Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]

2003-01-22 Thread ericbrouwers
Hi,

For those that are reading Cisco Press' CCNP Routing Exam Certification
Guide:
there is a very confusing definition of type 4 summary LSAs on page 292,
chapter 6:

The AS external ASBR summary link- This LSA is sent to a router that connects
to the outside world (ASBR). It is sent from the Area Border Router to the
Autonomous System Boundary Router. The LSA contains the metric cost from the
ABR to the ASBR. This is identified as a Type 4 LSA.

In my opinion this is wrong, isn't it? Or maybe I'm missing something?

My understanding is that a type 4 summary LSA is originated by ABRs.It is
sent
into an area by the ABR to advertise the AS boundary routers.

Could someone confirm my understanding?

Eric Brouwers




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RE: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]

2003-01-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
ericbrouwers wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For those that are reading Cisco Press' CCNP Routing Exam
> Certification Guide:
> there is a very confusing definition of type 4 summary LSAs on
> page 292,
> chapter 6:
> 
> The AS external ASBR summary link- This LSA is sent to a router
> that connects
> to the outside world (ASBR). It is sent from the Area Border
> Router to the
> Autonomous System Boundary Router. The LSA contains the metric
> cost from the
> ABR to the ASBR. This is identified as a Type 4 LSA.
> 
> In my opinion this is wrong, isn't it? Or maybe I'm missing
> something?
> 
> My understanding is that a type 4 summary LSA is originated by
> ABRs.It is sent
> into an area by the ABR to advertise the AS boundary routers.
> 
> Could someone confirm my understanding?

Yup, I have the same comment penciled into my copy of the book.

Bottom line: don't even bother trying to learn OSPF from that book. It's a
disaster. (It's a pretty good book otherwise, I think?)

Read "Routing TCP/IP" by Doyle. You'll want to get that book anyway if you
haven't already It's terrific for real-world and certs.

___

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www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com
> 
> Eric Brouwers
> 
> 




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Re: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]

2003-01-23 Thread Juntao
here is the relative info from  rfc 1247

3,4Summary link Originated by area border routers, and
   advs.   flooded throughout their associated
  area. Each summary link
advertisement
 describes a route to a destination
  outside the area, yet still inside
the
 AS (i.e., an inter-area route).
Type 3
advertisements describe routes to
networks. Type 4 advertisements
describe routes to AS boundary
routers.

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> ericbrouwers wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > For those that are reading Cisco Press' CCNP Routing Exam
> > Certification Guide:
> > there is a very confusing definition of type 4 summary LSAs on
> > page 292,
> > chapter 6:
> >
> > The AS external ASBR summary link- This LSA is sent to a router
> > that connects
> > to the outside world (ASBR). It is sent from the Area Border
> > Router to the
> > Autonomous System Boundary Router. The LSA contains the metric
> > cost from the
> > ABR to the ASBR. This is identified as a Type 4 LSA.
> >
> > In my opinion this is wrong, isn't it? Or maybe I'm missing
> > something?
> >
> > My understanding is that a type 4 summary LSA is originated by
> > ABRs.It is sent
> > into an area by the ABR to advertise the AS boundary routers.
> >
> > Could someone confirm my understanding?
>
> Yup, I have the same comment penciled into my copy of the book.
>
> Bottom line: don't even bother trying to learn OSPF from that book. It's a
> disaster. (It's a pretty good book otherwise, I think?)
>
> Read "Routing TCP/IP" by Doyle. You'll want to get that book anyway if you
> haven't already It's terrific for real-world and certs.
>
> ___
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
> www.priscilla.com
> >
> > Eric Brouwers




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Re: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]

2003-01-23 Thread ericbrouwers
All of you, thanks for the answers. This routing exam cert. guide is a
pretty good book, although I haven't read the BGP and IS-IS sections yet.
But the OSPF section needs some corrections indeed . Anyway, I think I will
follow Priscilla's advise to buy Doyle's routing book, because now I have
around six books (a/o ICND, DCN and CID related books) that all cover
fractions of routing, but not the full story. Moreover, sometimes they are
in contradiction.

Eric

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From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:21 PM
Subject: RE: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]


> ericbrouwers wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > For those that are reading Cisco Press' CCNP Routing Exam
> > Certification Guide:
> > there is a very confusing definition of type 4 summary LSAs on
> > page 292,
> > chapter 6:
> >
> > The AS external ASBR summary link- This LSA is sent to a router
> > that connects
> > to the outside world (ASBR). It is sent from the Area Border
> > Router to the
> > Autonomous System Boundary Router. The LSA contains the metric
> > cost from the
> > ABR to the ASBR. This is identified as a Type 4 LSA.
> >
> > In my opinion this is wrong, isn't it? Or maybe I'm missing
> > something?
> >
> > My understanding is that a type 4 summary LSA is originated by
> > ABRs.It is sent
> > into an area by the ABR to advertise the AS boundary routers.
> >
> > Could someone confirm my understanding?
>
> Yup, I have the same comment penciled into my copy of the book.
>
> Bottom line: don't even bother trying to learn OSPF from that book. It's a
> disaster. (It's a pretty good book otherwise, I think?)
>
> Read "Routing TCP/IP" by Doyle. You'll want to get that book anyway if you
> haven't already It's terrific for real-world and certs.
>
> ___
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
> www.priscilla.com
> >
> > Eric Brouwers




