[c-nsp] MAC-to-IP script on IOS

2012-05-24 Thread Hansen, Ulrich Vestergaard B. (E W EN R&D DT ES 1 2)
Gents,

Have anyone come across a script that could yield the IP address of a given 
mac-address when invoked on a Layer 3 Router?
I would assume that you would have to select the given interface (as it could 
be any interface) and the router should start arp-ing all hosts on a given 
subnet returning the result when finished executing the script?

Assumptions is that you know the logical subnet where the mac-address reside or 
maybe it could be invoked with a "all" interface command to run the script on 
all logical interfaces.
Anyone seen it?

With best regards,
Ulrich Vestergaard B. Hansen

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Nexus 5548UP w/Fibre Channel

2012-05-24 Thread Alexander Lim
Reset/reload of N5K is very fast right?

Regards,
Alexander Lim

On May 25, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists  wrote:

> On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:30:40 +, you wrote:
> 
>> I'm wondering if anyone has any experience/tips/advice when running
>> Fibre Channel on the Nexus 5548UP platform.
> 
> Yeah, we have customers doing that and do that ourselves.
> 
>> I've done a little bit of research, and understand that the FC ports
>> have to start at the back end of the chassis, and that to switch a
>> port from Ethernet mode over to FC mode, you need to reload the whole
>> switch.
> 
> Yeah, currently the ports have to be contiguous, and with FC at the
> high end. If you use a module, you don't have to reload the whole
> switch when changing the configuration. You can just reset the module.
> When running FCoE, you don't have to reset/reload anything.
> 
> To me, FC and FCoE on the N5000s is pretty mature and absolutely
> production ready.
> 
> -A
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Nexus 5548UP w/Fibre Channel

2012-05-24 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:30:40 +, you wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone has any experience/tips/advice when running
> Fibre Channel on the Nexus 5548UP platform.

Yeah, we have customers doing that and do that ourselves.

> I've done a little bit of research, and understand that the FC ports
> have to start at the back end of the chassis, and that to switch a
> port from Ethernet mode over to FC mode, you need to reload the whole
> switch.

Yeah, currently the ports have to be contiguous, and with FC at the
high end. If you use a module, you don't have to reload the whole
switch when changing the configuration. You can just reset the module.
When running FCoE, you don't have to reset/reload anything.

To me, FC and FCoE on the N5000s is pretty mature and absolutely
production ready.

-A

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[c-nsp] Cisco Nexus 5548UP w/Fibre Channel

2012-05-24 Thread Blecker, Christoph
Hello,
I'm wondering if anyone has any experience/tips/advice when running Fibre 
Channel on the Nexus 5548UP platform. I've done a little bit of research, and 
understand that the FC ports have to start at the back end of the chassis, and 
that to switch a port from Ethernet mode over to FC mode, you need to reload 
the whole switch. However, I'm wondering if there are any other operational 
issues anybody has run into (IOS bugs, issues with certain SFPs, things to 
test/watch out for, etc). We've always had a separate storage fabric from the 
main data fabric, so it's a new thing to have them both living on the same 
switch.

Thanks and best regards,
Christoph Blecker
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Re: [c-nsp] Rapid-PVST and RSTP compatibility

2012-05-24 Thread Friedrich, Gregor

No it's not compatible, there will be problems!   Will work only with MSTP, but 
MSTP is hard  to manage: synchronize all VLANs, INSTANCES and  Revisions  on 
all Switches ... 
Important:  test the MSTP   before in a lab! 

Gregor


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> boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Covalciuc Piotr
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:16 PM
> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: [c-nsp] Rapid-PVST and RSTP compatibility
> 
> Hello,
> 
> We have a network built on CISCO switches with Rapid-PVST.
> Now, we want to integrate in the network the DELL PowerConnect
> switches, which supports RSTP only.
> 
> Does the Rapid-PVST compatible with RSTP?
> 
> Thank you,
> Peter
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Re: [c-nsp] Frustration with XR "show interface" and pipe commands

2012-05-24 Thread Tony Tauber
Seems like improved lexical parsing to me actually. Both these worked the
same way:
sh int | include "up|rate"
sh int | utility egrep "up|rate"

Where everything enclosed in the quotes is passed to the command.
You could also add a trailing space to "up" so that you don't match words
like "supressed"

sh int | utility egrep "up |rate"
^

Tony

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:19 AM, John Neiberger wrote:

> Someone asked me how to do something very simple and I'm finding it
> very difficult! He wants to do a "show interface" command and show
> only lines with "up" or "rate" in it. In IOS, this was simply "show
> int | i up|rate". That second pipe for OR does not seem to work in XR
> and we can't figure out how to do something this simple. I even tried
> piping the command to egrep and frgrep, but couldn't figure out how to
> do an OR in a way that XR understands.
>
> Any ideas how to pipe the output of a command through an "include"
> that has an OR operator?
>
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Re: [c-nsp] Frustration with XR "show interface" and pipe commands

2012-05-24 Thread Ronan Mullally
Hi John,

On Thu, 24 May 2012, John Neiberger wrote:

> Someone asked me how to do something very simple and I'm finding it
> very difficult! He wants to do a "show interface" command and show
> only lines with "up" or "rate" in it. In IOS, this was simply "show
> int | i up|rate". That second pipe for OR does not seem to work in XR
> and we can't figure out how to do something this simple. I even tried
> piping the command to egrep and frgrep, but couldn't figure out how to
> do an OR in a way that XR understands.
>
> Any ideas how to pipe the output of a command through an "include"
> that has an OR operator?

sh interface | i "up|rate"


-Ronan
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Matlock, Kenneth L
Think about the buffering on a chassis like a 7200 like this.

You have 2 buffers on input, the RX ring (a hardware buffer), and the
input queue (a software buffer)

A packet comes in on the wire, and goes into the RX ring. That generates
a CPU interrupt. The CPU needs to finish its current task then go
address the interrupt. It takes the packet off the RX ring and puts it
into the input queue.  The CPU then takes the packet from the input
queue, applies ACLs/NAT/etc to it before deciding if/how to forward it.

Now, keep in mind that a 7200 only has an RX ring of *128*.  Worst-case
at 64 byte packets that's only 8192 bytes of hardware buffer space. 

At 1gb/sec (say a small burst) that only gives the CPU about 60
*Microseconds* to finish what it's doing and grab that first packet off
the RX ring before the queue fills up and you get an overrun. 

The only real fixes to this are 

1) Even out the traffic to remove the bursts (traffic shaping upstream)
2) Decrease the CPU to let it better handle the bursts
3) Get a bigger box that does the hardware-software transfers via
hardware, not on the CPU.

You can see how much of the CPU is being taken up by a 'show proc cpu'
(the %x/%y portion) %x shows the CPU utilization, the %y shows how much
is interrupt traffic. 

Ken Matlock
Network Analyst
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Re: [c-nsp] Frustration with XR "show interface" and pipe commands

2012-05-24 Thread Fredrik Vöcks
show interfaces | include "(up|down)"

/F

On 24 May 2012 16:19, John Neiberger  wrote:

> Someone asked me how to do something very simple and I'm finding it
> very difficult! He wants to do a "show interface" command and show
> only lines with "up" or "rate" in it. In IOS, this was simply "show
> int | i up|rate". That second pipe for OR does not seem to work in XR
> and we can't figure out how to do something this simple. I even tried
> piping the command to egrep and frgrep, but couldn't figure out how to
> do an OR in a way that XR understands.
>
> Any ideas how to pipe the output of a command through an "include"
> that has an OR operator?
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Re: [c-nsp] Frustration with XR "show interface" and pipe commands

2012-05-24 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Thu, 24 May 2012 08:19:40 -0600, you wrote:

> Someone asked me how to do something very simple and I'm finding it
> very difficult! He wants to do a "show interface" command and show
> only lines with "up" or "rate" in it.

Put your regex in quotes:

  sh int | i "up|rate"

-A

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[c-nsp] Frustration with XR "show interface" and pipe commands

2012-05-24 Thread John Neiberger
Someone asked me how to do something very simple and I'm finding it
very difficult! He wants to do a "show interface" command and show
only lines with "up" or "rate" in it. In IOS, this was simply "show
int | i up|rate". That second pipe for OR does not seem to work in XR
and we can't figure out how to do something this simple. I even tried
piping the command to egrep and frgrep, but couldn't figure out how to
do an OR in a way that XR understands.

Any ideas how to pipe the output of a command through an "include"
that has an OR operator?
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-05-24 14:37 +0200), Gert Doering wrote:

> I do not run MST anywhere, so I'm not sure how portfast and MST interact.

