Re: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-04 Thread Brad Dodds
why not roll it out in a business environment?
IS put it on my production workstation in conjunction with newest ad aware,
I also use it on my test box at work (State ISP) and all my boxes at home.
I have even started putting it on anyones machines I do work on, and
recommend it to anyone who asks.
As for mail, I have been moderately satisfied with mailwasher
www.mailwasher.com which is another freeware program you can use to bounce
and blacklist emails back at offending spam servers-and now supports web
based mail clients like hotmail.  When I first started using mailwasher, it
DRASTICALLY reduced the number of spam messages I got everyday. (from about
70+ to less than 30)

""Wilmes, Rusty""  wrote in message
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> compelling indeed!  I wish someone would make an enterprise level spyware
> remover (or integrate one into virus scanning).  The best one I've seen is
> spybot but it's not exactly something I'd rollout in a business
environment
> (of course, it might be easier to manage that than to manage gator on
every
> 9x client.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]
>
>
> There's a compelling argument for scheduled virus and spyware
> scans/updates..
>
>
> Brian
>
> The path to a desireable destination
> is often more difficult than the path to stay where you are.
>
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Wilmes, Rusty wrote:
>
> > I've been trying to scrounge up the time to build one of these...
> >
> > http://lawmonkey.org/anti-spam.html
> >
> > combination of bayesian and razor on openbsd acting as an MTA.
> >
> > About 1/2 our staff installed freeware screensaver (read: gator) on
their
> > computers and our spam has gone through the roof.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:36 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]
> >
> >
> > Reimer, Fred wrote:
> > >
> > > It is an attempt by the SPAMers to avoid SPAM software that
> > > takes a hash of
> > > the SPAM and blocks SPAM on machines based on these hash
> > > values.  There are
> > > some anti-SPAM "solutions" out there that basically relies on
> > > the users to
> > > mark email as SPAM.  When they do, the client machines send the
> > > hash of the
> > > SPAM up to the service provider, which shares these hashes with
> > > all other
> > > subscribers.  So, if the same exact SPAM is sent to another
> > > user it would
> > > automatically get blocked.  These random characters change the
> > > hash value,
> > > and hence this method of blocking SPAM is ineffective.
> > >
> > > Use a Bayesian filter program for your SPAM.  I have 3755
> > > emails in my "Junk
> > > Mail" folder now, and I empty it out last on July 18th.  Check
> > > out
> > > www.Junk-Out.com.
> > >
> > > Fred Reimer - CCNA
> >
> > Someone should develop a SPAM filter that looks for certain types of
> > randomness within a message. This would be difficult, but certainly not
> > impossible. You'd have to be pretty creative about it but it ought to be
> > possible to devise an algorithm that could detect that sort of random
> > line--often found in the subject line--and flag it as SPAM.
> >
> > I haven't heard of a Bayesian filter before. I'm going to go find out
more
> > about that right now.
> >
> > John
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RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-04 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
compelling indeed!  I wish someone would make an enterprise level spyware
remover (or integrate one into virus scanning).  The best one I've seen is
spybot but it's not exactly something I'd rollout in a business environment
(of course, it might be easier to manage that than to manage gator on every
9x client.

-Original Message-
From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]


There's a compelling argument for scheduled virus and spyware
scans/updates..


Brian

The path to a desireable destination
is often more difficult than the path to stay where you are.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Wilmes, Rusty wrote:

> I've been trying to scrounge up the time to build one of these...
>
> http://lawmonkey.org/anti-spam.html
>
> combination of bayesian and razor on openbsd acting as an MTA.
>
> About 1/2 our staff installed freeware screensaver (read: gator) on their
> computers and our spam has gone through the roof.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]
>
>
> Reimer, Fred wrote:
> >
> > It is an attempt by the SPAMers to avoid SPAM software that
> > takes a hash of
> > the SPAM and blocks SPAM on machines based on these hash
> > values.  There are
> > some anti-SPAM "solutions" out there that basically relies on
> > the users to
> > mark email as SPAM.  When they do, the client machines send the
> > hash of the
> > SPAM up to the service provider, which shares these hashes with
> > all other
> > subscribers.  So, if the same exact SPAM is sent to another
> > user it would
> > automatically get blocked.  These random characters change the
> > hash value,
> > and hence this method of blocking SPAM is ineffective.
> >
> > Use a Bayesian filter program for your SPAM.  I have 3755
> > emails in my "Junk
> > Mail" folder now, and I empty it out last on July 18th.  Check
> > out
> > www.Junk-Out.com.
> >
> > Fred Reimer - CCNA
>
> Someone should develop a SPAM filter that looks for certain types of
> randomness within a message. This would be difficult, but certainly not
> impossible. You'd have to be pretty creative about it but it ought to be
> possible to devise an algorithm that could detect that sort of random
> line--often found in the subject line--and flag it as SPAM.
>
> I haven't heard of a Bayesian filter before. I'm going to go find out more
> about that right now.
>
> John
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RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-04 Thread Brian
There's a compelling argument for scheduled virus and spyware
scans/updates..


