RE: Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread Art Davis

QoS Device Manager (QDM) is a great tool (small java applet) for this.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/qdm/
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/nemnsw/qodvmn/prodlit/qdm_ds.htm

Requires 12.1(5)T or later on your 2600, as it uses CEF & NBAR.

Art Davis
CCIE #6430


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RE: Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread Brunner Joseph

you can block kazaa, etc with a simple access list.. all those
fast track network front end clients (kazaa, grokster, etc)
work on tcp/1214

so for me it would be

access-list 101 deny tcp any any eq 1214
access-list 101 permit ip any any


keep adding access-list 101 deny * * eq  as you find new
programs or services the students run to.

I would also put the students in a different ip range (private, public
whatever) than the staff, and deploy traffic shaping.. then
i would limit the students to a fair amount of bandwidth maximum
per second, say 786Kbps, or you can use car
which will make sure the teachers' ip block always get through.
research QOS on cisco's site for this.


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RE: Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread John Neiberger

I would suggest a rate-limiting device like that available from
Packeteer.  It allows you to rate-limit certain classes of traffic
without changing your router configuration.  It might work really well
for this situation.  You might also try CAR on the incoming interfaces.

This is made more difficult because you don't have a good way to
influence which T1 incoming traffic arrives on.  Sure, you can
load-balance outgoing requests for content but those don't use up much
bandwidth.  It's the incoming traffic that gets you and that's the
hardest to influence.

If you're running BGP, you can advertise the student network addresses
out one interface while advertising the admin staff addresses out the
other.  If you then advertise the aggregate out both links you'll have a
failover should problems arise.  This isn't perfect but it might help. 
You might end up needing to take several different smaller steps in
order to alleviate the problem.

HTH,
John

>>> Chris Sweeting  8/19/02 2:10:33 PM >>>
We have student sharing internet access with our adminstrative staff
and the
the students are down loading mp3's from the internet.  The first thing
we
are trying to to is to route the traffic through different interface.
Well
the root of  problems is the mp3 down load from Kazzar napster etc .
any
suggestion 





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Policy-based routing would allow you to accomplish this goal.  Look up
PBR on CCO to get configuration details.  Something like this would be
easy to setup.

One question:  what specifically are you load-balancing?  Web servers
offering up content to outside users, or internal users accessing web
servers on the outside?  If it's the former then you might have some
success; if it's the latter then it's almost pointless because the
greatest amount of traffic would be incoming, not outgoing, and you
have
no control over that.

Regardless, depending on what you're actually trying to accomplish,
PBR
may not be the best tool.  We'd need more details to give a better
answer.

Regards,
John

>>> "Chris Sweeting"  8/19/02 1:51:57 PM >>>
I have 2 T1 going to the Internet on a 2600 Cisco.  I want to load
balance
in a way that a certain range go out one port and another range go out
another port. Any suggestions




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Re: Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread John Neiberger

Policy-based routing would allow you to accomplish this goal.  Look up
PBR on CCO to get configuration details.  Something like this would be
easy to setup.

One question:  what specifically are you load-balancing?  Web servers
offering up content to outside users, or internal users accessing web
servers on the outside?  If it's the former then you might have some
success; if it's the latter then it's almost pointless because the
greatest amount of traffic would be incoming, not outgoing, and you have
no control over that.

Regardless, depending on what you're actually trying to accomplish, PBR
may not be the best tool.  We'd need more details to give a better
answer.

Regards,
John

>>> "Chris Sweeting"  8/19/02 1:51:57 PM >>>
I have 2 T1 going to the Internet on a 2600 Cisco.  I want to load
balance
in a way that a certain range go out one port and another range go out
another port. Any suggestions




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Trafic Shaping [7:51661]

2002-08-19 Thread Chris Sweeting

I have 2 T1 going to the Internet on a 2600 Cisco.  I want to load balance
in a way that a certain range go out one port and another range go out
another port. Any suggestions




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