination router still has the port
 open
  while it is handling the previous trace probe.  I want to know if anyone
 can
  get this to work correctly and if not where is this normal error
indication
  documented.  Following is a trace with a probe count of 15.  I have
 included
  the debug output from the destination router.
 
  termsvr#trace
  Protocol [ip]:
  Target IP address: 192.168.10.2
  Source address:
  Numeric display [n]:
  Timeout in seconds [3]:
  Probe count [3]: 15
  Minimum Time to Live [1]:
  Maximum Time to Live [30]:
  Port Number [33434]:
  Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
  Type escape sequence to abort.
  Tracing the route to 192.168.10.2
 
1 192.168.10.2 16 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *
20
  msec
  *  20 msec *  20 msec
  termsvr#
 
 
  Result of debug packet and ICMP on 192.168.10.2
 
  01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:14: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
  01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
  sending
  01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:17: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
  01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
  sending
  01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:20: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
  01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
  sending
  01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:23: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
  01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
  sending
  01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
  01:26:26: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
  01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (l

Re: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-18 Thread Gareth Hinton

Found the explanation eventually. I'm quite chuffed with how close I got to
it. Unusual I know. Maybe I'm learning this Cisco stuff, but probably just
lucky.
There is a rate limit on replies of ICMP port unreachable of 500ms for
prevention of DOS attacks.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/traceroute.shtml#unreach

Quite a handy URL for Traceroute in general.


Gaz


Gareth Hinton  wrote in message
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 Hi Tony / All,

 I've been having a think about this and not really got an answer yet, but
a
 little info from some traces.
 I've attached two 2500 router ethernets directly (crossover) and they act
as
 previously described. i.e. One response, one failed, one response, one
 failed, on the final destination router.
 I connected a hub in between and put a sniffer on.


 CiscoA sends a UDP packet to CiscoB with destination port 33434 and gets a
 response, so immediately
 sends another UDP packet with destination port 33435. This time there is
no
 response, even though it waits 3 seconds for it.
 CiscoA then sends the third UDP packet with destination port 33436 and
gets
 a response.

 This seems to point at some sort of time out on the destination router,
 rather than the fact that the port may not be responding. It is after all
a
 different port each time, and the port is not responding anyway.

 To test the timeout, I copied the packet sent from CiscoA, and generated
it
 at varying intervals from my laptop.
 Round about 500ms seems to be the cut off. If I put a delay of 500ms, all
 packets are replied to.
 If I put a delay of 450ms, every other packet is not replied to.
 As the round trip time is around 1ms, this should be fairly accurate.

 The extended trace does not seem to give the option of send delay. It only
 seems to allow a timeout value (which is what is allowing alternate
 replies).
 I have not been able to find any configurable value for any kind of hold
 down time for ICMP port unreachable. I am guessing that this is some sort
of
 DOS attack prevention method?

 Incidentally, the problem is the same for ICMP Host Unreachable responses.
 The ICMP TTL exceeded in transit response does not seem to have the same
 hold down time, which explains why all but the final router give full
 responses.



 Does anybody know what this timer is, and whether it can/should be
 changed???

 As far as I am concerned, if I can confirm that this is what's really
 happening, I'm happy to leave it be.


 Thanks,

 Gaz








 Tony van Ree  wrote in message
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  Hi,
 
  This is Normal behavior.  The device exists the port does not.
 
  On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 09:43:11 AM, Hire. Ejay wrote:
 
   Pardon my ignorance, but would you happen to be using unnumbered
 interfaces
   to connect theses routers?
  
   -E
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Joseph Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:24 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]
  
  
   This problem shows up on any cisco router that I have tried, about 20
   routers. It appears from a debug packet and debug icmp on the final
   destination router that the final destination router still has the
port
  open
   while it is handling the previous trace probe.  I want to know if
anyone
  can
   get this to work correctly and if not where is this normal error
 indication
   documented.  Following is a trace with a probe count of 15.  I have
  included
   the debug output from the destination router.
  
   termsvr#trace
   Protocol [ip]:
   Target IP address: 192.168.10.2
   Source address:
   Numeric display [n]:
   Timeout in seconds [3]:
   Probe count [3]: 15
   Minimum Time to Live [1]:
   Maximum Time to Live [30]:
   Port Number [33434]:
   Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
   Type escape sequence to abort.
   Tracing the route to 192.168.10.2
  
 1 192.168.10.2 16 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *
 20
   msec
   *  20 msec *  20 msec
   termsvr#
  
  
   Result of debug packet and ICMP on 192.168.10.2
  
   01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
   01:26:14: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to
192.168.10.1
   01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len
56,
   sending
   01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
   01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
   01:26:17: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to
192.168.10.1
   01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len
56,
   sending
   01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
   01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
   01:26:20: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to
192.168.10.1
   01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len
56,
   sen

RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-15 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

This is Normal behavior.  The device exists the port does not.

