RE: VPN Concetrator #3030 [7:58982]

2003-01-21 Thread mjans001
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There is like a failover setting in the 3002 hardware client. The software
client needs to dial in again, the second/backup ip.

Martijn

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Onderwerp: VPN Concetrator #3030 [7:58982]


Hi All,

Few questions regarding the VPN Concentrator

1. what do I do for Redundancy, ( VPN Redundant Bundle)
2. Load balancing
3. Where to put the Concentrator ( prefer putting the VPN Concetrator behind
Firewall).What are issues I will have to consider if I put the concentrator
behind Firewall.

Thanks,

Sunil
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RE: VPN Concetrator #3030 [7:58982]

2002-12-11 Thread Joseph Brunner
Responses in line

1. what do I do for Redundancy, ( VPN Redundant Bundle) 

It runs VRRP for concentrator redundancy. For user sessions you 
make a cluster using VCA under

"Configuration | System | Load Balancing".

For redundancy on LAN to LAN tunnels its much harder..

They way the concentrator does lan to lan, you have to configure
the lan to lan tunnel with the IP of who the peer is going to be
speaking to. Also the VRRP master IP MUST be the main concentrators,
ip's. This means you need to take the backup concentrator offline (the vrrp
slave), change its ip's to the primaries, and configure the lan to lan rules
WHILE its using the master's IPs. This is so it will have a correct SA
database stored in its config. You then change its ip's back to the ones it
uses while its a backup. Put in back online with the different ip's and
continue vrrp.

Just be careful not to change any lan to lan configs while the slave is
using its main ip's.  When the primary fails the slave assumes the master's
ips for ipsec related protocols. http admin still works using the slave
ip's. I wish cisco would come up with a way to replicate the config over the
wire ?

Any one from cisco care to join in

2. Load balancing 

See above.

3. Where to put the Concentrator ( prefer putting the VPN Concetrator behind 
Firewall).What are issues I will have to consider if I put the concentrator 
behind Firewall. 

You can do either. If its behind a firewall you need to open

IP Protocol 50 (ESP) and UDP port 1 (IPSEC/UDP). This is what the
concentrator needs out of the box. You may also need to open TCP ports, if
you run IPSEC/TCP for your pat users. I would put the
concentrator behind the fw, for protection from dos attacks and similar
stuff that is possible. One caveat is to make sure
you dont run nat on the VPN concentrator (i.e. use public ip's behind your
FW) the concentrator DOES NOT like double nat, even with the new 3.6 Code
which supposedly provides "IPSec over NAT-T".

Tested it, still works best with public IP's everywhere.. Maybe pat at the
remote side.

Thanks, 



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RE: VPN Concetrator #3030 [7:58982]

2002-12-11 Thread Elijah Savage III
I have just finished a project like this. You can only do one or the
other you can't do redundant and load balancing all at once on the 3030.
If you want to be redundant where if one concentrator fails secondary
comes online and accepts request for it then you need to look into VRRP
so easy to do on the concentrator. If you want to do load balancing then
you will need to go to configuration, system, load balancing page on the
concentrator and set those options real easy also but Cisco has tons of
docs on CCO explaining it if you are not familiar. Now in load balancing
mode it is sort of redundant, because what happens; based on cpu usage
of your concentrators you have a master and slave the master will send a
redirect to the client and tells the client which concentrator to
connect to and if one fails then the other accepts all the connections
so what you have is if 100 connections are on the master and the slave
only has 50 connections more than likely the next connection to come in
will go to the slave. There is a myth that it round robins the
connections that is NOT true. There are also a few gotchas with this and
arp and such like if you are going to be giving out different ip address
for your dial in users than what subnet the concentrator is on then you
will have to route traffic from your internal network to the interface
of the concentrator because it does not answer arps for those clients,
(hope I did not confuse you with that last statement). If you are going
to put the concentrator behind a firewall make sure you pass all
appropriate vpn traffic without filtering, such as port 50 port 51 port
500 to the concentrator.

That should get you started in the right direction if you have any more
DIRECT questions please let us know and we will try to help you out, if
I missed anything I am sure someone else on the group will pick it up.

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Subject: VPN Concetrator #3030 [7:58982]


Hi All,

Few questions regarding the VPN Concentrator

1. what do I do for Redundancy, ( VPN Redundant Bundle)
2. Load balancing
3. Where to put the Concentrator ( prefer putting the VPN Concetrator
behind Firewall).What are issues I will have to consider if I put the
concentrator behind Firewall.

Thanks,

Sunil




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VPN Concetrator #3030 [7:58982]

2002-12-11 Thread neil K.
Hi All,

Few questions regarding the VPN Concentrator

1. what do I do for Redundancy, ( VPN Redundant Bundle)
2. Load balancing
3. Where to put the Concentrator ( prefer putting the VPN Concetrator behind
Firewall).What are issues I will have to consider if I put the concentrator
behind Firewall.

Thanks,

Sunil




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