[c-nsp] Central services VPNs

2011-12-18 Thread MKS
So I have a MPLS vpn question for the masterminds on this list;)

I have two central services VRFs, A and B and I need route leaking
(same import/export) between them to optimize traffic flow. The reason
I need two VRFs is that I have to specifiy a different default gw for
each VRF.
But the problem is that this setup eats up tcam space in the 6500 we
use, and doesn't scale then adding the third or forth VRF, then the
vrfs contain 10k routes.

Can this be done in a scaleale way (tcam) but still be able to
optimize traffic flow and support different default GWs

Regards
MKS
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Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router

2011-12-18 Thread Robert Hass
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:

 What throughput can bigger/newer plattform like Sup32/ASR provide with
 netflow ?

Sup32 is PFC3B so same as Sup720/PFC3B. PFC3B supports 128K NetFlow
entries. For us it was OK for ~2Gbps traffic with smalls customers
traffic from BRAS (a lot of flows). If you have Sup720/PFC3B then do
the POC.

 The NSE-* have hardware forwarding that never really worked, so the
 whole product line was abandoned.  Short summary.  Don't Go There.

Not really. It's true for 7200 and NSE-1. But not true for 7304 and
NSE-100 and NSE-150. We're still using around 7 of 7304/NSE-100 and
NSE-150 based as access-routers at happy with them.

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Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router

2011-12-18 Thread sthaug
  The NSE-* have hardware forwarding that never really worked, so the
  whole product line was abandoned.  Short summary.  Don't Go There.
 
 Not really. It's true for 7200 and NSE-1. But not true for 7304 and
 NSE-100 and NSE-150. We're still using around 7 of 7304/NSE-100 and
 NSE-150 based as access-routers at happy with them.

Experiences evidently vary. We phased out our last 7304 in February
this year - and we were happy to see the end of it.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no

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Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router

2011-12-18 Thread Tom Storey
7300 series will also never have 4 byte ASN support ?

Last I heard, admittedly over a year ago, but likely a side issue to the
topic.


On 18 December 2011 11:45, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:

   The NSE-* have hardware forwarding that never really worked, so the
   whole product line was abandoned.  Short summary.  Don't Go There.
 
  Not really. It's true for 7200 and NSE-1. But not true for 7304 and
  NSE-100 and NSE-150. We're still using around 7 of 7304/NSE-100 and
  NSE-150 based as access-routers at happy with them.

 Experiences evidently vary. We phased out our last 7304 in February
 this year - and we were happy to see the end of it.

 Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no

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[c-nsp] Does 7609 have problems with time-range in QoS?

2011-12-18 Thread Peter Olsson
7609 with 12.2(33)SRD6, ADVENTERPRISEK9.

7600-ES+20G3C in slot 8.

The configuration below works fine in 3945, but not in
7609. Of the two BULK classes, the one that is written
first in the policy-map is matched with no consideration
to the time-range. The other never gets any matches.

The time-range and access-list says active or inactive
at the right times, so it seems fine but doesn't work in
the policy-map. Right now for example:

#sh time-range OFFICEHOURS
time-range entry: OFFICEHOURS (inactive)
   periodic weekdays 7:00 to 18:00
   used in: IP ACL entry
   used in: IP ACL entry

#sh access-lists 111
Extended IP access list 111
10 permit ip host xxx any time-range OFFICEHOURS (inactive)

But still:
#sh policy-map interface gi8/4.400
Class-map: BULK_OFFICEHOURS (match-all)
  131357 packets, 124333424 bytes
  5 minute offered rate 93000 bps, drop rate  bps
Class-map: BULK (match-all)
  0 packets, 0 bytes
  5 minute offered rate  bps, drop rate  bps


Is this a bug in 7609?
Should I do the configuration in another way in 7609?


class-map match-all BULK
  match access-group 112

class-map match-all BULK_OFFICEHOURS
  match access-group 111
  match access-group 112

class-map match-all VOICE
  match ip dscp ef 

policy-map CORE-WAN-EDGE_child
  class VOICE
police 500
priority
  class BULK_OFFICEHOURS
police 500
  class BULK
police 4000
  class class-default
 random-detect dscp-based aggregate

policy-map CORE-WAN-EDGE_parent_100Mbps
  class class-default
shape average 1
   service-policy CORE-WAN-EDGE_child

policy-map CORE-WAN-EDGE_parent_50Mbps
  class class-default
shape average 5000
   service-policy CORE-WAN-EDGE_child

interface GigabitEthernet8/4.400
 bandwidth 10
 encapsulation dot1Q 400
 ip address 10.40.0.1 255.255.255.0
 ip flow ingress
 service-policy output CORE-WAN-EDGE_parent_100Mbps

access-list 111 permit ip any any time-range OFFICEHOURS

access-list 112 permit ip host xxx any

time-range OFFICEHOURS
 periodic weekdays 7:00 to 18:00



I also tried these changes to get rid of the dual match in
the BULK_OFFICEHOURS class-map, but it had the same problem:

class-map match-all BULK
  match access-group 112

class-map match-all BULK_OFFICEHOURS
  match access-group 111

access-list 111 permit ip host xxx any time-range OFFICEHOURS

access-list 112 permit ip host xxx any time-range OTHER_HOURS

time-range OFFICEHOURS
 periodic weekdays 7:00 to 18:00

time-range OTHER_HOURS
 periodic weekdays 0:00 to 6:59
 periodic weekdays 18:01 to 23:59
 periodic weekend 0:00 to 23:59


Thanks!

