Re: sp mm training in hyderabada

[Sean Corfield]

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Fluid Dynamics  wrote:

> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 9:27:33 AM UTC-4, sunitha seo wrote:
>>
>> Sap Bw Bi Bo Training Centre in Hyderabad | Vijayawada |Guntur | Vizag,
>> Online Sap Bw Bi Bo Training In USA, sp mm  training in hyderabada
>>  New York, New
>> Jersey,Dallas, Chicago, Atlanta, UK, Canada, Australia, India.
>> www.primarkinfotech.com/*sap*bwbi.php
>> 
>>
> Is this a job posting or something?
>

It's spam. The poster should be banned (if the moderators haven't already
done so). I moderate a number of groups on LinkedIn and this sort of
annoying stuff gets posted all the time :(
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Re: sp mm training in hyderabada

[Ruslan Prokopchuk]

May be it is the entry test for applicants ;-) Some kind of cryptoanalytics 
job :-)))

понедельник, 13 апреля 2015 г., 19:32:59 UTC+3 пользователь Fluid Dynamics 
написал:
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 9:27:33 AM UTC-4, sunitha seo wrote:
>>
>> Sap Bw Bi Bo Training Centre in Hyderabad | Vijayawada |Guntur | Vizag, 
>> Online Sap Bw Bi Bo Training In USA, sp mm  training in hyderabada 
>>  New York, New 
>> Jersey,Dallas, Chicago, Atlanta, UK, Canada, Australia, India. 
>> www.primarkinfotech.com/*sap*bwbi.php 
>> 
>>
>
> Is this a job posting or something? I can't interpret it as it's too 
> elliptical. Try spelling things out in complete words and sentences if you 
> want any applicants. There is another recent job post here that is much 
> more readable; try emulating that example.
>

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Re: feedback on side project

[Alexis]

Sebastian Bensusan  writes:

As a side notes, in Lisp it is convention to append "!" to those 
functions that have side-effects (i.e. mutate state).


Well, not in /all/ Lisps. :-) It is the convention in Scheme[1], 
for example, but not in e.g. Emacs Lisp or Common Lisp. In the 
latter, for example, c.f. 'nconc', which modifies lists in-place.



Alexis.

[1] Modulo debates about whether or not Scheme is 'really' a Lisp.

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Re: Any chance of a module system being added to the language?

[Mark Derricutt]

On 13 Apr 2015, at 19:22, Colin Yates wrote:

> Ok, thanks Mark.

Ping me on IRC (friend) or Twitter @talios if you have any questions..

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Re: [ANN] Dunaj lite, a library-only version of Dunaj

[Mark Engelberg]

Thanks for making this easier to use as a library.  I find the Dunaj
project very inspiring.

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Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Andy-]

Why not just change the `?' to `_'? ?
So:
#?(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))
then
#_(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))

Even saved a character :)


On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 3:38:01 PM UTC-4, whodidthis wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 4:48:28 PM UTC+3, Alex Miller wrote:
>>
>> I think what you're seeing here makes sense.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 3:39:15 PM UTC-5, whodidthis wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any thoughts on code like this:
>>>
>>> #_
>>>
>>
>> This says to ignore the next read form
>>  
>>
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))
>>>
>>
>> This evaluates to *nothing*, ie nothing is read, so it is not ignored by 
>> the #_.
>>  
>>
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-2 nil))
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-3 nil))
>>>
>>
>> These also read as *nothing*.
>>  
>>
>>> #?(:clj (def n 10))
>>>
>>
>> This *is* read, but ignored per the prior #_ 
>>
>> #?(:clj (defn num [] n))
>>> ; compile on clj =>RuntimeException: Unable to resolve symbol: n
>>>
>>
>> And then this makes sense.
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> I guess it's fine if it continues to work that way but I can imagine it 
>>> being a little surprising from time to time heh
>>>
>>
>> Conditional reading is definitely something to be careful about - I think 
>> in this case you are combining two types of conditional reading so be 
>> doubly careful. :) 
>>
>> To get the effect you want in this, using #_ *inside* the reader 
>> conditional would work:
>>
>> #?(:cljs #_(def unrelated-1 nil))
>>
>
> Sorry, back to this stuff again. I tried using discard inside but 
>
> #?(:clj #_'whatever)
>
> just throws
>
> CompilerException java.lang.RuntimeException: read-cond starting on line 
> 32 requires an even number of forms"
>
> when compiling on clojure.
>
> Would be nice to have a way to ignore reader conditional forms or the 
> thingie things inside but there does not seem to be an easy way.
>