MST with single instance is same as RSTP from this perspective. If you
don't configure non-MST participating port as edge port (or cisco term
portfast) then you are waiting 30s for permission from that port.

When all ports in switch have given permission, then the switch will give
permission to upstream.
So any non-edge port, will delay this permission for 30s.  (You knew this
as you know RST, this is benefit of other).

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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread gal.9...@googlemail.com
Hi,

> After the port-fast discussion back to your original question. The first
> thing to look is the interface controller (show controller , show ip
> interface) and the logging to make sure I don't have speed/duplex or
> flow-control problems.

router2#show controller
...
Interface GigabitEthernet0/1 (idb 0x65C58CDC)
Hardware is BCM1250 Internal MAC (Revision B2/B3)
  Network connection mode is AUTO
  network link is up
  Config is 1Gbps, Full Duplex
  Selected media-type is GBIC
  GBIC type is 1000BaseSX
...
...
PHY says Link is UP, Speed 1000Mbps, Full-Duplex [AUTONEG Done]
  Physical Interface - GBIC
  AUTONEG - Our ability is 1000M/FD Pause Capable (Asymmetric)
  AUTONEG - Partner ability is 1000M/HD 1000M/FD

router2#sh ip int Gi0/1
GigabitEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up
  Internet address is x.x.x.x/28
  Broadcast address is 255.255.255.255
  Address determined by non-volatile memory
  MTU is 1500 bytes
  Helper address is not set
  Directed broadcast forwarding is disabled
  Outgoing access list is not set
  Inbound  access list is not set
  Proxy ARP is disabled
  Local Proxy ARP is disabled
  Security level is default
  Split horizon is enabled
  ICMP redirects are always sent
  ICMP unreachables are always sent
  ICMP mask replies are never sent
  IP fast switching is enabled
  IP fast switching on the same interface is disabled
  IP Flow switching is disabled
  IP CEF switching is enabled
  IP Feature Fast switching turbo vector
  IP Feature CEF switching turbo vector
  IP multicast fast switching is enabled
  IP multicast distributed fast switching is disabled
  IP route-cache flags are Fast, CEF
  Router Discovery is disabled
  IP output packet accounting is disabled
  IP access violation accounting is disabled
  TCP/IP header compression is disabled
  RTP/IP header compression is disabled
  Policy routing is disabled
  Network address translation is disabled
  BGP Policy Mapping is disabled
  WCCP Redirect outbound is disabled
  WCCP Redirect inbound is disabled
  WCCP Redirect exclude is disabled

Next step is to disable autonegotiation and set speed/duplex hardcoded
on both sides.

BTW, disabling netflow decreases the CPU utilization dramatically :-)

After increase the hold-queue from 100 to 150 and disabling netflow the input
errors are still alive:
(clearing the counter nearly 8 hours before)

sh int Gi0/1
GigabitEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is BCM1250 Internal MAC, address is 0006.52f4.d81b (bia
0006.52f4.d81b)
  Internet address is 94.103.161.235/28
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, link type is autonegotiation, media type is SX
  output flow-control is XON, input flow-control is XON
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 07:47:20
  Input queue: 0/150/2026/2 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 6191000 bits/sec, 1385 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 7266000 bits/sec, 2079 packets/sec
 40892419 packets input, 1638492851 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 773 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 880 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 880 overrun, 0 ignored
 0 watchdog, 14448 multicast, 0 pause input
 0 input packets with dribble condition detected
 53498590 packets output, 3784646524 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 467 unknown protocol drops
 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out


Regards





On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Erich Hohermuth  wrote:
> Hi
>
> After the port-fast discussion back to your original question. The first
> thing to look is the interface controller (show controller , show ip
> interface) and the logging to make sure I don't have speed/duplex or
> flow-control problems.
>
> Second you get "unknown protocol drops" this happens mostly from cdp
> packets. You send cdp from your switch but drop them on your router.
>
> I my case I had to enable flow-control on my 3560 switch and allow pause
> frames from the npe-g1. Hint: Sometimes it is more reliable to turn the
> auto-neg feature off
>
> Regards
>  Erich
>
>>
>> NPE-G1:
>> 
>> GigabitEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up
>>   Hardware is BCM1250 Internal MAC, address is 0006.52f4.d81b (bia
>> 0006.52f4.d81b)
>>   Internet address is x.x.x.x/28
>>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
>>      reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>>   Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
>>   Keepalive set (10 sec)
>>   Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, link type is autonegotiation, media type is SX
>>   output flow-control is XON, input flow-

Re: [c-nsp] Rapid-PVST and RSTP compatibility

2012-05-24 Thread Covalciuc Piotr
Thank you All for your replies!

