VTP Servers [7:39083]

2002-03-21 Thread Jeffrey Reed

If I have an existing VTP domain server with many VLANs configured and then
add another VTP server does the first server update the new server? No
chance of the new server updating the old server and wiping out the VTP
database, right?

Thanks!!

Jeff




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Re: VTP Servers [7:39083]

2002-03-21 Thread Erick B.

Hello,

The switches use the VTP database with the highest
config-revision. IE: You can be playing with a switch
not attached to the network and then attach it to the
network and if it's config-revision is higher it will
wipe out the other switches. Changing the VTP domain
makes the config-revision 0 again. So it is important
to make sure the config-revision is 0 before you plug
it into a live network if you don't want this switch
to overwrite your VLAN databases. I don't recall
offhand the 'show vtp ...' command that shows you what
the current config-revision value is but it is there. 

Also, be aware that a VTP CLIENT can send out VTP
updates and wipe out your VLAN database config. IE: A
quick-fix is not to change from Server to client mode.

HTH, Erick

--- Jeffrey Reed  wrote:
> If I have an existing VTP domain server with many
> VLANs configured and then
> add another VTP server does the first server update
> the new server? No
> chance of the new server updating the old server and
> wiping out the VTP
> database, right?
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> Jeff
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RE: VTP Servers [7:39083]

2002-03-21 Thread Wright, Jeremy

show vtp domain or show vtp status ..i think

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Hello,

The switches use the VTP database with the highest
config-revision. IE: You can be playing with a switch
not attached to the network and then attach it to the
network and if it's config-revision is higher it will
wipe out the other switches. Changing the VTP domain
makes the config-revision 0 again. So it is important
to make sure the config-revision is 0 before you plug
it into a live network if you don't want this switch
to overwrite your VLAN databases. I don't recall
offhand the 'show vtp ...' command that shows you what
the current config-revision value is but it is there. 

Also, be aware that a VTP CLIENT can send out VTP
updates and wipe out your VLAN database config. IE: A
quick-fix is not to change from Server to client mode.

HTH, Erick

--- Jeffrey Reed  wrote:
> If I have an existing VTP domain server with many
> VLANs configured and then
> add another VTP server does the first server update
> the new server? No
> chance of the new server updating the old server and
> wiping out the VTP
> database, right?
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> Jeff
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RE: VTP Servers [7:39083]

2002-03-21 Thread David Ford

Almost right.

If both servers are in the same VTP domain, the one whose configuration
counter is highest will propogate it's VLANs.  This means that if you add a
server that's been sitting in your lab and it has a higher configuration
counter, you will lose the VLANs on your current switch.

If the switch is not going to be a core switch, configure it as a VTP client
and the world will be a safe place.

If it does have a higher configuration counter, change it's VTP domain to a
different name and then change it back.  It's counter will go back to zero.

David

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If I have an existing VTP domain server with many VLANs configured and then
add another VTP server does the first server update the new server? No
chance of the new server updating the old server and wiping out the VTP
database, right?

Thanks!!

Jeff




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RE: VTP Servers [7:39083]

2002-03-21 Thread Arjen Dragt

Careful about the "...configure it as a VTP client and the world will be a
safe place." statement.  From CCO (all the following text is from CCO - no
comments needed):

Link (watch wrap):

cisco.com/warp/public/473/21.html#How%20a%20newly%20inserted%20switch%20can%
20mess%20up%20a%20network%20?



How a Recently-Inserted Switch Can Cause Network Problems

This problem occurs when you have a large switched domain, which is all in
the same VTP domain, and you want to add one switch in the network.

This switch was previously used in the lab and a good VTP domain name was
entered. It was configured as a VTP client, and connected to the rest of the
network. Then, the ISL link was brought up to the rest of the network. In
just a few seconds, the whole network is down. What could have happened?

The configuration revision of the switch you inserted was higher than the
configuration revision of the VTP domain. Therefore, your
recently-introduced switch, with almost no configured VLANs, has erased all
VLANs through the VTP domain.

This will happen whether the switch is a VTP client or a VTP server. A VTP
client can erase VLAN information on a VTP server. You will know that this
has happened when many of the ports in your network go into inactive state,
but continue to be assigned to a non-existing VLAN.


Cheers!

Arjen

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Almost right.

If both servers are in the same VTP domain, the one whose configuration
counter is highest will propogate it's VLANs.  This means that if you add a
server that's been sitting in your lab and it has a higher configuration
counter, you will lose the VLANs on your current switch.

If the switch is not going to be a core switch, configure it as a VTP client
and the world will be a safe place.

If it does have a higher configuration counter, change it's VTP domain to a
different name and then change it back.  It's counter will go back to zero.

David

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If I have an existing VTP domain server with many VLANs configured and then
add another VTP server does the first server update the new server? No
chance of the new server updating the old server and wiping out the VTP
database, right?

Thanks!!

Jeff




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RE: VTP Servers [7:39083]

2002-03-21 Thread Kris Keen

Provided you have different VTP domains and passwords, vtp advertisements
wont propogate between the two,  I always use VTP passwords, so you may want
to ensure you have this as well...

The domain name is what distinguishs the two


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Re: VTP Servers [7:39083]

2002-03-22 Thread Gaz

Depending on the type of switch and version of software, changing mode from
Server to Client will reset the VTP configuration revision, but not on all,
so again the safest way is to confirm the revision before connecting the
switch.

Regards,

Gaz


""Arjen Dragt""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Careful about the "...configure it as a VTP client and the world will be a
> safe place." statement.  From CCO (all the following text is from CCO - no
> comments needed):
>
> Link (watch wrap):
>
>
cisco.com/warp/public/473/21.html#How%20a%20newly%20inserted%20switch%20can%
> 20mess%20up%20a%20network%20?
>
>
>
> How a Recently-Inserted Switch Can Cause Network Problems
>
> This problem occurs when you have a large switched domain, which is all in
> the same VTP domain, and you want to add one switch in the network.
>
> This switch was previously used in the lab and a good VTP domain name was
> entered. It was configured as a VTP client, and connected to the rest of
the
> network. Then, the ISL link was brought up to the rest of the network. In
> just a few seconds, the whole network is down. What could have happened?
>
> The configuration revision of the switch you inserted was higher than the
> configuration revision of the VTP domain. Therefore, your
> recently-introduced switch, with almost no configured VLANs, has erased
all
> VLANs through the VTP domain.
>
> This will happen whether the switch is a VTP client or a VTP server. A VTP
> client can erase VLAN information on a VTP server. You will know that this
> has happened when many of the ports in your network go into inactive
state,
> but continue to be assigned to a non-existing VLAN.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Arjen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> David Ford
> Sent: March 21, 2002 4:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: VTP Servers [7:39083]
>
>
> Almost right.
>
> If both servers are in the same VTP domain, the one whose configuration
> counter is highest will propogate it's VLANs.  This means that if you add
a
> server that's been sitting in your lab and it has a higher configuration
> counter, you will lose the VLANs on your current switch.
>
> If the switch is not going to be a core switch, configure it as a VTP
client
> and the world will be a safe place.
>
> If it does have a higher configuration counter, change it's VTP domain to
a
> different name and then change it back.  It's counter will go back to
zero.
>
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jeffrey Reed
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 2:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VTP Servers [7:39083]
>
>
> If I have an existing VTP domain server with many VLANs configured and
then
> add another VTP server does the first server update the new server? No
> chance of the new server updating the old server and wiping out the VTP
> database, right?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Jeff




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