Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
This will happen if you have a port admin up but oper down or if you don't have both power supplies connected. We shutdown unused ports and lights go green. Our biggest frustration is that they fixed PBR in v3.16, but local PBR still doesn't work properly. We've been waiting over a year thus far. Cory Ayers CCIE #16874, RHCE, BCNP Director of Architecture Education Networks of America 618 Grassmere Park Drive, Suite 12 Nashville, TN 37211 -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Minta Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:30 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh Since is ASR920 bashing time ... anyone else noticed the red led ? Apparently red is the new green. -- Best regards, Adrian Minta ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Yepp have had many onsite techies informing me of impending doom since the machine is broken... //Gustav -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] För Adrian Minta Skickat: den 2 februari 2016 19:30 Till: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Ämne: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh Since is ASR920 bashing time ... anyone else noticed the red led ? Apparently red is the new green. -- Best regards, Adrian Minta ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Mine is all green show facility-alarm status System Totals Critical: 0 Major: 0 Minor: 0 -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Minta Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:30 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh Since is ASR920 bashing time ... anyone else noticed the red led ? Apparently red is the new green. -- Best regards, Adrian Minta ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Since is ASR920 bashing time ... anyone else noticed the red led ? Apparently red is the new green. -- Best regards, Adrian Minta ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
> On 2/02/2016, at 17:32, Erik Sundberg wrote: > > Here are some pictures of the ASR920 Console kit A920-CONS-KIT-S > > > The Adapter Plugs in the Top Left USB Console Port and we have it wired up to > a Perle IOLAN SCS48C console server using a rollover cable. > > Here are some pictures of it, since I can only find a brief mention of it in > all the cisco docs. > > http://imgur.com/a/w8clL > For reference, the PSU sticking out and bracket things is not true on all ASR920 models - some have fixed PSUs, and the ones that are not a full 19” wide have poor brackets. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Here are some pictures of the ASR920 Console kit A920-CONS-KIT-S The Adapter Plugs in the Top Left USB Console Port and we have it wired up to a Perle IOLAN SCS48C console server using a rollover cable. Here are some pictures of it, since I can only find a brief mention of it in all the cisco docs. http://imgur.com/a/w8clL -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Phil Mayers Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 5:15 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh On 17/01/16 11:10, Saku Ytti wrote: > On 17 January 2016 at 04:04, Erik Sundberg wrote: > >> Nah... The next model will be console via bluetooth. > > I would hope people include in their RFPs true OOB as requirement. I > think only one in networking market doing that is Cisco in their > products with CMP. So Nexus7k RP1, SUP2T, RSP880? As I'm sure you know, Cisco ditched this in N7k sup-2, because "customer didn't want it". So evidently, no, people aren't putting this in RFPs :o( ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
On 17/01/16 11:10, Saku Ytti wrote: On 17 January 2016 at 04:04, Erik Sundberg wrote: Nah... The next model will be console via bluetooth. I would hope people include in their RFPs true OOB as requirement. I think only one in networking market doing that is Cisco in their products with CMP. So Nexus7k RP1, SUP2T, RSP880? As I'm sure you know, Cisco ditched this in N7k sup-2, because "customer didn't want it". So evidently, no, people aren't putting this in RFPs :o( ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
On 17 January 2016 at 04:04, Erik Sundberg wrote: > Nah... The next model will be console via bluetooth. I would hope people include in their RFPs true OOB as requirement. I think only one in networking market doing that is Cisco in their products with CMP. So Nexus7k RP1, SUP2T, RSP880? Ethernet or RS232 on control-plane really isn't an OOB port at all, as it fate-shares the same hardware and software, IOS dead, RS232 dead. Of course on RS232 you at least can send break signal, to start executing rommon and boot the box from there. But my understanding is that virtually no one uses this feature for some reason, and indeed it does not work in IOS-XR 9k today at all. It seems people are content with Nike and Corolla OOB. -- ++ytti ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Hi, On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 