That I found in INTERNET:
"To allow Cisco switches running rapid PVST+ or PVST+ to form a common
spanning tree
with others switches running RSTP, MSTP, or STP, vlan1 (the native
VLAN) must be
configured as untagged on the Cisco ports connected to the others switches."

So, I'll try this...

Thanks again,
Peter


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Brandon Ewing  wrote:
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 09:42:48AM -0600, Steven Raymond wrote:
>> On May 23, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Covalciuc Piotr wrote:
>>
>> > We have a network built on CISCO switches with Rapid-PVST.
>> > Now, we want to integrate in the network the DELL PowerConnect
>> > switches, which supports RSTP only.
>> >
>> > Does the Rapid-PVST compatible with RSTP?
>>
>> From what I understand, the Ciscos will still run Rapid-PVST, not fall back 
>> to "RSTP".  Rapid-PVST will interwork with the Dells' RSTP, however.  On the 
>> cisco you can say "spanning-tree mode [ pvst | rapid-pvst | mst ]" without a 
>> "plain" RSTP option.
>>
>> PVST & R-PVST has limitations in the total number of vlans you can run, 
>> however, I think it is 128.
>>
>> You may want to look at running MSTP, which should be somewhat less Cisco 
>> proprietary, and the dells will do MSTP as well.  MSTP then overcome the 
>> PVST vlan count limits.
>>
>
> The last time I looked at this, mapping vLANS to an MST instance on a
> Powerconnect created that vLAN on the switch.  Since we were pre-mapping the
> entire 4K vlan range on our Cisco devices, this blew up the first
> Powerconnect we tried it on.
>
> Note:  This was 2+ years ago, on a 53xx-class device.
>
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Chuck Church
Regarding that IPTV issue, there is a Cisco switch option to not flush IGMP
table mappings when a TCN goes out, that accomplishes the same thing as
portfast, but without the (slight) risk of using that:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst4500/12.2/31sga/configu
ration/guide/multi.html#wp1049520

Chuck

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:38 AM
To: adam vitkovsky
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

Hi,

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:38:49PM +0200, adam vitkovsky wrote:
> What do you think about enabling port-fast on trunks between switches 
> that are connected in a star topology (no redundant links) and running 
> MST

I do not run MST anywhere, so I'm not sure how portfast and MST interact.

OTOH, if you connect switches with *RSTP* together, the links will be up and
forwarding in very short time anyway, so portfast won't make much
difference.

> I'm asking because we have problems with TCN and following CAM table 
> flushes when ports flap We suspect that the CAM table flushes have 
> negative effects on IPTV streams There was the idea of enabling 
> port-fast on trunks since the topology is a cascaded star and when a 
> segment goes offline there's no other way to get to it -so no need for 
> the whole instance/domain to suffer from topology change And in case 
> the someone creates an artificial loop MST should take care of it as 
> soon as it hears the first bpdu right

Well, if you are *sure* your topology has no loops, then just turn off
spanning tree.  No TCNs.

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 02:54:03 PM Gert Doering wrote:

> If I'm not mistaken, the other 3 GE ports are directly
> connected to the CPU on the SoC - so "no bus at all".

That's right.

> The difference would be "... if compared to a PA-GE
> sitting on the classic PCI bus".

Agree, but given the overall throughput of the box is just 
under 1Gbps, I suppose it all works out considering not lal 
4x ports were full at any one time :-).

Mark.
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 02:44:42PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote:
> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 02:39:20 PM Gert Doering wrote:
> 
> > Well, I'd interpret that as "it is not connected to the
> > PCI bus, so won't eat bandwidth points from there".  Not
> > as "will do distributed anything".
> 
> Right, that was my interpretation too, but for me, each port 
> performed the same, so it was a non-starter.

If I'm not mistaken, the other 3 GE ports are directly connected
to the CPU on the SoC - so "no bus at all".

The difference would be "... if compared to a PA-GE sitting on the 
classic PCI bus".

