[cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

[James Buchanan]

Hello,

So, Cisco changed their mind for now:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html

Thanks,

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Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Yeah, there was some talk about this in the forums. Someone from Cisco said, 
“watch the page for some changes we think you’ll like”.

Wish they would update the “updated” date.

Lelio


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Hello,

So, Cisco changed their mind for now:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html

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[cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

[Matthew Loraditch]

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744285.html
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744286.html

Everything CUCM/UCXN is moving to a new Flex 3.0 License model.

It's got better pricing than before with significant multi year discounts for 
36 month or greater commitments. For on-prem folks SRST and CER licenses are 
included with all license levels and there are levels now with cheaper options 
for what would have been UCL Enhanced, and UCL Essential/Basic users.

Key Dates:

Yesterday- SWSS Reinstatements ended
1/23/21 - Non BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for Sale, all add ons must 
be flex, also last day to renew existing SWSS as multi year
7/24/21 - BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for sale
1/29/22- Last Day to renew any SWSS Contract
1/27/24- Last Day of Support via SWSS (you would have had to do a Multi Year 
Renewal before 1/23/21)


Partner Link: https://salesconnect.cisco.com/#/program/PAGE-2888

Customer Link: 
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-744220.html




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Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

[Anthony Holloway]

That's great info, thank you for sharing.

Does this mean that "traditional" tac support is also changing?  Because,
doesn't Flex come with tired TAC support?  Any info you can share there?
Thanks!

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:48 AM Matthew Loraditch <
mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744285.html
>
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744286.html
>
>
>
> Everything CUCM/UCXN is moving to a new Flex 3.0 License model.
>
>
>
> It’s got better pricing than before with significant multi year discounts
> for 36 month or greater commitments. For on-prem folks SRST and CER
> licenses are included with all license levels and there are levels now with
> cheaper options for what would have been UCL Enhanced, and UCL
> Essential/Basic users.
>
>
>
> Key Dates:
>
>
>
> Yesterday- SWSS Reinstatements ended
>
> 1/23/21 – Non BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for Sale, all add ons
> must be flex, also last day to renew existing SWSS as multi year
>
> 7/24/21 – BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for sale
>
> 1/29/22- Last Day to renew any SWSS Contract
>
> 1/27/24- Last Day of Support via SWSS (you would have had to do a Multi
> Year Renewal before 1/23/21)
>
>
>
>
>
> Partner Link: https://salesconnect.cisco.com/#/program/PAGE-2888
>
>
>
> Customer Link:
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-744220.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthew Loraditch​
> Sr. Network Engineer
> p: *443.541.1518* <443.541.1518>
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Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

[Matthew Loraditch]

Flex has and will include the same TAC access you’ve had for software with SWSS 
(24x7) for no additional cost. There are enhanced levels that cost more and 
come with additional features. I don’t honestly know the details on those, they 
are designed for large/hi touch accounts, I think dedicated support managers 
and account reviews or similar.


Matthew Loraditch
Sr. Network Engineer
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From: Anthony Holloway 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:23 AM
To: Matthew Loraditch 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and 
related SWSS

[EXTERNAL]

That's great info, thank you for sharing.

Does this mean that "traditional" tac support is also changing?  Because, 
doesn't Flex come with tired TAC support?  Any info you can share there? Thanks!

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:48 AM Matthew Loraditch 
mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>> 
wrote:
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744285.html
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744286.html

Everything CUCM/UCXN is moving to a new Flex 3.0 License model.

It’s got better pricing than before with significant multi year discounts for 
36 month or greater commitments. For on-prem folks SRST and CER licenses are 
included with all license levels and there are levels now with cheaper options 
for what would have been UCL Enhanced, and UCL Essential/Basic users.

Key Dates:

Yesterday- SWSS Reinstatements ended
1/23/21 – Non BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for Sale, all add ons must 
be flex, also last day to renew existing SWSS as multi year
7/24/21 – BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for sale
1/29/22- Last Day to renew any SWSS Contract
1/27/24- Last Day of Support via SWSS (you would have had to do a Multi Year 
Renewal before 1/23/21)


Partner Link: https://salesconnect.cisco.com/#/program/PAGE-2888

Customer Link: 
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-744220.html




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Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

[Charles Goldsmith]

"come with *tired* TAC support?"