02:04:25AM +, Erik Sundberg wrote: > Nah... The next model will be console via bluetooth. Which would be nice, if it did not require a proprietary client app that only works on Windows 7, and only with a particular bluetooth chip that is out of production. (Besides that, using Airconsole over BT is actually quite nice :-) ) gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Nah... The next model will be console via bluetooth. > On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Gert Doering wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:11:59PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote: >> Gert Doering wrote: >>> - for those with classic serial ports, or modem needs, there is a standard >>> serial console with *standard* layout (read: Cisco RJ45) >> >> i'm half expecting the ASR930 (if/when it ever happens) to come with the >> following: >> >> http://i.imgur.com/iCdq3Qt.jpg > > Nah... since that BU is all fancy on USB-A for everything... my bet is > on USB-A not RJ45. And they will call it "USB C power supply". > > gert > -- > USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! > //www.muc.de/~gert/ > Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de > fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de > ___ > cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
> On 17/01/2016, at 00:03, Erik Sundberg wrote: > > cisco ASR-920-24SZ-M > > Rack mount Brackets -- more like the cisco 2901 rack mount brackets > http://imgur.com/MpXp8li Ahh right, the ASR-920-4SZ-A model (which I have) isn’t as wide, so the brackets take up the extra space. Because they’ve got an extra couple cm to cover, they need the extra thickness so the bracket works in wall mount mode. No replaceable PSUs on these either. You either get naff brackets or PSUs that stick out the front, I guess. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Hi, On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:11:59PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Gert Doering wrote: > > - for those with classic serial ports, or modem needs, there is a standard > >serial console with *standard* layout (read: Cisco RJ45) > > i'm half expecting the ASR930 (if/when it ever happens) to come with the > following: > > http://i.imgur.com/iCdq3Qt.jpg Nah... since that BU is all fancy on USB-A for everything... my bet is on USB-A not RJ45. And they will call it "USB C power supply". gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Gert Doering wrote: > - for those with classic serial ports, or modem needs, there is a standard >serial console with *standard* layout (read: Cisco RJ45) i'm half expecting the ASR930 (if/when it ever happens) to come with the following: http://i.imgur.com/iCdq3Qt.jpg Nick ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
--- Begin Message --- On 16/01/2016 10:43 PM, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 09:07:00AM +, CiscoNSP List wrote: Cheers for the replies guys - I'm really interested in the rational behind moving to USB from traditional RJ45 portsrealestate?boggles the mind. Well, if done properly, it's actually easier to the admins than having to carry around a usb-to-serial adapter all the time (since almost all current machines do not have a built-in serial port anymore). "properly" implies something else, though, like: - the "real" USB console has a mini-b or micro-B plug, so a bog-standard USB cable otherwise used to charge your mobile will do the job (as for driver installation, well, if you can find a USB-to-serial chip that windows supports by default, even better - but otherwise, unavoidable misery. On Linux, it just works with the common chipsets) USB console is a good idea but the execution of this changeover was botched. As of today we have most routers and switches rolling out with USB serial ports and what appears to be USB->Serial chips onboard to do the translation. This required only a standard mini-b to USB cable to work. Big tick there. The hardware teams did a good job on their part of the job and the implementation of hardware is usually good. But where Cisco seriously lost all credibility with this was the software/driver support. As of today: Windows 7 driver - available on CCO and works OK Windows 8 driver - never supported Windows 8.1 driver - never supported Windows 10 driver - seems to be built into Windows 10 Note that the Windows 7 driver did not work on Windows 8. And in practice on every laptop I tried it on the driver got in a messed up loop whereby it created 255 COM ports in Windows before deciding that there were none left. This left a right royal mess in device manager to clean up. At least a part of this bug was being tracked under CSCuh52585 which has never been made customer visible. There was some comment on this in: https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11996231/usb-console-drivers-windows-8 In the end I just went and bought a decent dongle that did have good driver support and haven't had to