Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

2022-02-23 Thread Adam Pawlowski 
We rebuilt a bunch of them after a data center failure over summer. It did take 
up a bunch of time to schedule that maintenance and have someone run through 
it, but that was the worst of it.

In our lab things have been powered off / on forcefully before, and never any 
ill effect that I've run into that I can say is direct result, other than the 
experience I had with CER.

This document has been around for a number of years:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/unified-communications/unified-communications-manager-callmanager/116717-trouble-cucm-shutdown-00.html

so I would imagine that TAC, especially now with a shortage of 
engineers/experience, might want to check that instead of chasing weird issues.
We'd run into things where phone tracking would just stop operating, even with 
the process running. Or it would say it ran and nothing happened or updated 
until we restarted it.
Since CER is such jank in the background, with little exposed to really play 
with or look at, it was way faster to export, backup, re-install, restore, than 
to grind through that with TAC - and it seemed to solve our problem.

That being said restoring from backup is acceptable in these cases, and I have 
to wonder if it's possible for data in the database to be bad/corrupted as well 
in the backup if it's taken after that message is displayed. They didn't care. 
I think the call was some sort of consistency checking instead of just asking 
for it to be rebuilt, but I don't know if that would be delivered.

CER documentation specifically seemed to have a lot more wording in it about 
making sure it is running, it's working well, backed up, etc due to the nature 
of the service it is providing - likely to try and hedge against some sort of 
blame being placed on Cisco if an emergency call didn't complete.

Best,

Adam

From: Jonathan Charles 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 5:35 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Nick Russo ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Adam Pawlowski 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

Yeah, that seems a bit extreme...

Everything seems fine with the box... every check I have made says it is 
working fine... (DB Replication, status, test calls, phone tracking...)


Jonathan

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 3:11 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
A UPS with comms available. In our datacenter we have a UPS but it's not comms 
enabled.

This is yet another "special requirement" for Cisco collab software that will 
drive people crazy. Including management.

"Sorry, you took power away, I know have to spend the weekend rebuilding 8 
servers (or more)"

"But no one else is saying they have to rebuild servers"

"Yeah, it's another one of those special requirements"


From: Nick Russo mailto:russo...@yahoo.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 4:07 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>; Jonathan 
Charles mailto:jonv...@gmail.com>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>; Adam Pawlowski 
mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
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ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

This is my favorite new Cisco "feature".  All the 14.x platforms have this.  I 
think they implemented in 12.5(su4 or 5), but if the system goes down dirty, 
the official Cisco policy is to do a restore from backup.  So far, I haven't 
had any actual issues after this happens, but if your system is in this state, 
TAC won't help you until you've rebuilt.  There are a few options for graceful 
shutdown in VMWare, but your server needs to be on a UPS for them to work.

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 01:01:39 PM PST, Adam Pawlowski 
mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>> wrote:



I need to find it, but of course can't right now, but I swear this is in the ER 
documentation somewhere, some version, that the system must be re-installed if 
it shuts down unexpectedly. Outside of this message.



I got called out on it by TAC, and they have documentation way preceding that 
message appearing visibly to point out where unexpected shutdowns have occurred.



There was a back and forth in the community on this, with a lot of people more 
interesting in making the message go away than trying to figure out if the 
system was okay or rebuild it.

I guess in some places it is normal to operate the infrastructure on car 
batteries or what have you. I really must be missing something as this feels 
like the old "put tape over the check engine light" .



Same thing I said there - personally, rebuild the thing when you can on your 
time table, instead of having it fail later, or during an upgrade.

CER seems to be th

Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

2022-02-22 Thread Bill Talley 
It’s no different than it’s ever been except now Cisco sets a flag and TAC 
looks for that flag. It’s the most closed minded, short sighted policy change I 
ever seen from a technology company.



Sent from an iPhone mobile device with very tiny touchscreen input keys.  
Please excude my typtos.