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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 02:39:20 PM Gert Doering wrote:

> Well, I'd interpret that as "it is not connected to the
> PCI bus, so won't eat bandwidth points from there".  Not
> as "will do distributed anything".

Right, that was my interpretation too, but for me, each port 
performed the same, so it was a non-starter.

Mark.
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 02:37:47 PM Gert Doering wrote:

> OTOH, if you connect switches with *RSTP* together, the
> links will be up and forwarding in very short time
> anyway, so portfast won't make much difference.

Aye - which is why we run RSTP everywhere we need STP 
anyway.

Mark.
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Matlock, Kenneth L
Ha! So that 1 port can do line rate to. the CPU? :)
 
And I can see getting that linerate out of the box. It's things like QoS and 
Netflow that really have to involve the CPU much more than simple packet 
forwarding.
 
Once you get most of those services established (such as ISIS) there's really 
not much for the CPU to do to maintain the table. 
 
Ken



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On Thursday, May 24, 2012 02:19:39 PM Matlock, Kenneth L
wrote:

> I recently had a similar issue with a 7201 (which is
> effectively a NPE-G2). Keep in mind that a 7200 series
> platform is 100% software-based.

Except for the part where they said the 4th Gig-E port is a
PCI-X connection to the board and can run at line rate
independently.

Never did quite figure that one out :-).

> And NPE-G2 is rated for 1024Mb/sec. This is aggregate
> throughput, meaning you can do 1024mb/sec in one
> direction, or 512mb/sec each direction before
> overrunning the box. This is with no services running,
> static routes, etc. Talked to my SE and found out that
> performance with QoS drops to 512mb/sec aggregate, and
> with Netflow it dropped to 256mb/sec. (aggregate).

We used the NPE-G2 as a core router many, many years ago,
and extratced 950Mbps from it (aggregate) with 0% packet
loss at 91% CPU utilization. v6, v6, MPLS, IS-IS, LDP, RSVP.

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 02:30:59PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote:
> > I recently had a similar issue with a 7201 (which is
> > effectively a NPE-G2). Keep in mind that a 7200 series
> > platform is 100% software-based.
> 
> Except for the part where they said the 4th Gig-E port is a 
> PCI-X connection to the board and can run at line rate 
> independently.
> 
> Never did quite figure that one out :-).

Well, I'd interpret that as "it is not connected to the PCI bus, so
won't eat bandwidth points from there".  Not as "will do distributed
anything".

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:38:49PM +0200, adam vitkovsky wrote:
> What do you think about enabling port-fast on trunks between switches that
> are connected in a star topology (no redundant links) and running MST

I do not run MST anywhere, so I'm not sure how portfast and MST interact.

OTOH, if you connect switches with *RSTP* together, the links will be
up and forwarding in very short time anyway, so portfast won't make
much difference.

> I'm asking because we have problems with TCN and following CAM table flushes
> when ports flap
> We suspect that the CAM table flushes have negative effects on IPTV streams
> There was the idea of enabling port-fast on trunks since the topology is a
> cascaded star and when a segment goes offline there's no other way to get to
> it -so no need for the whole instance/domain to suffer from topology change 
> And in case the someone creates an artificial loop MST should take care of
> it as soon as it hears the first bpdu right

Well, if you are *sure* your topology has no loops, then just turn off
spanning tree.  No TCNs.

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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 02:19:39 PM Matlock, Kenneth L 
wrote:

> I recently had a similar issue with a 7201 (which is
> effectively a NPE-G2). Keep in mind that a 7200 series
> platform is 100% software-based.

Except for the part where they said the 4th Gig-E port is a 
PCI-X connection to the board and can run at line rate 
independently.

Never did quite figure that one out :-).

> And NPE-G2 is rated for 1024Mb/sec. This is aggregate
> throughput, meaning you can do 1024mb/sec in one
> direction, or 512mb/sec each direction before
> overrunning the box. This is with no services running,
> static routes, etc. Talked to my SE and found out that
> performance with QoS drops to 512mb/sec aggregate, and
> with Netflow it dropped to 256mb/sec. (aggregate).

We used the NPE-G2 as a core router many, many years ago, 
and extratced 950Mbps from it (aggregate) with 0% packet 
loss at 91% CPU utilization. v6, v6, MPLS, IS-IS, LDP, RSVP.