On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 09:43:11 AM, Hire. Ejay wrote:

 Pardon my ignorance, but would you happen to be using unnumbered interfaces
 to connect theses routers?
 
 -E
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]
 
 
 This problem shows up on any cisco router that I have tried, about 20
 routers. It appears from a debug packet and debug icmp on the final
 destination router that the final destination router still has the port
open
 while it is handling the previous trace probe.  I want to know if anyone
can
 get this to work correctly and if not where is this normal error indication
 documented.  Following is a trace with a probe count of 15.  I have
included
 the debug output from the destination router.
 
 termsvr#trace
 Protocol [ip]:
 Target IP address: 192.168.10.2
 Source address:
 Numeric display [n]:
 Timeout in seconds [3]:
 Probe count [3]: 15
 Minimum Time to Live [1]:
 Maximum Time to Live [30]:
 Port Number [33434]:
 Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to 192.168.10.2
 
   1 192.168.10.2 16 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20
 msec
 *  20 msec *  20 msec
 termsvr#  
 
 
 Result of debug packet and ICMP on 192.168.10.2
 
 01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:14: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
 01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
 sending
 01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:17: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
 01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
 sending
 01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:20: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
 01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
 sending
 01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:23: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
 01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
 sending
 01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:26: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
 01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
 sending
 01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:29: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
 01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
 sending
 01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:32: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
 01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
 sending
 01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:35: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
 01:26:35: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
 01:26:35: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
 sending
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RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-13 Thread Hire, Ejay

Pardon my ignorance, but would you happen to be using unnumbered interfaces
to connect theses routers?

-E

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]


This problem shows up on any cisco router that I have tried, about 20
routers. It appears from a debug packet and debug icmp on the final
destination router that the final destination router still has the port open
while it is handling the previous trace probe.  I want to know if anyone can
get this to work correctly and if not where is this normal error indication
documented.  Following is a trace with a probe count of 15.  I have included
the debug output from the destination router.

termsvr#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.2
Source address:
Numeric display [n]:
Timeout in seconds [3]:
Probe count [3]: 15
Minimum Time to Live [1]:
Maximum Time to Live [30]:
Port Number [33434]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 192.168.10.2

  1 192.168.10.2 16 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20
msec
*  20 msec *  20 msec
termsvr#  


Result of debug packet and ICMP on 192.168.10.2

01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:14: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:17: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:20: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:23: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:26: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:29: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:32: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:35: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:35: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:35: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
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Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread JHIGGINS

When I trace from a cisco router to another Cisco router I get a timeout
failure every other probe on the last hop  It fails on every type of
cisco router I have tried, 7513,25xx abd 36xx.  I think that it must be
normal but I cannot find anything in the archives here or at the Cisco
site that says it is normal? See following where I do a trace between
two routers on connected interfaces.

 *  4 msec *  4 msec *  8 msec *  8 msec
r1#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
Source address: 192.168.10.1
% Invalid source address
r1#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
Source address: 192.168.10.2
Numeric display [n]:
Timeout in seconds [3]:
Probe count [3]: 15
Minimum Time to Live [1]:
Maximum Time to Live [30]:
Port Number [33434]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 192.168.10.1

  1 192.168.10.1 4 msec 4 msec *  8 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec
*  8 msec
 *  4 msec *
r1#




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Re: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Have you checked duplex?  Sometimes speed and duplex settings have a similar
effect.  Things seem to work properly, but you are dropping packets which
slows the application down.  Obviously if you have one end at 10 and the
other is at 100, you will run into major issues, but sometimes
autonegotiation is flakey.  If you are using auto on both devices, check the
interface for speed and duplex it auto'd to.

If this is across a serial link, what is the bandwidth?

Also, is this a core router that stays fairly busy?  what is it's
utilization?  Sometimes routers will drop pings if they are busy.

