Re: ambiguous command [7:17568]
I agree TOTALLY with Leigh Anne, but I would also like to add that I was very disappointed at how many questions on the CCIE written were word for word on testing software. One is a coincidence about forty exact word for word questions is criminal. So even if someone posts a question with QID and vendor info you could still be treading thin ice. I think the software copied the Test questions, cisco didn't look at the software and say we gotta have that one. Don - Original Message - From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: RE: ambiguous command [7:17568] > If someone replies to a question indicating they can't respond due to NDA, > it's more than likely that that person has it on good authority that the > question comes from an official Cisco exam. It's best if people didn't jump > to responding to such questions until the poster identifies the source of > the question. > > In this particular example, two people posted messages indicating answering > would contravene NDA. Groupstudy has never been about providing a home for > braindumps - it's been about enhansing knowledge. "Jo Carol" needs to keep > questions OFF the list unless the source has been specified--and the rest of > us need to take the time to make sure we're not contributing to devaluing > the worth of our Certifications. > > > -- Leigh Anne > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > James Willard > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ambiguous command [7:17568] > > > That isn't a NDA issue. That's something you can easily test on any > router that runs IOS. A quick test of telneting to a router and typing > "show i" results in the "ambiguous command" message followed by the > Router# prompt. There's your answer. > > James Willard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > "Wright, Jeremy" wrote: > > > > Can't answer- must respect NDA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jo carol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:ambiguous command [7:17568] > > > > Hi > > I had a question on a test that said if after a command > you > > get > > %ambiguous command will the router return to the original > > command or > > just router# > > Thanks > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > > -James Donavon Willard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17675&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ambiguous command [7:17568]
If someone replies to a question indicating they can't respond due to NDA, it's more than likely that that person has it on good authority that the question comes from an official Cisco exam. It's best if people didn't jump to responding to such questions until the poster identifies the source of the question. In this particular example, two people posted messages indicating answering would contravene NDA. Groupstudy has never been about providing a home for braindumps - it's been about enhansing knowledge. "Jo Carol" needs to keep questions OFF the list unless the source has been specified--and the rest of us need to take the time to make sure we're not contributing to devaluing the worth of our Certifications. -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Willard Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ambiguous command [7:17568] That isn't a NDA issue. That's something you can easily test on any router that runs IOS. A quick test of telneting to a router and typing "show i" results in the "ambiguous command" message followed by the Router# prompt. There's your answer. James Willard [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Wright, Jeremy" wrote: > > Can't answer- must respect NDA > > -Original Message- > From: jo carol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:ambiguous command [7:17568] > > Hi > I had a question on a test that said if after a command you > get > %ambiguous command will the router return to the original > command or > just router# > Thanks > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -James Donavon Willard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17578&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ambiguous command [7:17568]
I recognized it from a test (I'd rather not say which one- "even the paranoid have enemies") -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ambiguous command [7:17568] I think it is indeed a violation of the NDA to discuss actual test questions. I suggest we ignore questions that appear to come from an actual test. If the poster doesn't say which practice test the question comes from, then don't answer it. Also, for a question that can easily be answered by typing a few characters in exec mode, it would be best to teach the person how to get the answer rather than just give them the answer, especially since there are router simulators out there. On a tangent, if the test really expects one to memorize what happens when you type a typo, that's pretty silly. Maybe it did come from a practice test. It seems too stupid to have come from an actual test!? ;-) Priscilla At 04:38 PM 8/28/01, Wright, Jeremy wrote: >I'm not arguing, I just thought with the first statement "I had a test >question" and asking for an answer would be a violation of the NDA by >revealing what is on the test. I really don't care personally, but just >chipping in my 2 cents. > > -Original Message- > From: James Willard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:17 PM > To: Wright, Jeremy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Re: ambiguous command [7:17568] > > That isn't a NDA issue. That's something you can easily test >on any > router that runs IOS. A quick test of telneting to a router >and typing > "show i" results in the "ambiguous command" message followed >by the > Router# prompt. There's your answer. > > James Willard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > "Wright, Jeremy" wrote: > > > > Can't answer- must respect NDA > > > > -Original Message- > > From: jo carol >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:ambiguous command >[7:17568] > > > > Hi > > I had a question on a test that said if >after a command you > > get > > %ambiguous command will the router return >to the original > > command or > > just router# > > Thanks > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > -James Donavon Willard >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17604&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ambiguous command [7:17568]