Mark.
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Matlock, Kenneth L
Ahh, Netflow
 
I recently had a similar issue with a 7201 (which is effectively a NPE-G2). 
Keep in mind that a 7200 series platform is 100% software-based. 
 
And NPE-G2 is rated for 1024Mb/sec. This is aggregate throughput, meaning you 
can do 1024mb/sec in one direction, or 512mb/sec each direction before 
overrunning the box. This is with no services running, static routes, etc. 
Talked to my SE and found out that performance with QoS drops to 512mb/sec 
aggregate, and with Netflow it dropped to 256mb/sec. (aggregate).
 
Now, officially the NPE-G2 is twice as fast as an NPE-G1, So extrapolating that 
out means best-case you can expect peak performance of 512mb/sec, 256mb/sec 
with QoS, and 128mb/sec with just Netflow enabled. And with the input RX ring 
on those boxes being only 128 deep they are VERY sensitive to CPU 
spikes/latencies (such as when enabling services such as Netflow or QoS). 
Unfortunately that's not configurable and a hardware limitation of the chassis.
 
In our case we wound up replacing the 7201's with ASR1k's to get the throughput 
we needed.
 
Netflow is very handy, but a big performance hit on the 7200 line.
 
Hope this points you in the right direction!
 
Ken



From: gal.9...@googlemail.com [mailto:gal.9...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wed 5/23/2012 11:53 PM
To: Matlock, Kenneth L
Cc: Edward Salonia; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface



I don't run QoS on this box but Netflow. Will disable the flows and
see what happens.


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Matlock, Kenneth L
 wrote:
> The problem with a 1 minute interval is that you can EASILY be bursting well 
> above that for short periods of time. remember that 80-100Mbps is an average 
> over the entire 1 minute.
>
> Are you running QoS or Netflow on this box?
>
> Ken
>
> 
>
> From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net on behalf of gal.9...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Wed 5/23/2012 3:24 PM
> To: Edward Salonia
> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface
>
>
>
>> Are you getting bursts of traffic that might not register on traffic graphs 
>> polling at 5 minute intervals?
>
> No, I don't think so. Burst traffic never exceeds 80-100 Mbps. We're
> polling in a 1 min interval.
>
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Edward Salonia
>  wrote:
>> Drops and overruns... Sounds like you are overloading your port buffer. Are 
>> you getting bursts of traffic that might not register on traffic graphs 
>> polling at 5 minute intervals?
>>
>> - Ed
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
>> [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
>> gal.9...@googlemail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:00 PM
>> To: Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson
>> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface
>>
>>> Is this the only traffic going through this 7200?
>>
>> No. Gi0/1 is connected via 2960G to another router (iBGP). Gi0/2 is
>> connected to an eBGP peer
>> who sends a full table.
>>
>>> How is your scheduler allocate set on the 7200...
>>
>> Default value, not changed.
>>
>>> ...have you tried a new cable and cleaning the optics?
>>
>> New cable: yes
>> Cleaning the optics: no
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson
>>  wrote:
>>> Is this the only traffic going through this 7200?
>>>
>>> How is your scheduler allocate set on the 7200, have you tried a new cable
>>> and cleaning the optics?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Sibbi
>>>
>>> On 23.5.2012 19:33, "gal.9...@googlemail.com" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
Hi,

thanks all for the input.

Increasing the hold-queue (from default to 100) doesn't seem to help at
all:

GigabitEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is BCM1250 Internal MAC, address is 0006.52f4.d81b (bia
0006.52f4.d81b)
  Internet address is x.x.x.x/28
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 2/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, link type is autonegotiation, media type is SX
  output flow-control is XON, input flow-control is XON
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 02:17:11
  Input queue: 0/100/742/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 10536000 bits/sec, 1824 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 6813000 bits/sec, 2121 packets/sec
 11770910 packets input, 2922271410 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 215 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 341 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 341 overrun, 0 ignored
 0 watchdog, 4242 multicast, 0

Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson
On 24.5.2012 09:28, "Saku Ytti"  wrote:

>On (2012-05-24 10:56 +0200), Peter Rathlev wrote:
>
>> connecting to anything that does not create a L2 loop, i.e. a bridge. We
>> use Portfast and BPDU Guard on all links towards routers. That also
>
>This is incredibly dangerous. Leak one BPDU from one customer EVPN
>somewhere, and all customers are down in PE facing that metro.
>PE<->Metro definitely should be BPDUfilter.
>
>On customer ports, BPDUguard is apt, which you can enable per default for
>edge/portfast ports, so you only need to configure porfast.