deal with the problem since. There are still some routers which don't have USB console ports such as the C819G's though. So it's not quite yet ubiquitous. But that's the exception not the norm. Reuben --- End Message --- ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Hi, On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 09:07:00AM +, CiscoNSP List wrote: > Cheers for the replies guys - I'm really interested in the rational behind > moving to USB from traditional RJ45 portsrealestate?boggles the mind. Well, if done properly, it's actually easier to the admins than having to carry around a usb-to-serial adapter all the time (since almost all current machines do not have a built-in serial port anymore). "properly" implies something else, though, like: - the "real" USB console has a mini-b or micro-B plug, so a bog-standard USB cable otherwise used to charge your mobile will do the job (as for driver installation, well, if you can find a USB-to-serial chip that windows supports by default, even better - but otherwise, unavoidable misery. On Linux, it just works with the common chipsets) - for those with classic serial ports, or modem needs, there is a standard serial console with *standard* layout (read: Cisco RJ45) gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Here is the port numbering any port layout that I was talking about. Backwards from a ME Switch, but I guess this is a router... Starts lower left with 0 http://imgur.com/qPLXsrI -Original Message- From: Nathan Ward [mailto:cisco-...@daork.net] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:54 AM To: Erik Sundberg Cc: CiscoNSP List ; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh > On 16/01/2016, at 23:51, Erik Sundberg wrote: > > My rack mount brackets don't look like that... Interesting! Post a pic? -- Nathan Ward CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
cisco ASR-920-24SZ-M Rack mount Brackets -- more like the cisco 2901 rack mount brackets http://imgur.com/MpXp8li This cisco page also show the brackets that I have http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr920/hardware/installation/guide/ASR920_HIG/hw_installation.html Power Supplies http://imgur.com/PIvv8xh Other wish list for the ASR920 - 36x or 48x 1G port model - 24x 10G Port model - I really don't like the licensing model, your almost always stuck buying the bulk license. -Original Message- From: Nathan Ward [mailto:cisco-...@daork.net] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:54 AM To: Erik Sundberg Cc: CiscoNSP List ; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh > On 16/01/2016, at 23:51, Erik Sundberg wrote: > > My rack mount brackets don't look like that... Interesting! Post a pic? -- Nathan Ward CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
> On 16/01/2016, at 23:51, Erik Sundberg wrote: > > My rack mount brackets don't look like that... Interesting! Post a pic? -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Just finished installing a ASR920 tonight... I had the same issue, just order 6 of those console kits This is really annoying... My rack mount brackets don't look like that... Some changes from Cisco Norm for the ASR920 - No RJ45 console port, very disappointing - The power plug for AC is a C15 not a normal C13 - Services Instances are 1-4000 not 4096. We usually keep the service instance id and the stag the same. You couldn't add another 96 service instances. - Interface layout on the switch would have been nice if it was like cisco switch top left is the first port, but on the asr920 it's the bottom right is port G0/0/0. - interface number start with 0 like a router, instead of 1 like the ME3800's - Management Interface vrf name is forced to Mgmt-intf, you can't change it. - It's weird that the power supplies stick out a 1/4" inch -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of CiscoNSP List Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 3:33 AM To: Nathan Ward Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh Cheers Nathan...sane logic appears to have alluded the team responsible for some of these choices From: Nathan Ward Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 8:11 PM To: CiscoNSP List Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh > On 16/01/2016, at 22:03, CiscoNSP List wrote: > > Thanks Nathan - I really question Cisco's thought processwhat was "wrong" > with the traditional style RJ45 console port? Took up too much realestate?? > > We have rack kits for them, but Ive only just unpacked 2, found the fun > console ports, got that working, and upgraded XE on them bothhavent > installed rack kits yet, but thanks for the heads upcan they still be > racked on top of each other, or does the rack kit cause issues? Caused issues for me, yeah. Here's a pic: http://imgur.com/W8Z2Imi Those folded bits are so it can sit flat when in wall mount mode, but they make it taller than 1RU. Pretty stupid. