auto-formatting: no more jalopy
I was just looking at the jalopy lists for any sign of life, and I found out that jalopy is going proprietary. So unless someone starts a free fork, I'm afraid we're left once again without a plausible way of getting an auto-formatter. Perhaps Etienne will write his now :-) Link to the bad news: https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=2526002&forum_id=8775 Tom ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was just looking at the jalopy lists for any sign of life, and I > found out that jalopy is going proprietary. So unless someone starts > a free fork, I'm afraid we're left once again without a plausible way > of getting an auto-formatter. Perhaps Etienne will write his now :-) > > Link to the bad news: > > https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=2526002&forum_id=8775 Looking at CVS now. I don't care much about most of the editor plugins. Brian -- Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
Hi Tom & Brian, Jalopy seems to fill the needs, on the technical side. We could take the latest Free snapshot available before it becomes proprietary to indent the code. The only worry I have is that it is not obvious to me if all the licenses of the various parts of jalopy are compatible. Have a look at: http://jalopy.sourceforge.net/dependencies.html This seems like a big legal mess, as some dependent modules are under the GNU GPL (without special exceptions, as far as I know), and others are under the Apache license. We know that these two licenses are incompatible. Etienne PS: I have failed to make any meaningful progress on the code indenter this last Summer; my other projects SableCC & SableVM took most of my time (and I took real vacations for the first time in years). I will continue workinf on this indenter, but I think it would be wise for Classpath to investigate Jalopy for the time being. Brian Jones wrote: Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I was just looking at the jalopy lists for any sign of life, and I found out that jalopy is going proprietary. So unless someone starts a free fork, I'm afraid we're left once again without a plausible way of getting an auto-formatter. Perhaps Etienne will write his now :-) Link to the bad news: https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=2526002&forum_id=8775 Looking at CVS now. I don't care much about most of the editor plugins. Brian -- Etienne M. Gagnon, Ph.D. http://www.info.uqam.ca/~egagnon/ SableVM: http://www.sablevm.org/ SableCC: http://www.sablecc.org/ ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
Etienne Gagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Tom & Brian, > > Jalopy seems to fill the needs, on the technical side. We could take > the latest Free snapshot available before it becomes proprietary to > indent the code. > > The only worry I have is that it is not obvious to me if all the > licenses of the various parts of jalopy are compatible. > > Have a look at: > http://jalopy.sourceforge.net/dependencies.html The page incorrectly lists getopt and aelfred as GPL, instead getopt is released under the LGPL and aelfred under a license similar to BSD. This is a link to a late May message about the "commercial" release. August was a planned FCS but it's likely late. Nothing has been updated in available CVS since last November it appears to me. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=2463425&forum_id=8775 Brian -- Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
Hi Brian & all, So, given that there seem to be no licensing problem, we should definitely consider using "Jalopy" to indent the Classpath Java source code, and "GNU indent" to indent the C source code. I do not know if any free jvm is currently able to run Jalopy, but I am sure they will quite soon. [This would be a good benchmark for SableVM. :-)] On an unrelated note: David Belanger has got SableVM to work with Classpath 0.06. His working code is in SableVM's Subversion repository (http://subversion.tigris.org/). If anybody is interested to play with it, do not hesitate to ask questions on the sablevm-developer mainling-list. Etienne Brian Jones wrote: Etienne Gagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The only worry I have is that it is not obvious to me if all the licenses of the various parts of jalopy are compatible. Have a look at: http://jalopy.sourceforge.net/dependencies.html The page incorrectly lists getopt and aelfred as GPL, instead getopt is released under the LGPL and aelfred under a license similar to BSD. This is a link to a late May message about the "commercial" release. August was a planned FCS but it's likely late. Nothing has been updated in available CVS since last November it appears to me. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=2463425&forum_id=8775 Brian -- Etienne M. Gagnon, Ph.D. http://www.info.uqam.ca/~egagnon/ SableVM: http://www.sablevm.org/ SableCC: http://www.sablecc.org/ ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
Of course, we should keep around a copy of Jalopy's current CVS, in case it becomes proprietary. But, as far as I know, SourceForge should only be hosting non-proprietary versions, anyway. Etienne Etienne Gagnon wrote: Hi Brian & all, So, given that there seem to be no licensing problem, we should definitely consider using "Jalopy" to indent the Classpath Java source code, and "GNU indent" to indent the C source code. -- Etienne M. Gagnon, Ph.D. http://www.info.uqam.ca/~egagnon/ SableVM: http://www.sablevm.org/ SableCC: http://www.sablecc.org/ ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
> "Etienne" == Etienne Gagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Etienne> Jalopy seems to fill the needs, on the technical side. We could take Etienne> the latest Free snapshot available before it becomes proprietary to Etienne> indent the code. Actually, there are a few problems with it. We'd like a blank line before `package' (we can't use header insertion due to copyright years), and jalopy doesn't support that. Also I think it doesn't handle indentation of method bodies the way we would like. Or was it `if' statement bodies? I submitted a couple jalopy bug reports a few months ago... Of course we could just hack these features and have a "classpath only" fork of jalopy. I've attached the "GNU.jalopy" config file I made, way back. It should come pretty close to our style. But not close enough to use :-( Tom GNU.jalopy Description: GNU.jalopy ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, there are a few problems with it. Bug: Printer Java: GNU brace style does not indent beyond braces http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=716393&group_id=45216&atid=442212 I couldn't find any more. > Of course we could just hack these features and have a "classpath > only" fork of jalopy. Maybe. -- Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
OK. I will try to get some of my compiler course students to make a term project, out of it. It should be fun for them, and they will get a wide community of testers. ;-) Etienne Tom Tromey wrote: Actually, there are a few problems with it. We'd like a blank line before `package' (we can't use header insertion due to copyright years), and jalopy doesn't support that. Also I think it doesn't handle indentation of method bodies the way we would like. Or was it `if' statement bodies? I submitted a couple jalopy bug reports a few months ago... Of course we could just hack these features and have a "classpath only" fork of jalopy. I've attached the "GNU.jalopy" config file I made, way back. It should come pretty close to our style. But not close enough to use :-( Tom -- Etienne M. Gagnon, Ph.D. http://www.info.uqam.ca/~egagnon/ SableVM: http://www.sablevm.org/ SableCC: http://www.sablecc.org/ ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
> "Brian" == Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> Bug: Printer Java: GNU brace style does not indent beyond braces Brian> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=716393&group_id=45216&atid=442212 I tried adding gnu-style indent to jalopy today. Unfortunately the result dies while trying to parse our javadoc. So, I'm giving up. I can send my hack if somebody wants it. The real "GNU.xml" style file is attached to the above PR. Tom ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
Re: auto-formatting: no more jalopy
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Brian" == Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Brian> Bug: Printer Java: GNU brace style does not indent beyond braces > Brian> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=716393&group_id=45216&atid=442212 > > I tried adding gnu-style indent to jalopy today. Unfortunately the > result dies while trying to parse our javadoc. So, I'm giving up. I > can send my hack if somebody wants it. The real "GNU.xml" style file > is attached to the above PR. Go ahead and send my way, I'm starting to play with it too. Brian -- Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath