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Re: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]

2003-01-23 Thread Wei Zhu
ASB Link summary is the distance from ABR to ASBR.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk365/technologies_white_paper09186a00800943a1.shtml

Wei


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From: "ericbrouwers" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:48 PM
Subject: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]


> Hi,
> 
> For those that are reading Cisco Press' CCNP Routing Exam Certification
> Guide:
> there is a very confusing definition of type 4 summary LSAs on page 292,
> chapter 6:
> 
> The AS external ASBR summary link- This LSA is sent to a router that
connects
> to the outside world (ASBR). It is sent from the Area Border Router to the
> Autonomous System Boundary Router. The LSA contains the metric cost from
the
> ABR to the ASBR. This is identified as a Type 4 LSA.
> 
> In my opinion this is wrong, isn't it? Or maybe I'm missing something?
> 
> My understanding is that a type 4 summary LSA is originated by ABRs.It is
> sent
> into an area by the ABR to advertise the AS boundary routers.
> 
> Could someone confirm my understanding?
> 
> Eric Brouwers




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Re: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]

2003-01-25 Thread ericbrouwers
thing right now. I'm reading the Sybex BSCI book.

Eric
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  From: Pistone, Mike
  To: 'ericbrouwers'
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:50 PM
  Subject: RE: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]


  I'm reading the CP CCNP Routing Cert Guide too, and have found many of the
same faults you did.   I found reading the Sybex CCNP books at the same time
(the chapters almost exactly match up) works very well.  Sybex gives you the
introduction in a understandable way, and then the Cisco book elaborates on
the topics...

  Mike

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  All of you, thanks for the answers. This routing exam cert. guide is a
pretty good book, although I haven't read the BGP and IS-IS sections yet. But
the OSPF section needs some corrections indeed . Anyway, I think I will
follow
Priscilla's advise to buy Doyle's routing book, because now I have around six
books (a/o ICND, DCN and CID related books) that all cover fractions of
routing, but not the full story. Moreover, sometimes they are in
contradiction.

  Eric

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  From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:21 PM
  Subject: RE: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]



  > ericbrouwers wrote:
  > >
  > > Hi,
  > >
  > > For those that are reading Cisco Press' CCNP Routing Exam
  > > Certification Guide: there is a very confusing definition of type 4
  > > summary LSAs on page 292,
  > > chapter 6:
  > >
  > > The AS external ASBR summary link- This LSA is sent to a router that
  > > connects to the outside world (ASBR). It is sent from the Area
  > > Border Router to the
  > > Autonomous System Boundary Router. The LSA contains the metric
  > > cost from the
  > > ABR to the ASBR. This is identified as a Type 4 LSA.
  > >
  > > In my opinion this is wrong, isn't it? Or maybe I'm missing
  > > something?
  > >
  > > My understanding is that a type 4 summary LSA is originated by
  > > ABRs.It is sent into an area by the ABR to advertise the AS boundary
  > > routers.
  > >
  > > Could someone confirm my understanding?
  >
  > Yup, I have the same comment penciled into my copy of the book.
  >
  > Bottom line: don't even bother trying to learn OSPF from that book.
  > It's a disaster. (It's a pretty good book otherwise, I think?)
  >
  > Read "Routing TCP/IP" by Doyle. You'll want to get that book anyway if
  > you haven't already It's terrific for real-world and certs.
  >
  > ___
  >
  > Priscilla Oppenheimer
  > www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
  > www.priscilla.com
  > >
  > > Eric Brouwers




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Re: Wrong definition type 4 summary LSA for ASBRs [7:61615]

2003-01-25 Thread Peter van Oene
>The AS external ASBR summary link- This LSA is sent to a router that
connects
>to the outside world (ASBR). It is sent from the Area Border Router to the
>Autonomous System Boundary Router. The LSA contains the metric cost from the
>ABR to the ASBR. This is identified as a Type 4 LSA.
>
>In my opinion this is wrong, isn't it? Or maybe I'm missing something?

The problem is, it is quite easy to get a contract for book writing these 
days.  Furthermore, many publishers (not picking on any one in particular) 
are bring books to market before a proper editing (technical/copy/etc) 
process has been completed.  Hence, I highly recommend you buy books that 
are either highly recommended, or written by authors who are either 
authoritative on the subject (ie participated in the spec development) or 
those that have a reputation for writing quality materials.  There is 
unfortunately a fair amount of not very top notch books out there.

Pete


>My understanding is that a type 4 summary LSA is originated by ABRs.It is
>sent
>into an area by the ABR to advertise the AS boundary routers.
>
>Could someone confirm my understanding?
>
>Eric Brouwers




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