[cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Ashwani R
Team,

I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their
respective CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge
both CUCM and UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They
are running CUCM version *7.1.3.1-11* and UCCX cluster running *7.0(2)
Build254*.  What is the best way to do this? Can they keep both historical
data from UCCX and move them to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just
want to see if anyone has done it before.  We have already built new 9.x
CUCM and UCCX cluster with new set of IP addresses with blank
configurations. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ashwani
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Mike King
Ashwani,

At this point, I question why you don't upgrade to 10.5.   Coming off 7.1,
you're in for a major jump/upgrade path, you might as well go the last two
versions and be current.

Also, you didn't make clear if you're going to 9.0, or 9.1.  They will have
different EOS dates.

Cisco has not made public any EOS/EOL statements about CUCM9.x, but based
off this chart:
http://www.voicecerts.com/2011/05/cisco-unified-communications-manager.html
(Not on the chart, 8.6, which was EOS January 2014)

I wouldn't be surprised to see an EOL statement in the next calendar year
for 9.0.   I personally think we'll see it in January.  If you have a Cisco
Account Manager, and have signed an NDA, you might be able to get the EOS
date from him.

I wouldn't guess what 9.1 EOS date would be.

As for Merging two clusters together, I don't think with that big a jump,
you'll be able to keep the historical data.  I believe UCCX 7 still ran on
Windows, and UCCX 9 is on Linux, I don't think this data is carried over.
Perhaps someone with more experience with these types of upgrades will
comment.

I recommend practicing your upgrade several times. With this big of a jump
practicing several times (Looking at you Leilo and your Saga) will expose
upgrade issues in the lab, not in production.

Mike

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Ashwani R ashw...@ranpise.com wrote:

 Team,

 I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their
 respective CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge
 both CUCM and UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They
 are running CUCM version *7.1.3.1-11* and UCCX cluster running *7.0(2)
 Build254*.  What is the best way to do this? Can they keep both
 historical data from UCCX and move them to 9.x ?  I know this is not
 possible but just want to see if anyone has done it before.  We have
 already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new set of IP addresses
 with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Ashwani

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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Kevin Przybylowski
Ashwani,

Since you’re taking 2 separate CCX servers, and migrating to 1 there is no way 
to bring over Historical data from the older version as part of the upgrade.  
As this is Historical data, I would advise the supervisors to generate all the 
reports they’ll need the week before the cutover and then do a clean cut on the 
new version.

How big is the call center as far as applications/skills/scripts/etc?  If small 
enough, you will save yourself lots of heartache and time if you treat the new 
cluster as new and manually migrate the 2 call centers over.  This task is 
fairly easy if old and new are both online.

I would also agree with Mike and suggest you bring it up to 10.5, just note 
that HRC is no longer used and the Reporting users will have to be trained on 
CUIC if you do that.

Kevin P.



From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike 
King
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:40 AM
To: Cisco VoIPoE List
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

Ashwani,

At this point, I question why you don't upgrade to 10.5.   Coming off 7.1, 
you're in for a major jump/upgrade path, you might as well go the last two 
versions and be current.

Also, you didn't make clear if you're going to 9.0, or 9.1.  They will have 
different EOS dates.

Cisco has not made public any EOS/EOL statements about CUCM9.x, but based off 
this chart:
http://www.voicecerts.com/2011/05/cisco-unified-communications-manager.html
(Not on the chart, 8.6, which was EOS January 2014)

I wouldn't be surprised to see an EOL statement in the next calendar year for 
9.0.   I personally think we'll see it in January.  If you have a Cisco Account 
Manager, and have signed an NDA, you might be able to get the EOS date from him.

I wouldn't guess what 9.1 EOS date would be.

As for Merging two clusters together, I don't think with that big a jump, 
you'll be able to keep the historical data.  I believe UCCX 7 still ran on 
Windows, and UCCX 9 is on Linux, I don't think this data is carried over.  
Perhaps someone with more experience with these types of upgrades will comment.

I recommend practicing your upgrade several times. With this big of a jump 
practicing several times (Looking at you Leilo and your Saga) will expose 
upgrade issues in the lab, not in production.

Mike

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Ashwani R 
ashw...@ranpise.commailto:ashw...@ranpise.com wrote:
Team,
I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their respective 
CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge both CUCM and 
UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They are running CUCM 
version 7.1.3.1-11 and UCCX cluster running 7.0(2) Build254.  What is the 
best way to do this? Can they keep both historical data from UCCX and move them 
to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just want to see if anyone has done 
it before.  We have already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new set of 
IP addresses with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ashwani

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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Josh Warcop
First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is Communications 
Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1.