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Nick Russo via cisco-voip 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is my favorite new Cisco "feature".  All the 14.x platforms have this.  
> I think they implemented in 12.5(su4 or 5), but if the system goes down 
> dirty, the official Cisco policy is to do a restore from backup.  So far, I 
> haven't had any actual issues after this happens, but if your system is in 
> this state, TAC won't help you until you've rebuilt.  There are a few options 
> for graceful shutdown in VMWare, but your server needs to be on a UPS for 
> them to work.
> 
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 01:01:39 PM PST, Adam Pawlowski 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I need to find it, but of course can’t right now, but I swear this is in the 
> ER documentation somewhere, some version, that the system must be 
> re-installed if it shuts down unexpectedly. Outside of this message.
> 
>  
> 
> I got called out on it by TAC, and they have documentation way preceding that 
> message appearing visibly to point out where unexpected shutdowns have 
> occurred.
> 
>  
> 
> There was a back and forth in the community on this, with a lot of people 
> more interesting in making the message go away than trying to figure out if 
> the system was okay or rebuild it.
> 
> I guess in some places it is normal to operate the infrastructure on car 
> batteries or what have you. I really must be missing something as this feels 
> like the old “put tape over the check engine light” .
> 
>  
> 
> Same thing I said there – personally, rebuild the thing when you can on your 
> time table, instead of having it fail later, or during an upgrade.
> 
> CER seems to be the easiest thing to re-install – if you have exports you can 
> replace the system functionality rather quickly even when DRF backups are no 
> good.
> 
>  
> 
> Adam
> 
>  
> 
> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
> Fulgenzi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 3:07 PM
> To: Jonathan Charles ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...
> 
>  
> 
> Yes – those warnings were making their way around another forum. It all has 
> to do with reviewing the log files for a corresponding manual shutdown for 
> any bootup sequences.
> 
>  
> 
> There is a fix (?) for the core apps found here. Normally these should work 
> on CER but it’s not listed. Not sure why.
> 
>  
> 
> https://www.cisco.com/web/software/286319173/139477/ciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf
> 
>  
> 
> From the readme (above):
> 
>  
> 
> The fix is included natively in 12.5.1SU6 (12.5.1.16900-x) and higher and 
> 14SU2 (14.0.1.12900-x) and higher.
> 
>  
> 
> Note: I don’t think this fixes the issue, just removes the warning. If TAC 
> reviews the logs and finds an ungraceful shutdown, they can start asking you 
> to rebuild.
> 
>  
> 
> PS I don’t see why a system can’t recover without a rebuild either.
> 
>  
> 
> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
> Charles
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 2:58 PM
> To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...
> 
>  
> 
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do 
> not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know 
> the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
> ith...@uoguelph.ca
> 
>  
> 
> Only on the CLI...
> 
>  
> 
> WARNING: Ungraceful shutdown detected - A rebuild of this node is highly 
> recommended to ensure no negative impact(such as configuration or file system 
> corruption). For rebuild instructions, see the installation guide.
> 
>  
> 
> The bugs suggest it should only be on 12.5 and early... this is on CER 14...
> 
>  
> 
> Any recommendations? This seems a bit extreme...
> 
>  
> 
> The system appears to be working normally.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Jonathan
> 
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Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

2022-02-22 Thread Jonathan Charles 
Yeah, that seems a bit extreme...

Everything seems fine with the box... every check I have made says it is
working fine... (DB Replication, status, test calls, phone tracking...)