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Cheers Nathan...sane logic appears to have alluded the team responsible for some of these choices From: Nathan Ward Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 8:11 PM To: CiscoNSP List Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh > On 16/01/2016, at 22:03, CiscoNSP List wrote: > > Thanks Nathan - I really question Cisco's thought processwhat was "wrong" > with the traditional style RJ45 console port? Took up too much realestate?? > > We have rack kits for them, but Ive only just unpacked 2, found the fun > console ports, got that working, and upgraded XE on them bothhavent > installed rack kits yet, but thanks for the heads upcan they still be > racked on top of each other, or does the rack kit cause issues? Caused issues for me, yeah. Here’s a pic: http://imgur.com/W8Z2Imi Those folded bits are so it can sit flat when in wall mount mode, but they make it taller than 1RU. Pretty stupid. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
> On 16/01/2016, at 22:03, CiscoNSP List wrote: > > Thanks Nathan - I really question Cisco's thought processwhat was "wrong" > with the traditional style RJ45 console port? Took up too much realestate?? > > We have rack kits for them, but Ive only just unpacked 2, found the fun > console ports, got that working, and upgraded XE on them bothhavent > installed rack kits yet, but thanks for the heads upcan they still be > racked on top of each other, or does the rack kit cause issues? Caused issues for me, yeah. Here’s a pic: http://imgur.com/W8Z2Imi Those folded bits are so it can sit flat when in wall mount mode, but they make it taller than 1RU. Pretty stupid. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
> On 16/01/2016, at 22:07, CiscoNSP List wrote: > > > Cheers for the replies guys - I'm really interested in the rational behind > moving to USB from traditional RJ45 portsrealestate?boggles the mind. Yeah I presume so. An RJ45 with two USB A holes underneath is a pretty common part as well. I guess it was partially a price thing - probably similar to why serial ended up on RJ45 in the first place? I haven’t been around long enough to know :-) -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Cheers for the replies guys - I'm really interested in the rational behind moving to USB from traditional RJ45 portsrealestate?boggles the mind. From: Nathan Ward Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 6:57 PM To: Gert Doering Cc: CiscoNSP List; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh On 16/01/2016, at 20:54, Gert Doering mailto:g...@greenie.muc.de>> wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 08:50:49PM +1300, Nathan Ward wrote: Hi, there is both a USB signalled console port, and an RS232 console. The RS232 console uses a USB style connector, which is very, very poor. Is that the "EIA console" port? On an USB A-type connector? Yes. Check out "Figure 1-2 Front Panel of Cisco ASR-920-12CZ-D Router" on this page: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr920/hardware/installation/guide/ASR920_HIG/overview.html "Console port (TIA/EIA-232F)" is RS232 on a USB connector. "Auxiliary Console port" is also RS232 on a USB connector. The only USB signalled ports are down the other end of the router. Cisco sell a cable that gives you an RJ45 RS232, it???s just wires, no active components in there. >From the description I assumed that this would be some sort of standard USB RS232 cable, but what you write scares me deeply... Yeah, it's naff. Really, really, naff. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Thanks Nathan - I really question Cisco's thought processwhat was "wrong" with the traditional style RJ45 console port? Took up too much realestate?? We have rack kits for them, but Ive only just unpacked 2, found the fun console ports, got that working, and upgraded XE on them bothhavent installed rack kits yet, but thanks for the heads upcan they still be racked on top of each other, or does the rack kit cause issues? Im going to order in a few of these A920-CONS-KIT-S Serial Console Kit, USB-to-RJ45 cable Hopefully they will do what I needIm assuming they will be very inexpensive lol Cheers. From: Nathan Ward Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 6:50 PM To: CiscoNSP List Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" portugh > On 16/01/2016, at 20:46, CiscoNSP List wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I see the ASR920 doesnt have the "traditional" console port, but uses > USBthen you have to install special driver on your Lappy/whatever that > turns the USB into a "console" port (So you can access it via putty etc.) > > > > While painful(But works), my other issue is with how to solve remote > DC's/OOBi.e. we currently use Opengears and still a couple of old 2500's > with the RJ45 ports for the console connections..question is, has anyone > successfully used a USB->console/RJ45 connector on these devices? (So I would > still be USB cable from ASR920 -> converter(USB->RJ45?), then rollover cable > from adapter