You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD.

If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.

In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one new 
cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX integration, and 
move site by site or by application.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Ashwani Rmailto:ashw...@ranpise.com
Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

Team,

I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their
respective CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge
both CUCM and UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They
are running CUCM version *7.1.3.1-11* and UCCX cluster running *7.0(2)
Build254*.  What is the best way to do this? Can they keep both historical
data from UCCX and move them to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just
want to see if anyone has done it before.  We have already built new 9.x
CUCM and UCCX cluster with new set of IP addresses with blank
configurations. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ashwani
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Kevin Przybylowski
Wow, 10.6 snuck in there… looks like they got e-mail support for finesse in 
there which is a great help.

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Josh 
Warcop
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:18 PM
To: Ashwani R; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is Communications 
Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1.

You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD.

If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.

In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one new 
cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX integration, and 
move site by site or by application.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Ashwani Rmailto:ashw...@ranpise.com
Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x
Team,
I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their respective 
CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge both CUCM and 
UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They are running CUCM 
version 7.1.3.1-11 and UCCX cluster running 7.0(2) Build254.  What is the 
best way to do this? Can they keep both historical data from UCCX and move them 
to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just want to see if anyone has done 
it before.  We have already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new set of 
IP addresses with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Mike
UCCX 10.6 supports CAD and Finesse as ️Co-resident and rumor has it that is the 
only version that will support this configuration so plan accordingly.  

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Josh Warcop j...@warcop.com wrote:
 
 First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is 
 Communications Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1. 
 
 You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD. 
 
 If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
 have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.
 
 In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one 
 new cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX 
 integration, and move site by site or by application. 
 
 Sent from my Windows Phone
 From: Ashwani R
 Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
 To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x
 
 Team,
 
 I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their respective 
 CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge both CUCM and 
 UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They are running CUCM 
 version 7.1.3.1-11 and UCCX cluster running 7.0(2) Build254.  What is the 
 best way to do this? Can they keep both historical data from UCCX and move 
 them to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just want to see if anyone has 
 done it before.  We have already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new 
 set of IP addresses with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ashwani
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Josh Warcop
The future is Finesse only. Might as well start planning now.

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From: Mikemailto:mik...@msn.com
Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 6:23 PM
To: Josh Warcopmailto:j...@warcop.com
Cc: Ashwani Rmailto:ashw...@ranpise.com; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

UCCX 10.6 supports CAD and Finesse as ️Co-resident and rumor has it that is the 
only version that will support this configuration so plan accordingly.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Josh Warcop j...@warcop.com wrote:

 First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is 
 Communications Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1.

 You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD.

 If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
 have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.

 In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one 
 new cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX 
 integration, and move site by site or by application.

 Sent from my Windows Phone
 From: Ashwani R
 Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
 To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

 Team,

 I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their respective 
 CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge both CUCM and 
 UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They are running CUCM 
 version 7.1.3.1-11 and UCCX cluster running 7.0(2) Build254.  What is the 
 best way to do this? Can they keep both historical data from UCCX and move 
 them to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just want to see if anyone has 
 done it before.  We have already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new 
 set of IP addresses with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Ashwani
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Mike
CAD and Finesse can't be active at the same time unless you are on version 10.6

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Kevin Przybylowski kev...@advancedtsg.com 
 wrote:
 
 Do you mean the last version?  They’ve been together the last few revisions.
  
  
 From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: Josh Warcop
 Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate 
 to 9.x
  
 UCCX 10.6 supports CAD and Finesse as ️Co-resident and rumor has it that is 
 the only version that will support this configuration so plan accordingly.  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Josh Warcop j...@warcop.com wrote:
 
 First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is 
 Communications Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1. 
 
 You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD. 
 
 If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
 have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.
 
 In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one 
 new cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX 
 integration, and move site by site or by application. 
 
 Sent from my Windows Phone
 From: Ashwani R
 Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
 To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x
 
 Team,
 
 I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their respective 
 CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge both CUCM and 
 UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They are running CUCM 
 version 7.1.3.1-11 and UCCX cluster running 7.0(2) Build254.  What is the 
 best way to do this? Can they keep both historical data from UCCX and move 
 them to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just want to see if anyone has 
 done it before.  We have already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new 
 set of IP addresses with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ashwani
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Matthew Loraditch
They have both existed since 10 but you were stuck with one or the other, with 
10.6 you will be allowed to have both in production, there is a white paper 
coming with details.