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[c-nsp] ASR 901 fib size

2011-12-18 Thread Robert Hass
Hi
What size of FIB for IPv4/IPv6 has ASR 901 ? I cannot find this
information in documentation and datasheets.

Rob
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Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router

2011-12-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On Sunday, December 18, 2011 03:06:18 AM Andrew Miehs wrote:

 Apart from running something like running lots of E1s,
 x21 interfaces I would no longer purchase a new 7200. As
 for second hand boxes - if you can get a service
 contract for them, ok.

Same.

If we're buying for small-to-medium Ethernet requirements, 
the ASR1000's are the platform to pick on the Cisco side of 
things.

If we need low-speed non-Ethernet, the 7200 is hard to beat, 
even today.

 I still remember a friend of mine buying 4x 7500s filled
 with VIPs and ?Supervisors?… Every card, and even the
 chassis all had problems! But it was not that the cards
 didn't work - they booted, came on line, and then
 crashed after 2 days, etc. He spent 6 months debugging
 the issues with these boxes due to that and EVERY single
 piece needed replacing. Needless to say, it ended up
 costing the company more than it would have to buy new.

I don't think it would be fair to compare the 7500 to the 
7200. They may share port adapters, but that's about it.

The NPE-G1 and NPE-G2 on SRE are pretty modern if you're not 
looking at pushing lots of bandwidth. It's a shame the 
platform has been discontinued in the long-term, but it's 
still has miles to run in the short-to-medium term.

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 901 fib size

2011-12-18 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

On 2011-12-18 14:03, Robert Hass wrote:

Hi
What size of FIB for IPv4/IPv6 has ASR 901 ? I cannot find this
information in documentation and datasheets.


It's 12k for IPv4 + 8k ARP entries (local hosts).
IPv6 is not supported yet.

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Re: [c-nsp] Configure MPLS on Cisco 3945

2011-12-18 Thread John Gitau
Welcome to cisco's new licensing model. It will drive you insane if you don't 
engage your sales rep before placing an order, or at least reading through 
their site...

Sent from my iPad

On 18 Dec 2011, at 01:21, Andriy Bilous andriy.bil...@gmail.com wrote:

 You gonna need DATA license to enable MPLS capabilities.
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps10616/white_paper_c11_556985.html#wp9000809
 
 On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Righa Shake righa.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am trying to configure MPLS on a cisco 3945 with the below features however
 the command mpls ip, or tag-switching are not accessible.
 
 System image file is flash0:c3900e-universalk9-mz.SPA.151-2.T1.bin
 Technology Package License Information for Module:'c3900e'
 
 
 TechnologyTechnology-package  Technology-package
  Current   Type  Next reboot
 -
 ipbaseipbasek9  Permanent ipbasek9
 security  securityk9Permanent securityk9
 ucNone  None  None
 data  None  None  None
 
 I have managed to configure vrf instances withouth any problem.
 Any assistance in enabling MPLS (MPBGP) on the router will be highly
 appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 Righa Shake
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Re: [c-nsp] Configure MPLS on Cisco 3945

2011-12-18 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

On 2011-12-17 22:57, Righa Shake wrote:

Hi,

Am trying to configure MPLS on a cisco 3945 with the below features however
the command mpls ip, or tag-switching are not accessible.


You need 'data' license for MPLS. You should have trial option if that's
newly shipped 3900, as it's now shipped with grace period of 600+ weeks.

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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 901 fib size

2011-12-18 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 02:48:36PM +0100, ?ukasz Bromirski wrote:
 On 2011-12-18 14:03, Robert Hass wrote:
 What size of FIB for IPv4/IPv6 has ASR 901 ? I cannot find this
 information in documentation and datasheets.
 
 It's 12k for IPv4 + 8k ARP entries (local hosts).
 IPv6 is not supported yet.

Is it just me, or is someone inside Cisco not really listening very 
closely to what John Chambers said about IPv6 being committed to IPv6
all across the board, all our devices, all our services, roughly a
year ago...?

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCCgVh8wFdA, at about 0:50)

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Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router

2011-12-18 Thread Andrew Miehs

On 18/12/2011, at 2:28 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:

 I still remember a friend of mine buying 4x 7500s filled
 with VIPs and ?Supervisors?… Every card, and even the
 chassis all had problems! But it was not that the cards
 didn't work - they booted, came on line, and then
 crashed after 2 days, etc. He spent 6 months debugging
 the issues with these boxes due to that and EVERY single
 piece needed replacing. Needless to say, it ended up
 costing the company more than it would have to buy new.
 
 I don't think it would be fair to compare the 7500 to the 
 7200. They may share port adapters, but that's about it.

Hi Mark,

this wasn't meant a s speed comparison, but rather what can go wrong if you buy 
second hand without service.