We're in complete agreement

Kind regards,
Sibbi
>


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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-05-24 10:56 +0200), Peter Rathlev wrote:

> connecting to anything that does not create a L2 loop, i.e. a bridge. We
> use Portfast and BPDU Guard on all links towards routers. That also

This is incredibly dangerous. Leak one BPDU from one customer EVPN
somewhere, and all customers are down in PE facing that metro.
PE<->Metro definitely should be BPDUfilter.

On customer ports, BPDUguard is apt, which you can enable per default for
edge/portfast ports, so you only need to configure porfast.

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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Erich Hohermuth
Hi

After the port-fast discussion back to your original question. The first
thing to look is the interface controller (show controller , show ip
interface) and the logging to make sure I don't have speed/duplex or
flow-control problems.

Second you get "unknown protocol drops" this happens mostly from cdp
packets. You send cdp from your switch but drop them on your router.

I my case I had to enable flow-control on my 3560 switch and allow pause
frames from the npe-g1. Hint: Sometimes it is more reliable to turn the
auto-neg feature off

Regards
 Erich

> 
> NPE-G1:
> 
> GigabitEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up
>   Hardware is BCM1250 Internal MAC, address is 0006.52f4.d81b (bia
> 0006.52f4.d81b)
>   Internet address is x.x.x.x/28
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
>   Keepalive set (10 sec)
>   Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, link type is autonegotiation, media type is SX
>   output flow-control is XON, input flow-control is XON
>   ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
>   Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
>   Input queue: 0/75/1321/1 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
>   5 minute input rate 4264000 bits/sec, 871 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 5859000 bits/sec, 1597 packets/sec
>  27479327 packets input, 343489 bytes, 0 no buffer
>  Received 941 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>  989 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 989 overrun, 0 ignored
>  0 watchdog, 17119 multicast, 0 pause input
>  0 input packets with dribble condition detected
>  43616309 packets output, 2243854018 bytes, 0 underruns
>  5 output errors, 0 collisions, 4 interface resets
>  561 unknown protocol drops
>  0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
>  5 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 13:15 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote:
> It's probably not going to address the overrun issue, but from a best 
> practices stand point, it should not be enabled on interfaces that 
> connected to other connected devices, ie a router or switch.

To recap what others have said: Portfast is IMO always a good idea when
connecting to anything that does not create a L2 loop, i.e. a bridge. We
use Portfast and BPDU Guard on all links towards routers. That also
covers trunks toward a 6500 swouter if it's a "no switchport" with
subinterfaces. Not using Portfast means that many failover situations
take forever to converge.

On the other hand we never use Portfast unless we can also enable BPDU
Guard. Otherwise you're not protected from someone accidentally
connecting the port to a switch.

BPDU Filter is IMO almost always a bad thing. There are some very
special circumstances where it's warranted, but they are few and far
between.

-- 
Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] Lot of input errors on a NPE-G1 interface

2012-05-24 Thread Phil Mayers

On 05/24/2012 06:16 AM, David Farrell wrote:

On 23/05/2012 20:27, Phil Mayers wrote:

If you don't enable portfast, you have to suffer the STP state
transitions, which lead to delays in traffic forwarding after link-up.

I wondered what people's feelings/experiences were with respect to
completely disabling STP where appropriate?

I have 100% control over topology and some PtP dotq trunk links, I
thought of placing 'spanning-tree bpdufilter enable' rather than
'portfast trunk' on these ports. I have no need to to send or receive
STP BPDUs on these ports, even though the underlying technology is
Ethernet. Hosts are a mixture of L3 switches and routers, but
configuration should limit the extent of the broadcast domains in
question to exist only on the PtP link.


We run PVST, and do indeed disable STP completely on VLANs which are 
used for directed routed ptp links i.e. are only on one port, and only 
make one hop.


We don't disable it on the whole port because often the port is carrying 
other vlans which are PVST enabled (e.g. between an HSRP master&slave / 
STP primary&secondary root switch pair).


We do have some links which carry a routed p2p only, but even then we 
just disable STP on the vlan, not the port.


Obviously if you're running MST or classic STP this per-vlan approach 
isn't available, and you can only do per-port.

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