Jonathan

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 3:11 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> A UPS with comms available. In our datacenter we have a UPS but it’s not
> comms enabled.
>
>
>
> This is yet another “special requirement” for Cisco collab software that
> will drive people crazy. Including management.
>
>
>
> “Sorry, you took power away, I know have to spend the weekend rebuilding 8
> servers (or more)”
>
>
>
> “But no one else is saying they have to rebuild servers”
>
>
>
> “Yeah, it’s another one of those special requirements”
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Nick Russo 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 4:07 PM
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi ; Jonathan Charles <
> jonv...@gmail.com>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Adam Pawlowski <
> aj...@buffalo.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...
>
>
>
> *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the University of
> Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
> sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails
> to ith...@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> This is my favorite new Cisco "feature".  All the 14.x platforms have
> this.  I think they implemented in 12.5(su4 or 5), but if the system goes
> down dirty, the official Cisco policy is to do a restore from backup.  So
> far, I haven't had any actual issues after this happens, but if your system
> is in this state, TAC won't help you until you've rebuilt.  There are a few
> options for graceful shutdown in VMWare, but your server needs to be on a
> UPS for them to work.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 01:01:39 PM PST, Adam Pawlowski <
> aj...@buffalo.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I need to find it, but of course can’t right now, but I swear this is in
> the ER documentation somewhere, some version, that the system must be
> re-installed if it shuts down unexpectedly. Outside of this message.
>
>
>
> I got called out on it by TAC, and they have documentation way preceding
> that message appearing visibly to point out where unexpected shutdowns have
> occurred.
>
>
>
> There was a back and forth in the community on this, with a lot of people
> more interesting in making the message go away than trying to figure out if
> the system was okay or rebuild it.
>
> I guess in some places it is normal to operate the infrastructure on car
> batteries or what have you. I really must be missing something as this
> feels like the old “put tape over the check engine light” .
>
>
>
> Same thing I said there – personally, rebuild the thing when you can on
> your time table, instead of having it fail later, or during an upgrade.
>
> CER seems to be the easiest thing to re-install – if you have exports you
> can replace the system functionality rather quickly even when DRF backups
> are no good.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 3:07 PM
> *To:* Jonathan Charles ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...
>
>
>
> Yes – those warnings were making their way around another forum. It all
> has to do with reviewing the log files for a corresponding manual shutdown
> for any bootup sequences.
>
>
>
> There is a fix (?) for the core apps found here. Normally these should
> work on CER but it’s not listed. Not sure why.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cisco.com/web/software/286319173/139477/ciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fweb%2Fsoftware%2F286319173%2F139477%2Fciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf=04%7C01%7Cajp26%40buffalo.edu%7C859cdfac22204a281abb08d9f63ee459%7C96464a8af8ed40b199e25f6b50a20250%7C0%7C0%7C637811573460286650%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=oEDfvBpF7svugCuHW%2B7dFkjMp7ECrAioYjVPabG8%2Bng%3D=0>
>
>
>
> From the readme (above):
>
>
>
> The fix is included natively in 12.5.1SU6 (12.5.1.16900-x) and higher and
> 14SU2 (14.0.1.12900-x) and higher.
>
>
>
> Note: I don’t think this fixes the issue, just removes the warning. If TAC
> reviews the logs and finds an ungraceful shutdown, they can start asking
> you to rebuild.
>
>
>
> PS I don’t see why a system can’t recover without a rebuild either.
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf

Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

2022-02-22 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 
A UPS with comms available. In our datacenter we have a UPS but it’s not comms 
enabled.

This is yet another “special requirement” for Cisco collab software that will 
drive people crazy. Including management.

“Sorry, you took power away, I know have to spend the weekend rebuilding 8 
servers (or more)”

“But no one else is saying they have to rebuild servers”

“Yeah, it’s another one of those special requirements”


From: Nick Russo 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 4:07 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; Jonathan Charles ; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Adam Pawlowski 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

This is my favorite new Cisco "feature".  All the 14.x platforms have this.  I 
think they implemented in 12.5(su4 or 5), but if the system goes down dirty, 
the official Cisco policy is to do a restore from backup.  So far, I haven't 
had any actual issues after this happens, but if your system is in this state, 
TAC won't help you until you've rebuilt.  There are a few options for graceful 
shutdown in VMWare, but your server needs to be on a UPS for them to work.

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 01:01:39 PM PST, Adam Pawlowski 
mailto:aj...@buffalo.edu>> wrote:



I need to find it, but of course can’t right now, but I swear this is in the ER 
documentation somewhere, some version, that the system must be re-installed if 
it shuts down unexpectedly. Outside of this message.



I got called out on it by TAC, and they have documentation way preceding that 
message appearing visibly to point out where unexpected shutdowns have occurred.



There was a back and forth in the community on this, with a lot of people more 
interesting in making the message go away than trying to figure out if the 
system was okay or rebuild it.

I guess in some places it is normal to operate the infrastructure on car 
batteries or what have you. I really must be missing something as this feels 
like the old “put tape over the check engine light” .



Same thing I said there – personally, rebuild the thing when you can on your 
time table, instead of having it fail later, or during an upgrade.

