Voice on lab [7:6979]
I know that VoIP is on the lab. but how about VoFR or VoATM? are they included in the VoIP? (the CCIE outline doesnot say that) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6979t=6979 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice on lab [7:6979]
Voice in the lab is VoIP across an ATM cloud. At 08:46 AM 06/03/2001 -0400, sparkest pig wrote: I know that VoIP is on the lab. but how about VoFR or VoATM? are they included in the VoIP? (the CCIE outline doesnot say that) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx Darren S. Crawford Network Systems Consultant Lucent Technologies - Sacramento email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] page via email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pager: 800-467-1467 x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6986t=6979 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice for lab
I believe you can get a 1750-2V (that supports one voice card) or a 1750-4V, that supports tow voice cards. Ed "John Dill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The least expensive way to go is get a 1750. The 1750 uses the same personality (VIC = FXS, EM, FXO) cards as the 2600 and you do not need the extra (expensive) voice processor card like the 2600. Careful. The 1750 DOES require a voice processor card, a PVDM-4 will provide DSP resources for one VIC card. It lists for $400, and it is not included in the base model. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Voice for lab
Title: RE: Voice for lab There's an 800 series DSL box with built-in voice ports, the 827-4v. Wouldn't two of those serve as a voice lab, with traffic going over the ethernet ports? Should be able to buy two new ones for under $1500 total. I know that the config examples and scenarios show the VoIP data going out over the ATM/DSL line, but couldn't it route the VoIP over the e0 as well? http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/827.htm -jon- -Original Message- From: Jon Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 10:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Voice for lab I have a 3810, it is NOT cheap. The 2600 series is modular, so more useful in the long run. The 2600 requires both a voice processor card ($750-1200, 1 or 2 VIC support) and the personality card (VIC - $300 new) to do voice. The least expensive way to go is get a 1750. The 1750 uses the same personality (VIC = FXS, EM, FXO) cards as the 2600 and you do not need the extra (expensive) voice processor card like the 2600. You can get a new 1750 for about $1600, add $300 for a FXS and you are ready to go, with VPN to boot! Used, you can find one for about $1000.00 with voice, or buy a used 1750 alone for $500-$800 and spend $300 for the new voice card (VIC). The VICs have 2 ports per card. The 1750 has 3 card slots, 1 is dedicated to VIC use. the other 2 can be other WAN cards or VICs. You may be able to get a used 2600 with voice for $1500.00 (Usually a FXO, the FXS is better for home use since you can plug a regular phone directly into it) . The 3810 is even more expensive. Also remember, You need access to 2 voice routers to make it useful. Jon Brian wrote in message I am wanting to add voice to my lab. I was thinking a cheap way to do with was some 26xx routers and voice cards. What about the MC3810 though? Does that use the same commands/configuration as any other FXO/FXS etc? I mean, can I essentailly use it as good as a 2610 for example as far as doing voice scenerios? Brian
Voice for lab
I am wanting to add voice to my lab. I was thinking a cheap way to do with was some 26xx routers and voice cards. What about the MC3810 though? Does that use the same commands/configuration as any other FXO/FXS etc? I mean, can I essentailly use it as good as a 2610 for example as far as doing voice scenerios? Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice for lab
Voice and cheap are a long way from being synonymous! Voice stuff comes up so rarely on Ebay that is commands high prices and new prices are astronomical. You might be better off just renting some time on someone elses' rack instead of buying it yourself. From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Voice for lab Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:24:18 -0600 (CST) I am wanting to add voice to my lab. I was thinking a cheap way to do with was some 26xx routers and voice cards. What about the MC3810 though? Does that use the same commands/configuration as any other FXO/FXS etc? I mean, can I essentailly use it as good as a 2610 for example as far as doing voice scenerios? Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice for lab