I bet they are!


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:23 AM Anthony Holloway <
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's great info, thank you for sharing.
>
> Does this mean that "traditional" tac support is also changing?  Because,
> doesn't Flex come with tired TAC support?  Any info you can share there?
> Thanks!
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:48 AM Matthew Loraditch <
> mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744285.html
>>
>>
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744286.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Everything CUCM/UCXN is moving to a new Flex 3.0 License model.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s got better pricing than before with significant multi year discounts
>> for 36 month or greater commitments. For on-prem folks SRST and CER
>> licenses are included with all license levels and there are levels now with
>> cheaper options for what would have been UCL Enhanced, and UCL
>> Essential/Basic users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Key Dates:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday- SWSS Reinstatements ended
>>
>> 1/23/21 – Non BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for Sale, all add
>> ons must be flex, also last day to renew existing SWSS as multi year
>>
>> 7/24/21 – BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for sale
>>
>> 1/29/22- Last Day to renew any SWSS Contract
>>
>> 1/27/24- Last Day of Support via SWSS (you would have had to do a Multi
>> Year Renewal before 1/23/21)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Partner Link: https://salesconnect.cisco.com/#/program/PAGE-2888
>>
>>
>>
>> Customer Link:
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-744220.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthew Loraditch
>> Sr. Network Engineer
>> p: *443.541.1518* <443.541.1518>
>> w: *www.heliontechnologies.com*   |
>> e: *mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com*
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Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

[Anthony Holloway]

This statement from the link is interesting to me:

"...opportunity to move to newer phone models and clients at a pace that is
reasonable."


   - 8800 series was released 8 years ago
   - 7940's have been end of support since 5 years ago


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:20 AM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> Yeah, there was some talk about this in the forums. Someone from Cisco
> said, “watch the page for some changes we think you’ll like”.
>
>
>
> Wish they would update the “updated” date.
>
>
>
> Lelio
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *James
> Buchanan
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:49 AM
> *To:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14
>
>
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>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> So, Cisco changed their mind for now:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
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Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

[Anthony Holloway]

Oops!  "tierd TAC support" was intended.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:30 AM Charles Goldsmith  wrote:

> "come with *tired* TAC support?"
>
> I bet they are!
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:23 AM Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's great info, thank you for sharing.
>>
>> Does this mean that "traditional" tac support is also changing?  Because,
>> doesn't Flex come with tired TAC support?  Any info you can share there?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:48 AM Matthew Loraditch <
>> mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744285.html
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744286.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Everything CUCM/UCXN is moving to a new Flex 3.0 License model.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s got better pricing than before with significant multi year
>>> discounts for 36 month or greater commitments. For on-prem folks SRST and
>>> CER licenses are included with all license levels and there are levels now
>>> with cheaper options for what would have been UCL Enhanced, and UCL
>>> Essential/Basic users.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Key Dates:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yesterday- SWSS Reinstatements ended
>>>
>>> 1/23/21 – Non BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for Sale, all add
>>> ons must be flex, also last day to renew existing SWSS as multi year
>>>
>>> 7/24/21 – BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for sale
>>>
>>> 1/29/22- Last Day to renew any SWSS Contract
>>>
>>> 1/27/24- Last Day of Support via SWSS (you would have had to do a Multi
>>> Year Renewal before 1/23/21)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Partner Link: https://salesconnect.cisco.com/#/program/PAGE-2888
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Customer Link:
>>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-744220.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew Loraditch
>>> Sr. Network Engineer
>>> p: *443.541.1518* <443.541.1518>
>>> w: *www.heliontechnologies.com*   |
>>> e: *mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com*
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Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

[James Buchanan]

Maybe Cisco needs to buy up all those 7940s from eBay to get them off the
market for good :-).

