Re: books on security specialization
Having taken the MCNS 2.0 beta exam, I can tell you that the test I took was short on theory or design and very long on configuration(85-90%). Most of what you need to know you can find in the Cisco Press Reference Library book "Cisco IOS Network Security" ISBN 1-57870-057-4. Tailor your study to the objectives. Also, Chuck's recommendation to check out PIX configuration material from Cisco's web site is a good one. Brad On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:23:29 -0400, Bob & Karen Timmons wrote: > I don't know if these books are specifically for the exam, but I have 2 > books > on Cisco Security. > > The first is Cisco Security Architectures (McGraw Hill) > Second is Cisco IOS Network Security (Cisco Press) > > Both books are excellent, btw. > > Bob > - Original Message - > From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Alfred Saulo > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:05 PM > Subject: RE: books on security specialization > > > > And unfortunately, that is that! I wonder why there isn't a more > technical > > manual? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:11 AM > > To: Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: books on security specialization > > > > > > Designing Network Security by Merike Kaeo Cisco Press > > > > Cisco Access Lists Field Guide by Held and Hundley McGraw-Hill > > > > Check out the Cisco web site for documents on Pix configuration. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Chuck > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Alfred Saulo > > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:29 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: books on security specialization > > > > Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for > the > > security specialization test... Thanks. > > Alfred > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books on security specialization
I don't know if these books are specifically for the exam, but I have 2 books on Cisco Security. The first is Cisco Security Architectures (McGraw Hill) Second is Cisco IOS Network Security (Cisco Press) Both books are excellent, btw. Bob - Original Message - From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Alfred Saulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:05 PM Subject: RE: books on security specialization > And unfortunately, that is that! I wonder why there isn't a more technical > manual? > > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:11 AM > To: Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: books on security specialization > > > Designing Network Security by Merike Kaeo Cisco Press > > Cisco Access Lists Field Guide by Held and Hundley McGraw-Hill > > Check out the Cisco web site for documents on Pix configuration. > > Good luck! > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Alfred Saulo > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:29 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: books on security specialization > > Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the > security specialization test... Thanks. > Alfred > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books on security specialization
They have improved some. I was just commenting to myself that their current release of BCMSN seemed to be bug free then it crashed on one of the practical exercises. If you're paying for them what I am (i.e., business has a contract, and I'm not), they're pretty good. They're worth the time it takes to go through them, and finding the mistakes emphasizes the material. Worth what I paid for it, at least :) Joel Studtmann - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 9:11 PM Subject: RE: books on security specialization Unless SmartForce offerings have improved substantially since the last time I looked - March or so - I wouldn't bother. Besides, I'm not sure anyone ought to be spending time learning Centri firewall ;-> Look, for the security test, you can get all you need and more free on CCO. It's not really a killer test ( yet! ) My opinion. worth what you paid for it. Chuck -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cryptobyteSent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:42 AMTo: Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: books on security specializationAncillary material available from www.smartforce.com for: Cisco Router Firewall & Perimeter Security; and, http://www.smartforce.com/corp/marketing/corporate/content/Solutions/SmartCourses/catalog/curicula/courses/isec26e/isec26e.htm Cisco Security Solutions. http://www.smartforce.com/corp/marketing/corporate/content/Solutions/SmartCourses/catalog/curicula/courses/isec17e/isec17e.htm IOS, PIX and Centri [and much more] are covered. To the level you desire ? I believe it is available separately (i.e., not bundled with Internet Security Consortium CD). I haven't seen it at Cisco proper. For that matter, given Security interest, you might take a look at Internet Security Consortium offering. It is was $2,500 and covers pretty near the whole gambit; however, Check Point and RAS pulled out at last minute. Not a dealer. Not a rep. Just repositioning. Good luck. cryptobyte Alfred Saulo wrote: Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books on security specialization
Sorry, text only stripped off URL pointer(s). Ancillary material available from www.smartforce.com for Cisco Router Firewall & Perimeter Security; or, www.smartforce.com for Cisco Security Solutions. I believe it is available separately (i.e., not bundled with Internet Security Consortium CD). I haven't seen it at Cisco proper. For that matter, given Security interest, you might take a look at Internet Security Consortium offering. It is was $2,500 and covers pretty near the whole gambit; however, Check Point and RAS pulled out at last minute. Not a dealer. Not a rep. Good luck. cryptobyte Alfred Saulo wrote: Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: books on security specialization
Designing Network Security by Merike Kaeo Cisco Press Cisco Access Lists Field Guide by Held and Hundley McGraw-Hill Check out the Cisco web site for documents on Pix configuration. Good luck! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alfred Saulo Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: books on security specialization Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books on security specialization
On 16 Aug 2000 10:30:16 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alfred Saulo) wrote: Not available yet, I know, but his book looks like it will have very good coverage. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1928994172/qid=966495859/sr=1-4/002-0717269-4919223 Regards, Richard G. >Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the >security specialization test... Thanks. >Alfred > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >--- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: books on security specialization