CER seems to be the easiest thing to re-install – if you have exports you can 
replace the system functionality rather quickly even when DRF backups are no 
good.



Adam



From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 3:07 PM
To: Jonathan Charles mailto:jonv...@gmail.com>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...



Yes – those warnings were making their way around another forum. It all has to 
do with reviewing the log files for a corresponding manual shutdown for any 
bootup sequences.



There is a fix (?) for the core apps found here. Normally these should work on 
CER but it’s not listed. Not sure why.



https://www.cisco.com/web/software/286319173/139477/ciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fweb%2Fsoftware%2F286319173%2F139477%2Fciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf=04%7C01%7Cajp26%40buffalo.edu%7C859cdfac22204a281abb08d9f63ee459%7C96464a8af8ed40b199e25f6b50a20250%7C0%7C0%7C637811573460286650%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=oEDfvBpF7svugCuHW%2B7dFkjMp7ECrAioYjVPabG8%2Bng%3D=0>



From the readme (above):



The fix is included natively in 12.5.1SU6 (12.5.1.16900-x) and higher and 14SU2 
(14.0.1.12900-x) and higher.



Note: I don’t think this fixes the issue, just removes the warning. If TAC 
reviews the logs and finds an ungraceful shutdown, they can start asking you to 
rebuild.



PS I don’t see why a system can’t recover without a rebuild either.



From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 2:58 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...



CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
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Only on the CLI...



WARNING: Ungraceful shutdown detected - A rebuild of this node is highly 
recommended to ensure no negative impact(such as configuration or file system 
corruption). For rebuild instructions, see the installation guide.



The bugs

Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

2022-02-22 Thread Nick Russo via cisco-voip 
 This is my favorite new Cisco "feature".  All the 14.x platforms have this.  I 
think they implemented in 12.5(su4 or 5), but if the system goes down dirty, 
the official Cisco policy is to do a restore from backup.  So far, I haven't 
had any actual issues after this happens, but if your system is in this state, 
TAC won't help you until you've rebuilt.  There are a few options for graceful 
shutdown in VMWare, but your server needs to be on a UPS for them to work.
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 01:01:39 PM PST, Adam Pawlowski 
 wrote:  
 
 
I need to find it, but of course can’t right now, but I swear this is in the ER 
documentation somewhere, some version, that the system must be re-installed if 
it shuts down unexpectedly. Outside of this message.
 
  
 
I got called out on it by TAC, and they have documentation way preceding that 
message appearing visibly to point out where unexpected shutdowns have occurred.
 
  
 
There was a back and forth in the community on this, with a lot of people more 
interesting in making the message go away than trying to figure out if the 
system was okay or rebuild it.
 
I guess in some places it is normal to operate the infrastructure on car 
batteries or what have you. I really must be missing something as this feels 
like the old “put tape over the check engine light” .
 
  
 
Same thing I said there – personally, rebuild the thing when you can on your 
time table, instead of having it fail later, or during an upgrade.
 
CER seems to be the easiest thing to re-install – if you have exports you can 
replace the system functionality rather quickly even when DRF backups are no 
good.
 
  
 
Adam
 
  
 
From: cisco-voip On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 3:07 PM
To: Jonathan Charles ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...
 
  
 
Yes – those warnings were making their way around another forum. It all has to 
do with reviewing the log files for a corresponding manual shutdown for any 
bootup sequences.
 
  
 
There is a fix (?) for the core apps found here. Normally these should work on 
CER but it’s not listed. Not sure why.
 
  
 
https://www.cisco.com/web/software/286319173/139477/ciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf
 
  
 
>From the readme (above):
 
  
 
The fix is included natively in 12.5.1SU6 (12.5.1.16900-x) and higher and 14SU2 
(14.0.1.12900-x) and higher.
 
  
 
Note: I don’t think this fixes the issue, just removes the warning. If TAC 
reviews the logs and finds an ungraceful shutdown, they can start asking you to 
rebuild.
 
  
 
PS I don’t see why a system can’t recover without a rebuild either.
 
  
 
From: cisco-voip On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Charles
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 2:58 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...
 
  
 
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails toith...@uoguelph.ca
 
  
 
Only on the CLI...
 