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:30 PM Anthony Holloway <
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This statement from the link is interesting to me:
>
> "...opportunity to move to newer phone models and clients at a pace that
> is reasonable."
>
>
>- 8800 series was released 8 years ago
>- 7940's have been end of support since 5 years ago
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:20 AM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, there was some talk about this in the forums. Someone from Cisco
>> said, “watch the page for some changes we think you’ll like”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wish they would update the “updated” date.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lelio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *James
>> Buchanan
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:49 AM
>> *To:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
>> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> So, Cisco changed their mind for now:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

[James Andrewartha]

We’re still running 10 year old 79x5s (despite their cold boot RAM failure 
issue) and won’t be replacing them until next year at the earliest, I think 
most organisations would want to sweat at least 10 years out of their handsets. 
I mean what features does an 8800 have over an old 7940 if all you want is 
dialtone? Yes security etc, but why pay for new handsets when you get nothing 
for it? Plus I bet COVID is making business reconsider upgrading handsets in 
empty offices.

--
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Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Holloway
Sent: Thursday, 24 September 2020 10:30 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

This statement from the link is interesting to me:

"...opportunity to move to newer phone models and clients at a pace that is 
reasonable."


  *   8800 series was released 8 years ago
  *   7940's have been end of support since 5 years ago

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:20 AM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Yeah, there was some talk about this in the forums. Someone from Cisco said, 
“watch the page for some changes we think you’ll like”.

Wish they would update the “updated” date.

Lelio


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of James Buchanan
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:49 AM
To: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

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Hello,

So, Cisco changed their mind for now:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html

Thanks,

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Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

[James Buchanan]

Hello,

I know the security argument is valid in some respects. But, if I have an
insecure IoT device on the network, like a temperature control system, I
don't have the option of replacing it. So, I ring fence it. I isolate it so
that it can't be exploited, etc. Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't
that what we can do to workaround the security issues?

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:36 PM James Andrewartha <
jandrewar...@ccgs.wa.edu.au> wrote:

> We’re still running 10 year old 79x5s (despite their cold boot RAM failure
> issue) and won’t be replacing them until next year at the earliest, I think
> most organisations would want to sweat at least 10 years out of their
> handsets. I mean what features does an 8800 have over an old 7940 if all
> you want is dialtone? Yes security etc, but why pay for new handsets when
> you get nothing for it? Plus I bet COVID is making business reconsider
> upgrading handsets in empty offices.
>
>
>
> --
>
> James Andrewartha
>
> Network & Projects Engineer
>
> Christ Church Grammar School
>
> Claremont, Western Australia
>
> Ph. (08) 9442 1757
>
> Mob. 0424 160 877
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Anthony
> Holloway
> *Sent:* Thursday, 24 September 2020 10:30 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi 
> *Cc:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14
>
>
>
> This statement from the link is interesting to me:
>
>
>
> "...opportunity to move to newer phone models and clients at a pace that
> is reasonable."
>
>
>
>- 8800 series was released 8 years ago
>- 7940's have been end of support since 5 years ago
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:20 AM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
>
> Yeah, there was some talk about this in the forums. Someone from Cisco
> said, “watch the page for some changes we think you’ll like”.
>
>
>
> Wish they would update the “updated” date.
>
>
>
> Lelio
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *James
> Buchanan
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:49 AM
> *To:* voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14
>
>
>
> *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the University of
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>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> So, Cisco changed their mind for now:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James
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[cisco-voip] Keeping my phone clean in the age of Covid-19 and other nasty germs

[James Buchanan]

Hello,

What are you guys doing to ensure phones are kept clean, especially in
shared spaces? I don't know much about the potential health issues of
sharing a handset--maybe it's a non-issue. Is there an argument here for
ripping out handsets and going soft client just to make sure? Honest
question and I welcome any thoughts.

Thanks,

James
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Re: [cisco-voip] Keeping my phone clean in the age of Covid-19 and other nasty germs

[Charles Goldsmith]

Thankfully I don't have to deal with that, but if it were me, I'd ask my
management/HR to get involved, get the CDC suggested methods (assuming you
are in the US), and let them draft a policy and implement it.

This is all primarily to CYA, because you don't want to be blamed for
anything that arises.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:41 AM James Buchanan 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What are you guys doing to ensure phones are kept clean, especially in
> shared spaces? I don't know much about the potential health issues of
> sharing a handset--maybe it's a non-issue. Is there an argument here for
> ripping out handsets and going soft client just to make sure? Honest
> question and I welcome any thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
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Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

I’m guessing, based on conversations that I had with a few Cisco folk, that, 
yes, TAC support will likely change along with this. Expect Basic level support 
for free.

And, to my surprise, expect that Basic level support to match Webex basic level 
support.