Unless SmartForce offerings have improved substantially since the last time I looked - March or so - I wouldn't bother. Besides, I'm not sure anyone ought to be spending time learning Centri firewall ;-> Look, for the security test, you can get all you need and more free on CCO. It's not really a killer test ( yet! ) My opinion. worth what you paid for it. Chuck -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cryptobyteSent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:42 AMTo: Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: books on security specializationAncillary material available from www.smartforce.com for: Cisco Router Firewall & Perimeter Security; and, http://www.smartforce.com/corp/marketing/corporate/content/Solutions/SmartCourses/catalog/curicula/courses/isec26e/isec26e.htm Cisco Security Solutions. http://www.smartforce.com/corp/marketing/corporate/content/Solutions/SmartCourses/catalog/curicula/courses/isec17e/isec17e.htm IOS, PIX and Centri [and much more] are covered. To the level you desire ? I believe it is available separately (i.e., not bundled with Internet Security Consortium CD). I haven't seen it at Cisco proper. For that matter, given Security interest, you might take a look at Internet Security Consortium offering. It is was $2,500 and covers pretty near the whole gambit; however, Check Point and RAS pulled out at last minute. Not a dealer. Not a rep. Just repositioning. Good luck. cryptobyte Alfred Saulo wrote: Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books on security specialization
Ancillary material available from www.smartforce.com for: Cisco Router Firewall & Perimeter Security; and, http://www.smartforce.com/corp/marketing/corporate/content/Solutions/SmartCourses/catalog/curicula/courses/isec26e/isec26e.htm Cisco Security Solutions. http://www.smartforce.com/corp/marketing/corporate/content/Solutions/SmartCourses/catalog/curicula/courses/isec17e/isec17e.htm IOS, PIX and Centri [and much more] are covered. To the level you desire ? I believe it is available separately (i.e., not bundled with Internet Security Consortium CD). I haven't seen it at Cisco proper. For that matter, given Security interest, you might take a look at Internet Security Consortium offering. It is was $2,500 and covers pretty near the whole gambit; however, Check Point and RAS pulled out at last minute. Not a dealer. Not a rep. Just repositioning. Good luck. cryptobyte Alfred Saulo wrote: Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: books on security specialization
I'd like to see a more detailed discussion on the Pix (that's what I use now). When I was first learning the Pix all I had was the manual and CCO and I believe both are a little light. I dunno...guess I'm just used to the seemingly 4 billion books on everything else Cisco... -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 9:17 AM To: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor; Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: books on security specialization Probably because all the security specialization is, really, is a bit of Cisco's idea of security policy and then the rest is hands on work with Cisco equipment. Oh, yeah, there is a bit on encryption and such, but generally the exam covers policy, security threats, CBAC and other access lists, and PIX configuration. The CCNP/Security is essentially a low level security certification, and should in no way be confused with those guys who make 300K doing complex security assessments and implementations for major banks, ISP's, and brokerages. :-> -Original Message- From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 9:05 AM To: Chuck Larrieu; Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: books on security specialization And unfortunately, that is that! I wonder why there isn't a more technical manual? -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:11 AM To: Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: books on security specialization Designing Network Security by Merike Kaeo Cisco Press Cisco Access Lists Field Guide by Held and Hundley McGraw-Hill Check out the Cisco web site for documents on Pix configuration. Good luck! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alfred Saulo Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:books on security specialization Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: books on security specialization
Probably because all the security specialization is, really, is a bit of Cisco's idea of security policy and then the rest is hands on work with Cisco equipment. Oh, yeah, there is a bit on encryption and such, but generally the exam covers policy, security threats, CBAC and other access lists, and PIX configuration. The CCNP/Security is essentially a low level security certification, and should in no way be confused with those guys who make 300K doing complex security assessments and implementations for major banks, ISP's, and brokerages. :-> -Original Message- From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 9:05 AM To: Chuck Larrieu; Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: books on security specialization And unfortunately, that is that! I wonder why there isn't a more technical manual? -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:11 AM To: Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: books on security specialization Designing Network Security by Merike Kaeo Cisco Press Cisco Access Lists Field Guide by Held and Hundley McGraw-Hill Check out the Cisco web site for documents on Pix configuration. Good luck! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alfred Saulo Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:books on security specialization Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: books on security specialization
And unfortunately, that is that! I wonder why there isn't a more technical manual? -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:11 AM To: Alfred Saulo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: books on security specialization Designing Network Security by Merike Kaeo Cisco Press Cisco Access Lists Field Guide by Held and Hundley McGraw-Hill Check out the Cisco web site for documents on Pix configuration. Good luck! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alfred Saulo Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: books on security specialization Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
books on security specialization
Just wanted to know if anyone knows any good books or study material for the security specialization test... Thanks. Alfred ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