> On a tangent, if the test really expects one to memorize what happens when > you type a typo, that's pretty silly. Maybe it did come from a practice > test. It seems too stupid to have come from an actual test!? ;-) "Stupid is as stupid does" - Sally Field as Mama Gump I've seen dumber questions on exams _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17602&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ambiguous command [7:17568]
I think it is indeed a violation of the NDA to discuss actual test questions. I suggest we ignore questions that appear to come from an actual test. If the poster doesn't say which practice test the question comes from, then don't answer it. Also, for a question that can easily be answered by typing a few characters in exec mode, it would be best to teach the person how to get the answer rather than just give them the answer, especially since there are router simulators out there. On a tangent, if the test really expects one to memorize what happens when you type a typo, that's pretty silly. Maybe it did come from a practice test. It seems too stupid to have come from an actual test!? ;-) Priscilla At 04:38 PM 8/28/01, Wright, Jeremy wrote: >I'm not arguing, I just thought with the first statement "I had a test >question" and asking for an answer would be a violation of the NDA by >revealing what is on the test. I really don't care personally, but just >chipping in my 2 cents. > > -Original Message- > From: James Willard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:17 PM > To: Wright, Jeremy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Re: ambiguous command [7:17568] > > That isn't a NDA issue. That's something you can easily test >on any > router that runs IOS. A quick test of telneting to a router >and typing > "show i" results in the "ambiguous command" message followed >by the > Router# prompt. There's your answer. > > James Willard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > "Wright, Jeremy" wrote: > > > > Can't answer- must respect NDA > > > > -Original Message- > > From: jo carol >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:ambiguous command >[7:17568] > > > > Hi > > I had a question on a test that said if >after a command you > > get > > %ambiguous command will the router return >to the original > > command or > > just router# > > Thanks > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > -James Donavon Willard >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17595&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ambiguous command [7:17568]
I didn't realize the answer to this a more closely guarded secret than the size of... I remember doing this exact thing in my cisco class but no longer have access to a router but now I'll try to find one Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17589&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ambiguous command [7:17568]
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. p.s. just joking (in case you're paranoid) ""jo carol"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi > I had a question on a test that said if after a command you get > %ambiguous command will the router return to the original command or > just router# > Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17580&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ambiguous command [7:17568]
That is confidential information. ""jo carol"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi > I had a question on a test that said if after a command you get > %ambiguous command will the router return to the original command or > just router# > Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17572&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ambiguous command [7:17568]
That isn't a NDA issue. That's something you can easily test on any router that runs IOS. A quick test of telneting to a router and typing "show i" results in the "ambiguous command" message followed by the Router# prompt. There's your answer. James Willard [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Wright, Jeremy" wrote: > > Can't answer- must respect NDA > > -Original Message- > From: jo carol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:ambiguous command [7:17568] > > Hi > I had a question on a test that said if after a command you > get > %ambiguous command will the router return to the original > command or > just router# > Thanks > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -James Donavon Willard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17571&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ambiguous command [7:17568]
I'm not arguing, I just thought with the first statement "I had a test question" and asking for an answer would be a violation of the NDA by revealing what is on the test. I really don't care personally, but just chipping in my 2 cents. -Original Message- From: James Willard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:17 PM To: Wright, Jeremy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ambiguous command [7:17568] That isn't a NDA issue. That's something you can easily test on any router that runs IOS. A quick test of telneting to a router and typing "show i" results in the "ambiguous command" message followed by the Router# prompt. There's your answer. James Willard [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Wright, Jeremy" wrote: > > Can't answer- must respect NDA > > -Original Message- > From: jo carol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:ambiguous command [7:17568] > > Hi > I had a question on a test that said if after a command you > get > %ambiguous command will the router return to the original > command or > just router# > Thanks > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -James Donavon Willard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17573&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ambiguous command [7:17568]
Can't answer- must respect NDA -Original Message- From: jo carol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ambiguous command [7:17568] Hi I had a question on a test that said if after a command you get %ambiguous command will the router return to the original command or just router# Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17570&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ambiguous command [7:17568]
Hi I had a question on a test that said if after a command you get %ambiguous command will the router return to the original command or just router# Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17568&t=17568 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