It will be painful is my prediction.



From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Anthony 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and 
related SWSS

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That's great info, thank you for sharing.

Does this mean that "traditional" tac support is also changing?  Because, 
doesn't Flex come with tired TAC support?  Any info you can share there? Thanks!

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:48 AM Matthew Loraditch 
mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>> 
wrote:
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744285.html
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744286.html

Everything CUCM/UCXN is moving to a new Flex 3.0 License model.

It’s got better pricing than before with significant multi year discounts for 
36 month or greater commitments. For on-prem folks SRST and CER licenses are 
included with all license levels and there are levels now with cheaper options 
for what would have been UCL Enhanced, and UCL Essential/Basic users.

Key Dates:

Yesterday- SWSS Reinstatements ended
1/23/21 – Non BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for Sale, all add ons must 
be flex, also last day to renew existing SWSS as multi year
7/24/21 – BE6K licenses/SWSS no longer available for sale
1/29/22- Last Day to renew any SWSS Contract
1/27/24- Last Day of Support via SWSS (you would have had to do a Multi Year 
Renewal before 1/23/21)


Partner Link: https://salesconnect.cisco.com/#/program/PAGE-2888

Customer Link: 
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-744220.html




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Re: [cisco-voip] Keeping my phone clean in the age of Covid-19 and other nasty germs

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a few Cisco published cleaning documents. They were 
posted in forums. Couldn’t really find a live link.

People were really worried about the touch tens for example. Cisco wanted them 
to use specific cleaning materials.


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Buchanan
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:40 AM
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Subject: [cisco-voip] Keeping my phone clean in the age of Covid-19 and other 
nasty germs

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Hello,

What are you guys doing to ensure phones are kept clean, especially in shared 
spaces? I don't know much about the potential health issues of sharing a 
handset--maybe it's a non-issue. Is there an argument here for ripping out 
handsets and going soft client just to make sure? Honest question and I welcome 
any thoughts.

Thanks,

James
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Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

[Pawlowski, Adam]

Sure, you could fence them off if creating an isolated or appropriately gapped 
network is in your wheelhouse. Since the devices are usually used with pass 
through, they’re potentially exposed to some issues regardless of how well you 
try and secure the address space of the phones.

In my case I ran into issues with 79x1 series devices exposed to either some 
type of traffic or too high of a volume, which caused the phones to become 
unusable. It is not fixed and never will be as there is no longer support. If 
that were to happen to someone else, it becomes I think a problem to try and 
patch around phones where cabling isn’t present, replace devices rapidly, etc.

But, yes absolutely you could bolt a 7940 to the wall on a private network by 
itself with the PC Port off, only allowed to speak to the UCM and maybe relayed 
to gateways or other devices, and then it could be okay.

Best,

Adam

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of James 
Buchanan
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:39 AM
To: James Andrewartha 
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

Hello,

I know the security argument is valid in some respects. But, if I have an 
insecure IoT device on the network, like a temperature control system, I don't 
have the option of replacing it. So, I ring fence it. I isolate it so that it 
can't be exploited, etc. Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't that what we 
can do to workaround the security issues?

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:36 PM James Andrewartha 
mailto:jandrewar...@ccgs.wa.edu.au>> wrote:
We’re still running 10 year old 79x5s (despite their cold boot RAM failure 
issue) and won’t be replacing them until next year at the earliest, I think 
most organisations would want to sweat at least 10 years out of their handsets. 
I mean what features does an 8800 have over an old 7940 if all you want is 
dialtone? Yes security etc, but why pay for new handsets when you get nothing 
for it? Plus I bet COVID is making business reconsider upgrading handsets in 
empty offices.

--
James Andrewartha
Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Anthony Holloway
Sent: Thursday, 24 September 2020 10:30 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

This statement from the link is interesting to me:

"...opportunity to move to newer phone models and clients at a pace that is 
reasonable."


  *   8800 series was released 8 years ago
  *   7940's have been end of support since 5 years ago

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:20 AM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Yeah, there was some talk about this in the forums. Someone from Cisco said, 
“watch the page for some changes we think you’ll like”.

Wish they would update the “updated” date.

Lelio


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Hello,

So, Cisco changed their mind for now:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html

Thanks,

James
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