Brian

The path to a desireable destination
is often more difficult than the path to stay where you are.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Wilmes, Rusty wrote:

> I've been trying to scrounge up the time to build one of these...
>
> http://lawmonkey.org/anti-spam.html
>
> combination of bayesian and razor on openbsd acting as an MTA.
>
> About 1/2 our staff installed freeware screensaver (read: gator) on their
> computers and our spam has gone through the roof.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]
>
>
> Reimer, Fred wrote:
> >
> > It is an attempt by the SPAMers to avoid SPAM software that
> > takes a hash of
> > the SPAM and blocks SPAM on machines based on these hash
> > values.  There are
> > some anti-SPAM "solutions" out there that basically relies on
> > the users to
> > mark email as SPAM.  When they do, the client machines send the
> > hash of the
> > SPAM up to the service provider, which shares these hashes with
> > all other
> > subscribers.  So, if the same exact SPAM is sent to another
> > user it would
> > automatically get blocked.  These random characters change the
> > hash value,
> > and hence this method of blocking SPAM is ineffective.
> >
> > Use a Bayesian filter program for your SPAM.  I have 3755
> > emails in my "Junk
> > Mail" folder now, and I empty it out last on July 18th.  Check
> > out
> > www.Junk-Out.com.
> >
> > Fred Reimer - CCNA
>
> Someone should develop a SPAM filter that looks for certain types of
> randomness within a message. This would be difficult, but certainly not
> impossible. You'd have to be pretty creative about it but it ought to be
> possible to devise an algorithm that could detect that sort of random
> line--often found in the subject line--and flag it as SPAM.
>
> I haven't heard of a Bayesian filter before. I'm going to go find out more
> about that right now.
>
> John
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RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-04 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
I've been trying to scrounge up the time to build one of these...

http://lawmonkey.org/anti-spam.html

combination of bayesian and razor on openbsd acting as an MTA.

About 1/2 our staff installed freeware screensaver (read: gator) on their
computers and our spam has gone through the roof.



-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]


Reimer, Fred wrote:
> 
> It is an attempt by the SPAMers to avoid SPAM software that
> takes a hash of
> the SPAM and blocks SPAM on machines based on these hash
> values.  There are
> some anti-SPAM "solutions" out there that basically relies on
> the users to
> mark email as SPAM.  When they do, the client machines send the
> hash of the
> SPAM up to the service provider, which shares these hashes with
> all other
> subscribers.  So, if the same exact SPAM is sent to another
> user it would
> automatically get blocked.  These random characters change the
> hash value,
> and hence this method of blocking SPAM is ineffective.
> 
> Use a Bayesian filter program for your SPAM.  I have 3755
> emails in my "Junk
> Mail" folder now, and I empty it out last on July 18th.  Check
> out
> www.Junk-Out.com.
> 
> Fred Reimer - CCNA

Someone should develop a SPAM filter that looks for certain types of
randomness within a message. This would be difficult, but certainly not
impossible. You'd have to be pretty creative about it but it ought to be
possible to devise an algorithm that could detect that sort of random
line--often found in the subject line--and flag it as SPAM.

I haven't heard of a Bayesian filter before. I'm going to go find out more
about that right now.