to Opengear console ports? > > > > Begs the other question...why have Cisco decided to cease using the > traditional console ports? purely to frustrate users of there equipment? lol Hi, there is both a USB signalled console port, and an RS232 console. The RS232 console uses a USB style connector, which is very, very poor. Cisco sell a cable that gives you an RJ45 RS232, it’s just wires, no active components in there. I’m not sure I’ve got one handy, but when I do, I can reverse engineer the cable for you so you can get the pinout if you like - but I don’t imagine it’d be hard to figure out if you’ve got a multimeter, USB connectors only have 4 pins. Also, have you got ASR920 rack mount ears? Ever notice that they’re taller than 1RU because of the folded bits? It’s a pretty bad product from a physical design POV. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
> On 16/01/2016, at 20:54, Gert Doering wrote: > > Hi, > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 08:50:49PM +1300, Nathan Ward wrote: >> Hi, there is both a USB signalled console port, and an RS232 console. >> The RS232 console uses a USB style connector, which is very, very poor. > > Is that the "EIA console" port? On an USB A-type connector? Yes. Check out "Figure 1-2 Front Panel of Cisco ASR-920-12CZ-D Router” on this page: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr920/hardware/installation/guide/ASR920_HIG/overview.html "Console port (TIA/EIA-232F)” is RS232 on a USB connector. "Auxiliary Console port” is also RS232 on a USB connector. The only USB signalled ports are down the other end of the router. >> Cisco sell a cable that gives you an RJ45 RS232, it???s just wires, no >> active components in there. > > From the description I assumed that this would be some sort of standard > USB RS232 cable, but what you write scares me deeply… Yeah, it’s naff. Really, really, naff. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Hi, On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 08:50:49PM +1300, Nathan Ward wrote: > Hi, there is both a USB signalled console port, and an RS232 console. > The RS232 console uses a USB style connector, which is very, very poor. Is that the "EIA console" port? On an USB A-type connector? > Cisco sell a cable that gives you an RJ45 RS232, it???s just wires, no active > components in there. From the description I assumed that this would be some sort of standard USB RS232 cable, but what you write scares me deeply... gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
> On 16/01/2016, at 20:46, CiscoNSP List wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I see the ASR920 doesnt have the "traditional" console port, but uses > USBthen you have to install special driver on your Lappy/whatever that > turns the USB into a "console" port (So you can access it via putty etc.) > > > > While painful(But works), my other issue is with how to solve remote > DC's/OOBi.e. we currently use Opengears and still a couple of old 2500's > with the RJ45 ports for the console connections..question is, has anyone > successfully used a USB->console/RJ45 connector on these devices? (So I would > still be USB cable from ASR920 -> converter(USB->RJ45?), then rollover cable > from adapter to Opengear console ports? > > > > Begs the other question...why have Cisco decided to cease using the > traditional console ports? purely to frustrate users of there equipment? lol Hi, there is both a USB signalled console port, and an RS232 console. The RS232 console uses a USB style connector, which is very, very poor. Cisco sell a cable that gives you an RJ45 RS232, it’s just wires, no active components in there. I’m not sure I’ve got one handy, but when I do, I can reverse engineer the cable for you so you can get the pinout if you like - but I don’t imagine it’d be hard to figure out if you’ve got a multimeter, USB connectors only have 4 pins. Also, have you got ASR920 rack mount ears? Ever notice that they’re taller than 1RU because of the folded bits? It’s a pretty bad product from a physical design POV. -- Nathan Ward ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] ASR920 "console" port....ugh
Hi everyone, I see the ASR920 doesnt have the "traditional" console port, but uses USBthen you have to install special driver on your Lappy/whatever that turns the USB into a "console" port (So you can access it via putty etc.) While painful(But works), my other issue is with how to solve remote DC's/OOBi.e. we currently use Opengears and still a couple of old 2500's with the RJ45 ports for the console connections..question is, has anyone successfully used a USB->console/RJ45 connector on these devices? (So I would still be USB cable from ASR920 -> converter(USB->RJ45?), then rollover cable from adapter to Opengear console ports? Begs the other question...why have Cisco decided to cease using the traditional console ports? purely to frustrate users of there equipment? lol Cheers. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/