-Patrick

 JHIGGINS  07/12/01 04:01PM 
When I trace from a cisco router to another Cisco router I get a timeout
failure every other probe on the last hop  It fails on every type of
cisco router I have tried, 7513,25xx abd 36xx.  I think that it must be
normal but I cannot find anything in the archives here or at the Cisco
site that says it is normal? See following where I do a trace between
two routers on connected interfaces.

 *  4 msec *  4 msec *  8 msec *  8 msec
r1#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
Source address: 192.168.10.1
% Invalid source address
r1#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
Source address: 192.168.10.2
Numeric display [n]:
Timeout in seconds [3]:
Probe count [3]: 15
Minimum Time to Live [1]:
Maximum Time to Live [30]:
Port Number [33434]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 192.168.10.1

  1 192.168.10.1 4 msec 4 msec *  8 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec
*  8 msec
 *  4 msec *
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Re: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

I think you'll find this is quite normal.  

The device exist #msecs , port non-existent *, device exists #msecs
and so on.

Basically the device exists but the socket you are attempting is not open. 
Spot on trace I'd say

Just a thoought

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia




On Thursday, July 12, 2001 at 04:19:43 PM, Patrick Ramsey wrote:

 Have you checked duplex?  Sometimes speed and duplex settings have a
similar
 effect.  Things seem to work properly, but you are dropping packets which
 slows the application down.  Obviously if you have one end at 10 and the
 other is at 100, you will run into major issues, but sometimes
 autonegotiation is flakey.  If you are using auto on both devices, check
the
 interface for speed and duplex it auto'd to.
 
 If this is across a serial link, what is the bandwidth?
 
 Also, is this a core router that stays fairly busy?  what is it's
 utilization?  Sometimes routers will drop pings if they are busy.
 
 -Patrick
 
  JHIGGINS  07/12/01 04:01PM 
 When I trace from a cisco router to another Cisco router I get a timeout
 failure every other probe on the last hop  It fails on every type of
 cisco router I have tried, 7513,25xx abd 36xx.  I think that it must be
 normal but I cannot find anything in the archives here or at the Cisco
 site that says it is normal? See following where I do a trace between
 two routers on connected interfaces.
 
  *  4 msec *  4 msec *  8 msec *  8 msec
 r1#trace
 Protocol [ip]:
 Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
 Source address: 192.168.10.1
 % Invalid source address
 r1#trace
 Protocol [ip]:
 Target IP address: 192.168.10.1
 Source address: 192.168.10.2
 Numeric display [n]:
 Timeout in seconds [3]:
 Probe count [3]: 15
 Minimum Time to Live [1]:
 Maximum Time to Live [30]:
 Port Number [33434]:
 Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to 192.168.10.1
 
   1 192.168.10.1 4 msec 4 msec *  8 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec *  4 msec
 *  8 msec
  *  4 msec *
 r1#
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RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread Joseph Higgins

This problem shows up on any cisco router that I have tried, about 20
routers. It appears from a debug packet and debug icmp on the final
destination router that the final destination router still has the port open
while it is handling the previous trace probe.  I want to know if anyone can
get this to work correctly and if not where is this normal error indication
documented.  Following is a trace with a probe count of 15.  I have included
the debug output from the destination router.

termsvr#trace
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 192.168.10.2
Source address:
Numeric display [n]:
Timeout in seconds [3]:
Probe count [3]: 15
Minimum Time to Live [1]:
Maximum Time to Live [30]:
Port Number [33434]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 192.168.10.2

  1 192.168.10.2 16 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20 msec *  20
msec
*  20 msec *  20 msec
termsvr#  


Result of debug packet and ICMP on 192.168.10.2

01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:14: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:14: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:17: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:17: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:20: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:20: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:23: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:23: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:26: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:26: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:29: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:29: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:32: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
01:26:32: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:35: IP: s=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), d=192.168.10.2, len 28, rcvd 0
01:26:35: ICMP: dst (192.168.10.2) port unreachable sent to 192.168.10.1
01:26:35: IP: s=192.168.10.2 (local), d=192.168.10.1 (Serial0), len 56,
sending
r1#


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RE: Trace failure indication [7:12191]

2001-07-12 Thread Joseph Higgins

Even the example at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/ext_ping_trace.html
shows this failure but provides no explanation.


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