Andrew
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 901 fib size

2011-12-18 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

On 2011-12-18 21:03, Gert Doering wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 02:48:36PM +0100, ?ukasz Bromirski wrote:

On 2011-12-18 14:03, Robert Hass wrote:

What size of FIB for IPv4/IPv6 has ASR 901 ? I cannot find this
information in documentation and datasheets.


It's 12k for IPv4 + 8k ARP entries (local hosts).
IPv6 is not supported yet.


Is it just me, or is someone inside Cisco not really listening very
closely to what John Chambers said about IPv6 being committed to IPv6
all across the board, all our devices, all our services, roughly a
year ago...?


:)

IPv6 will be supported in second software release. I know... but that's
the way it is.

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Re: [c-nsp] Configure MPLS on Cisco 3945

2011-12-18 Thread Per Carlson
 You need 'data' license for MPLS. You should have trial option if that's
 newly shipped 3900, as it's now shipped with grace period of 600+ weeks.

600+ *weeks*!? A 10 year trial period is nice :-) If that's the
default, I might be less negative about the licensing system.

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Re: [c-nsp] Configure MPLS on Cisco 3945

2011-12-18 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

On 2011-12-18 23:19, Per Carlson wrote:

You need 'data' license for MPLS. You should have trial option if that's
newly shipped 3900, as it's now shipped with grace period of 600+ weeks.


600+ *weeks*!? A 10 year trial period is nice :-) If that's the
default, I might be less negative about the licensing system.


Yep. Policy change. Not directly, but documented here:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/sw_activation/SA_on_ISR.html

Also, search google for people with 624/623 weeks of trial period in
their 'show license [...]' output.

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Re: [c-nsp] Configure MPLS on Cisco 3945

2011-12-18 Thread Andriy Bilous
That came in 15.0(4)M iirc, called 'right-to-use' license and
basically reverts to the old licensing model. The juggling with PAKs
was a nightmare.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Per Carlson pe...@hemmop.com wrote:
 You need 'data' license for MPLS. You should have trial option if that's
 newly shipped 3900, as it's now shipped with grace period of 600+ weeks.

 600+ *weeks*!? A 10 year trial period is nice :-) If that's the
 default, I might be less negative about the licensing system.

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Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router

2011-12-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, December 19, 2011 04:26:37 AM Andrew Miehs wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 
 this wasn't meant a s speed comparison, but rather what
 can go wrong if you buy second hand without service.

Agree.

We've had 7200's fail on us, both new and refurbished. 
Either way, getting a yearly renewable support contract 
can't hurt, yes.

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] HEADS UP: vlan_mgr crashing in NX-OS 5.2(3)

2011-12-18 Thread Ryan Hughes
Looks like 5.2.3 has been deferred, 5.2.3a has been posted because of this
bug identified last week:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/deferral/Deferral_Notice_N7K_523.html

Reason for Deferral:
DDTS No(s):
CSCtw89936http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fetchBugDetailsbugId=CSCtw89936
Headline: vlan_mgr may crash when ISSU to 5.2(3) when running 'show vlan'

RSH

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Bernhard Schmidt be...@birkenwald.dewrote:

 Bernhard Schmidt be...@birkenwald.de wrote:

  Now show vlan works fine, so if someone wants to reproduce I guess you
  should ISSU from 5.2(1) to 5.2(3), then execute show vlan.

 Update, according to TAC it could be related to having the default
 reserved VLAN range moved with the command (and reload of course)

 # system vlan 3300 reserve

 then doing ISSU. By default VLANs in the 39something to 4094 are
 reserved, but we moved the reservation due to our test-plan using VLANs
 in the 40xx range.

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Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router

2011-12-18 Thread Frank Bulk
It's too bad that they don't have a release that supports both IPv6 PBR and 
DHCPv6-PD with static route insertion.

Frank

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mark Tinka
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:28 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router

On Sunday, December 18, 2011 03:06:18 AM Andrew Miehs wrote:

 Apart from running something like running lots of E1s,
 x21 interfaces I would no longer purchase a new 7200. As
 for second hand boxes - if you can get a service
 contract for them, ok.

Same.

If we're buying for small-to-medium Ethernet requirements, 
the ASR1000's are the platform to pick on the Cisco side of 
things.

If we need low-speed non-Ethernet, the 7200 is hard to beat, 
even today.

 I still remember a friend of mine buying 4x 7500s filled
 with VIPs and ?Supervisors?… Every card, and even the
 chassis all had problems! But it was not that the cards
 didn't work - they booted, came on line, and then
 crashed after 2 days, etc. He spent 6 months debugging
 the issues with these boxes due to that and EVERY single
 piece needed replacing. Needless to say, it ended up
 costing the company more than it would have to buy new.

I don't think it would be fair to compare the 7500 to the 
7200. They may share port adapters, but that's about it.

The NPE-G1 and NPE-G2 on SRE are pretty modern if you're not 
looking at pushing lots of bandwidth. It's a shame the 
platform has been discontinued in the long-term, but it's 
still has miles to run in the short-to-medium term.

Mark.


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