  
 
WARNING: Ungraceful shutdown detected - A rebuild of this node is highly 
recommended to ensure no negative impact(such as configuration or file system 
corruption). For rebuild instructions, see the installation guide.
 
  
 
The bugs suggest it should only be on 12.5 and early... this is on CER 14...
 
  
 
Any recommendations? This seems a bit extreme...
 
  
 
The system appears to be working normally.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
Jonathan
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Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

2022-02-22 Thread Adam Pawlowski 
I need to find it, but of course can't right now, but I swear this is in the ER 
documentation somewhere, some version, that the system must be re-installed if 
it shuts down unexpectedly. Outside of this message.

I got called out on it by TAC, and they have documentation way preceding that 
message appearing visibly to point out where unexpected shutdowns have occurred.

There was a back and forth in the community on this, with a lot of people more 
interesting in making the message go away than trying to figure out if the 
system was okay or rebuild it.
I guess in some places it is normal to operate the infrastructure on car 
batteries or what have you. I really must be missing something as this feels 
like the old "put tape over the check engine light" .

Same thing I said there - personally, rebuild the thing when you can on your 
time table, instead of having it fail later, or during an upgrade.
CER seems to be the easiest thing to re-install - if you have exports you can 
replace the system functionality rather quickly even when DRF backups are no 
good.

Adam

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 3:07 PM
To: Jonathan Charles ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

Yes - those warnings were making their way around another forum. It all has to 
do with reviewing the log files for a corresponding manual shutdown for any 
bootup sequences.

There is a fix (?) for the core apps found here. Normally these should work on 
CER but it's not listed. Not sure why.

https://www.cisco.com/web/software/286319173/139477/ciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fweb%2Fsoftware%2F286319173%2F139477%2Fciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf=04%7C01%7Cajp26%40buffalo.edu%7C859cdfac22204a281abb08d9f63ee459%7C96464a8af8ed40b199e25f6b50a20250%7C0%7C0%7C637811573460286650%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=oEDfvBpF7svugCuHW%2B7dFkjMp7ECrAioYjVPabG8%2Bng%3D=0>

>From the readme (above):

The fix is included natively in 12.5.1SU6 (12.5.1.16900-x) and higher and 14SU2 
(14.0.1.12900-x) and higher.

Note: I don't think this fixes the issue, just removes the warning. If TAC 
reviews the logs and finds an ungraceful shutdown, they can start asking you to 
rebuild.

PS I don't see why a system can't recover without a rebuild either.

From: cisco-voip 
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On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 2:58 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
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Only on the CLI...

WARNING: Ungraceful shutdown detected - A rebuild of this node is highly 
recommended to ensure no negative impact(such as configuration or file system 
corruption). For rebuild instructions, see the installation guide.

The bugs suggest it should only be on 12.5 and early... this is on CER 14...

Any recommendations? This seems a bit extreme...

The system appears to be working normally.



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Re: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

2022-02-22 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 
Yes – those warnings were making their way around another forum. It all has to 
do with reviewing the log files for a corresponding manual shutdown for any 
bootup sequences.

There is a fix (?) for the core apps found here. Normally these should work on 
CER but it’s not listed. Not sure why.

https://www.cisco.com/web/software/286319173/139477/ciscocm.add_utils_ungraceful_warn_disable_v1.0.cop-README.pdf

From the readme (above):

The fix is included natively in 12.5.1SU6 (12.5.1.16900-x) and higher and 14SU2 
(14.0.1.12900-x) and higher.

Note: I don’t think this fixes the issue, just removes the warning. If TAC 
reviews the logs and finds an ungraceful shutdown, they can start asking you to 
rebuild.

PS I don’t see why a system can’t recover without a rebuild either.

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Charles
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 2:58 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Fun message on CER after power outage...

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca

Only on the CLI...

WARNING: Ungraceful shutdown detected - A rebuild of this node is highly 
recommended to ensure no negative impact(such as configuration or file system 
corruption). For rebuild instructions, see the installation guide.

The bugs suggest it should only be on 12.5 and early... this is on CER 14...

Any recommendations? This seems a bit extreme...

The system appears to be working normally.



Jonathan
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