John
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RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-04 Thread Reimer, Fred
Must not be listening to Doug on the nmsusers.org site lists.  He plans on
using Bayesian filters on network management events to predict causal
effects of network issues.  Considering that AOL must have boat loads of
events, from syslogs, to SNMP traps, to events generated by network
management systems, it may help break down the deluge into a manageable
amount.  Bayesian filters have been around for a while, and are used in
bunches of different applications.  It's just recently over the last few
years that they have been applied to SPAM identification.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

Reimer, Fred wrote:
> 
> It is an attempt by the SPAMers to avoid SPAM software that
> takes a hash of
> the SPAM and blocks SPAM on machines based on these hash
> values.  There are
> some anti-SPAM "solutions" out there that basically relies on
> the users to
> mark email as SPAM.  When they do, the client machines send the
> hash of the
> SPAM up to the service provider, which shares these hashes with
> all other
> subscribers.  So, if the same exact SPAM is sent to another
> user it would
> automatically get blocked.  These random characters change the
> hash value,
> and hence this method of blocking SPAM is ineffective.
> 
> Use a Bayesian filter program for your SPAM.  I have 3755
> emails in my "Junk
> Mail" folder now, and I empty it out last on July 18th.  Check
> out
> www.Junk-Out.com.
> 
> Fred Reimer - CCNA

Someone should develop a SPAM filter that looks for certain types of
randomness within a message. This would be difficult, but certainly not
impossible. You'd have to be pretty creative about it but it ought to be
possible to devise an algorithm that could detect that sort of random
line--often found in the subject line--and flag it as SPAM.

I haven't heard of a Bayesian filter before. I'm going to go find out more
about that right now.

John
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RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-03 Thread Reimer, Fred
It is an attempt by the SPAMers to avoid SPAM software that takes a hash of
the SPAM and blocks SPAM on machines based on these hash values.  There are
some anti-SPAM "solutions" out there that basically relies on the users to
mark email as SPAM.  When they do, the client machines send the hash of the
SPAM up to the service provider, which shares these hashes with all other
subscribers.  So, if the same exact SPAM is sent to another user it would
automatically get blocked.  These random characters change the hash value,
and hence this method of blocking SPAM is ineffective.

Use a Bayesian filter program for your SPAM.  I have 3755 emails in my "Junk
Mail" folder now, and I empty it out last on July 18th.  Check out
www.Junk-Out.com.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050


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From: DeVoe, Charles (PKI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

Often in SPAM emails I get some sort of text that looks like this

lmlbjot- qribr^jin(nezl(zvy -temwvnj

Can anyone explain what this is?
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RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-03 Thread John Neiberger
Reimer, Fred wrote:
> 
> It is an attempt by the SPAMers to avoid SPAM software that
> takes a hash of
> the SPAM and blocks SPAM on machines based on these hash
> values.  There are
> some anti-SPAM "solutions" out there that basically relies on
> the users to
> mark email as SPAM.  When they do, the client machines send the
> hash of the
> SPAM up to the service provider, which shares these hashes with
> all other
> subscribers.  So, if the same exact SPAM is sent to another
> user it would
> automatically get blocked.  These random characters change the
> hash value,
> and hence this method of blocking SPAM is ineffective.
> 
> Use a Bayesian filter program for your SPAM.  I have 3755
> emails in my "Junk
> Mail" folder now, and I empty it out last on July 18th.  Check
> out
> www.Junk-Out.com.
> 
> Fred Reimer - CCNA

Someone should develop a SPAM filter that looks for certain types of
randomness within a message. This would be difficult, but certainly not
impossible. You'd have to be pretty creative about it but it ought to be
possible to devise an algorithm that could detect that sort of random
line--often found in the subject line--and flag it as SPAM.

I haven't heard of a Bayesian filter before. I'm going to go find out more
about that right now.

John


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RE: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-03 Thread Vijay Ramcharan
It's an effort by the spammer to change the signature (checksum) of the
spam email by inserting random characters.  It gets around spam filters
which use a signature/checksum technique. I believe the open source
Vipul's Razor uses signatures. 

Vijay Ramcharan


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From: DeVoe, Charles (PKI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]


Often in SPAM emails I get some sort of text that looks like this

lmlbjot- qribr^jin(nezl(zvy -temwvnj

Can anyone explain what this is?
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OT Gibberish in email [7:74740]

2003-09-03 Thread DeVoe, Charles (PKI)
Often in SPAM emails I get some sort of text that looks like this

lmlbjot- qribr^jin(nezl(zvy -temwvnj

Can anyone explain what this is?




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Re: gibberish

2000-12-26 Thread ML

Looks like a Checkpoint license, after three months of waiting for it.

HA HA
Holiday Humor

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gibberish

2000-12-26 Thread Chuck Larrieu

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