WAN Protocols, Connection Oriented V Connectionless ?

2000-11-23 Thread Phil Barker

Hi,
  Does anyone have a link for a definitive comparison
between cnnection oriented versus connectionless WAN
Protocols ?

e.g SDLC, HDLC, HDLC (Cisco), LAPB, PPP.

I realise that SDLC, HDLC, LAPB, PPP are all in effect
the same frame format and I´m thinking they should all
be connectionless allowing higher level protocols like
TCP to provide the reliability. 

I have some confusion though with the similarity with
IEEE 802.2, i.e I´ve read that PPP contains a control
field of 03 making it connectionless. 

However, if an application used 02 in the control
field it could presumably be connection orientated.
i.e it has the ability to support both.

Any thoughts ?

Regards,

Phil.




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Re: WAN Protocols, Connection Oriented V Connectionless ?

2000-11-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Hi,
>   Does anyone have a link for a definitive comparison
>between cnnection oriented versus connectionless WAN
>Protocols ?
>
>e.g SDLC, HDLC, HDLC (Cisco), LAPB, PPP.
>
>I realise that SDLC, HDLC, LAPB, PPP are all in effect
>the same frame format and I´m thinking they should all
>be connectionless allowing higher level protocols like
>TCP to provide the reliability.

If I read between the lines above, it sounds as if you believe 
transport should always provide the reliability.  Why? Why not?

Are there legitimate applications for unreliable transport and  for 
reliable data links?

>
>I have some confusion though with the similarity with
>IEEE 802.2, i.e I´ve read that PPP contains a control
>field of 03 making it connectionless.

There are additional cases of 802.2.  Class 1 is indeed 
connectionless and unreliable. Class 2, which essentially is SDLC 
over LAN, is connection-oriented and reliable.

Additionally, the Manufacturing Automation Protocol suite has a 
variant, 802.2 class 3, which is connectionless but reliable (i.e., 
acknowledged datagram).  This is a very special application intended 
for real-time robot control, an application in which it would make no 
sense to route the traffic.

>
>However, if an application used 02 in the control
>field it could presumably be connection orientated.
>i.e it has the ability to support both.

Yes, it could be connection-oriented. But what limitations would 
there be on windowing, given the current frame format?

>
>Any thoughts ?
>
>Regards,
>
>Phil.

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