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From: cisco-voip [cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] on behalf of Kevin 
Przybylowski [kev...@advancedtsg.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:02 PM
To: Mike; Josh Warcop
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

Do you mean the last version?  They’ve been together the last few revisions.


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:22 PM
To: Josh Warcop
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

UCCX 10.6 supports CAD and Finesse as ️Co-resident and rumor has it that is the 
only version that will support this configuration so plan accordingly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Josh Warcop 
j...@warcop.commailto:j...@warcop.com wrote:
First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is Communications 
Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1.

You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD.

If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.

In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one new 
cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX integration, and 
move site by site or by application.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Ashwani Rmailto:ashw...@ranpise.com
Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x
Team,
I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their respective 
CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge both CUCM and 
UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They are running CUCM 
version 7.1.3.1-11 and UCCX cluster running 7.0(2) Build254.  What is the 
best way to do this? Can they keep both historical data from UCCX and move them 
to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just want to see if anyone has done 
it before.  We have already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new set of 
IP addresses with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ashwani
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Kevin Przybylowski
That’s great, will help get people off CAD and into Finesse if you can easily 
show them in their own environment.

You’d think they would put this in the release notes as it’s a pretty big deal 
in the CCX world.

From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:14 PM
To: Charles Goldsmith
Cc: Kevin Przybylowski; Mike; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

10.6 is the first last and only version that allows both to be run on the same 
server.

Sent from my iPhone
+1 801 718 2308

On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Charles Goldsmith 
wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
Kevin, not supported to run them both at the same time, unless 10.6 has indeed 
changed that, I haven't perused the docs yet.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Kevin Przybylowski 
kev...@advancedtsg.commailto:kev...@advancedtsg.com wrote:
Do you mean the last version?  They’ve been together the last few revisions.


From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:22 PM
To: Josh Warcop
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

UCCX 10.6 supports CAD and Finesse as ️Co-resident and rumor has it that is the 
only version that will support this configuration so plan accordingly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Josh Warcop 
j...@warcop.commailto:j...@warcop.com wrote:
First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is Communications 
Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1.

You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD.

If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.

In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one new 
cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX integration, and 
move site by site or by application.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Ashwani Rmailto:ashw...@ranpise.com
Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x
Team,
I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their respective 
CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge both CUCM and 
UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They are running CUCM 
version 7.1.3.1-11 and UCCX cluster running 7.0(2) Build254.  What is the 
best way to do this? Can they keep both historical data from UCCX and move them 
to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just want to see if anyone has done 
it before.  We have already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new set of 
IP addresses with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ashwani
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Matthew Loraditch
Wait and see, probably after the holidays

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From: cisco-voip [cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] on behalf of Kevin 
Przybylowski [kev...@advancedtsg.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:24 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

Yep, I don’t see anything that supports the concurrent use of them in 10.6 
either.

From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Kevin Przybylowski
Cc: NateCCIE; Mike; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

From the 10.6 docs: Unified CCX does not support concurrent use of Cisco 
Finesse Desktop and Cisco Agent or Supervisor Desktop

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/crs/express_10_6/design/guide/UCCX_BK_CBB99111_00_cisco-unified-contact-center-express/UCCX_BK_CBB99111_00_cisco-unified-contact-center-express_chapter_011.html#UCCX_CN_D10F6AEF_00

Thought it was too good to be true, it would be handy for migrating customers 
over to Finesse

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Kevin Przybylowski 
kev...@advancedtsg.commailto:kev...@advancedtsg.com wrote:
That’s great, will help get people off CAD and into Finesse if you can easily 
show them in their own environment.

You’d think they would put this in the release notes as it’s a pretty big deal 
in the CCX world.

From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.commailto:natec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:14 PM
To: Charles Goldsmith
Cc: Kevin Przybylowski; Mike; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

10.6 is the first last and only version that allows both to be run on the same 
server.

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On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Charles Goldsmith 
wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
Kevin, not supported to run them both at the same time, unless 10.6 has indeed 
changed that, I haven't perused the docs yet.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Kevin Przybylowski 
kev...@advancedtsg.commailto:kev...@advancedtsg.com wrote:
Do you mean the last version?  They’ve been together the last few revisions.