I have a 3810, it is NOT cheap. The 2600 series is modular, so more useful in the long run. The 2600 requires both a voice processor card ($750-1200, 1 or 2 VIC support) and the personality card (VIC - $300 new) to do voice. The least expensive way to go is get a 1750. The 1750 uses the same personality (VIC = FXS, EM, FXO) cards as the 2600 and you do not need the extra (expensive) voice processor card like the 2600. You can get a new 1750 for about $1600, add $300 for a FXS and you are ready to go, with VPN to boot! Used, you can find one for about $1000.00 with voice, or buy a used 1750 alone for $500-$800 and spend $300 for the new voice card (VIC). The VICs have 2 ports per card. The 1750 has 3 card slots, 1 is dedicated to VIC use. the other 2 can be other WAN cards or VICs. You may be able to get a used 2600 with voice for $1500.00 (Usually a FXO, the FXS is better for home use since you can plug a regular phone directly into it) . The 3810 is even more expensive. Also remember, You need access to 2 voice routers to make it useful. Jon "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am wanting to add voice to my lab. I was thinking a cheap way to do with was some 26xx routers and voice cards. What about the MC3810 though? Does that use the same commands/configuration as any other FXO/FXS etc? I mean, can I essentailly use it as good as a 2610 for example as far as doing voice scenerios? Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice for lab
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Frank Wells wrote: Voice and cheap are a long way from being synonymous! Voice stuff comes up so rarely on Ebay that is commands high prices and new prices are astronomical. Voice isn't really expensive. 2610's empty are about $1000. Add a nm-2v and a few hundred dollars in vic's and you are set. It looks to me that with a 2610, you can get a decent voice router with some fxs/fxo action going for $1500. Times two of course for doing scenerios. $3k I can live with. What I would really like is a 2610 and a 2620, that way I pick up fastethernet cheap as well for vlan's etc. I think I can get a 2610 and 2620 for $3500 or so (package)... ATM is whats expensive. And ATM isn't really that hard..LANE is whats confusing, and now that its removed... You might be better off just renting some time on someone elses' rack instead of buying it yourself. Probably so, voice doens't look to difficult. Even better, I may just implement a voice solution here with company money, get some training and brownie points at the same time :) Brian From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Voice for lab Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:24:18 -0600 (CST) I am wanting to add voice to my lab. I was thinking a cheap way to do with was some 26xx routers and voice cards. What about the MC3810 though? Does that use the same commands/configuration as any other FXO/FXS etc? I mean, can I essentailly use it as good as a 2610 for example as far as doing voice scenerios? Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice for lab
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Jon wrote: I have a 3810, it is NOT cheap. The 2600 series is modular, so more useful 3810's go on ebay for ~$1500. In fact, the highest one has gone for yet in the past 30 days is about $1576. in the long run. The 2600 requires both a voice processor card ($750-1200, 1 or 2 VIC support) and the personality card (VIC - $300 new) to do voice. The least expensive way to go is get a 1750. The 1750 uses the same personality (VIC = FXS, EM, FXO) cards as the 2600 and you do not need the extra (expensive) voice processor card like the 2600. You can get a new 1750 for about $1600, add $300 for a FXS and you are ready to go, with VPN to boot! Used, you can find one for about $1000.00 with voice, or buy a used 1750 alone for $500-$800 and spend $300 for the new voice card (VIC). The VICs have 2 ports per card. The 1750 has 3 card slots, 1 is dedicated to VIC use. the other 2 can be other WAN cards or VICs. the 26xx can run Enterprise IOS, while a 1750 can just do like ip/ipx/at and a few other things. You may be able to get a used 2600 with voice for $1500.00 (Usually a FXO, the FXS is better for home use since you can plug a regular phone directly into it) . The 3810 is even more expensive. Thats what I am thinking fxo/fxs. I can't really agree with you though that a 3810 is "expensive"one closed today on ebay for $1126 and had a nice assortment of fxs/fxo ports to boot: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=487396267ed=973628747 these aren't rare on ebay or the secondary market either...like I said $1500 looks like it can get something decent. Also remember, You need access to 2 voice routers to make it useful. nod, thats why I was thinking 2620/2610. the 2620 will get you fast ethernet as well. I am not sure if the fastethernet on the 1750 is actually ISL/dot1q capible or not. Brian Jon "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am wanting to add voice to my lab. I was thinking a cheap way to do with was some 26xx routers and voice cards. What about the MC3810 though? Does that use the same commands/configuration as any other FXO/FXS etc? I mean, can I essentailly use it as good as a 2610 for example as far as doing voice scenerios? Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice for lab
The least expensive way to go is get a 1750. The 1750 uses the same personality (VIC = FXS, EM, FXO) cards as the 2600 and you do not need the extra (expensive) voice processor card like the 2600. Careful. The 1750 DOES require a voice processor card, a PVDM-4 will provide DSP resources for one VIC card. It lists for $400, and it is not included in the base model. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