From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:22 PM
To: Josh Warcop
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

UCCX 10.6 supports CAD and Finesse as ️Co-resident and rumor has it that is the 
only version that will support this configuration so plan accordingly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Josh Warcop 
j...@warcop.commailto:j...@warcop.com wrote:
First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is Communications 
Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1.

You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD.

If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.

In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one new 
cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX integration, and 
move site by site or by application.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Ashwani Rmailto:ashw...@ranpise.com
Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x
Team,
I have a customer who has two separate UCCX HA cluster with their respective 
CUCM cluster (merging two companies).  They would like to merge both CUCM and 
UCCX cluster to one cluster and upgrade them to 9.x.  They are running CUCM 
version 7.1.3.1-11 and UCCX cluster running 7.0(2) Build254.  What is the 
best way to do this? Can they keep both historical data from UCCX and move them 
to 9.x ?  I know this is not possible but just want to see if anyone has done 
it before.  We have already built new 9.x CUCM and UCCX cluster with new set of 
IP addresses with blank configurations. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ashwani
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Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 9.x

2014-12-18 Thread Abhiram Kramadhati (akramadh)
Hello,

The support for concurrent use of CAD and Finesse for UCCX is expected to be 
announced in January (in all likelihood). Our internal testing has completed, 
but we are waiting to tie up a few loose ends.

Regards,
Abhiram Kramadhati
CCIE Voice # 40065
Contact Center TAC
Cisco Systems

From: Matthew Loraditch 
mloradi...@heliontechnologies.commailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com
Date: Friday, 19 December 2014 7:22 am
To: Kevin Przybylowski kev...@advancedtsg.commailto:kev...@advancedtsg.com, 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

Wait and see, probably after the holidays

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From: cisco-voip 
[cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] 
on behalf of Kevin Przybylowski 
[kev...@advancedtsg.commailto:kev...@advancedtsg.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:24 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

Yep, I don’t see anything that supports the concurrent use of them in 10.6 
either.

From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Kevin Przybylowski
Cc: NateCCIE; Mike; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

From the 10.6 docs: Unified CCX does not support concurrent use of Cisco 
Finesse Desktop and Cisco Agent or Supervisor Desktop

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/crs/express_10_6/design/guide/UCCX_BK_CBB99111_00_cisco-unified-contact-center-express/UCCX_BK_CBB99111_00_cisco-unified-contact-center-express_chapter_011.html#UCCX_CN_D10F6AEF_00

Thought it was too good to be true, it would be handy for migrating customers 
over to Finesse

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Kevin Przybylowski 
kev...@advancedtsg.commailto:kev...@advancedtsg.com wrote:
That’s great, will help get people off CAD and into Finesse if you can easily 
show them in their own environment.

You’d think they would put this in the release notes as it’s a pretty big deal 
in the CCX world.

From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.commailto:natec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:14 PM
To: Charles Goldsmith
Cc: Kevin Przybylowski; Mike; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

10.6 is the first last and only version that allows both to be run on the same 
server.

Sent from my iPhone
+1 801 718 2308tel:%2B1%20801%20718%202308

On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Charles Goldsmith 
wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
Kevin, not supported to run them both at the same time, unless 10.6 has indeed 
changed that, I haven't perused the docs yet.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Kevin Przybylowski 
kev...@advancedtsg.commailto:kev...@advancedtsg.com wrote:
Do you mean the last version?  They’ve been together the last few revisions.


From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:22 PM
To: Josh Warcop
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate to 
9.x

UCCX 10.6 supports CAD and Finesse as ️Co-resident and rumor has it that is the 
only version that will support this configuration so plan accordingly.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Josh Warcop 
j...@warcop.commailto:j...@warcop.com wrote:
First - your target version should be the 10.6 release which is Communications 
Manager 10.5.2 and CCX 10.6.1.

You merging of UCCX should also include going to Finesse and dropping CAD.

If you have a non-overlapping dial plan the merging is simple. However if you 
have to do a lot of dial plan work it can be a good challenge.

In this case I would support the decision to build fresh and merge into one new 
cluster. This will allow you to build new dial plans, new UCCX integration, and 
move site by site or by application.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Ashwani Rmailto:ashw...@ranpise.com
Sent: ‎12/‎18/‎2014 8:39 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Consolidate two separate UCCX cluster and migrate