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Re: [ANN] edn.el

[Blake Miller]

Cool! May I ask what your motivation was for this?

On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 3:09:28 AM UTC-7, Lars Andersen wrote:
>
>  https://github.com/expez/edn.el 
>
> is a library for reading an writing edn from emacs lisp.
>
>

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Re: feedback on side project

[Sebastian Bensusan]

That's what fixtures are for:

https://clojuredocs.org/clojure.test/use-fixtures

(with-fixture :each (reset-games))

As a side notes, in Lisp it is convention to append "!" to those functions 
that have side-effects (i.e. mutate state). A good candidate would be 
`reset-games!`.


On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 9:18:21 PM UTC+2, Andrea Crotti wrote:
>
> Awesome thanks, the only thing is that the reason why I did the 
> reset-games thing is because in the tests I can reset things every 
> time. 
>
>   (testing "create new game" 
> (reset-games) 
> (new-game) 
> (is (= 1 (length-current-games 
>
> If I don't do that then it's harder in the tests to have a clean 
> environment.. 
> Maybe that shows a wrong approach in general. 
> These are the tests I'm talking about 
>
> https://github.com/AndreaCrotti/hackthetower_clojurescript/blob/master/hangman/test/hangman/secret_test.clj
>  
>
> 2015-04-11 10:02 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Bensusan  >: 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I browsed over it, a couple of things: 
> > 
> > `defonce` is meant for code reloading: 
> > 
> > (defonce live-games (ref {}))) 
> > 
> > Don't use `for` when you can use `map`: 
> > 
> > (mapv (fn [i] {:char i :visible (not (valid-char i))})) 
> > 
> > Strings can be treated as sequences: 
> > 
> > (first (.toLowerCase (str char))) 
> > 
> > Hope this helps 
> > 
> > Sebastian 
> > 
> > On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 11:35:33 AM UTC+2, Andrea Crotti wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I created a small project just for learning more Clojure and wanted 
> some 
> >> feedback to improve it and learn some more. 
> >> 
> >> The code is all here, and it's both a desktop app that can be run with 
> >> "lein run" or a web API that can be run with "lein ring server": 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> https://github.com/AndreaCrotti/hackthetower_clojurescript/tree/master/hangman
>  
> >> 
> >> The game is basically this 
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangman_%28game%29 (without the fancy 
> >> graphics still) 
> >> 
> >> This is the sample structure of a move right now: 
> >> {:attempts 0 
> >>  :seen #{} 
> >>  :struct [{:char \a :visible false} {:char \b :visible false} {:char 
> >> \c :visible false}]} 
> >> 
> >> So every time someone makes a move it will add a new game position to 
> >> a list of game snapshots, for example: 
> >> 
> >> {"long-game-id": [{:attempts 1 :seen ${\a} :struct [{...}]} {:attempts 
> >> 0 :seen #{} :struct [{...}]}]} 
> >> 
> >> and so on and so forth. 
> >> 
> >> This is the function that alters the reference for example 
> >> 
> >> (defn set-secret 
> >>   "Set the secret for a given name" 
> >>   [game-id game-struct] 
> >>   (dosync 
> >>(alter live-games 
> >>   (fn [d] (assoc d game-id (conj (get d game-id) 
> game-struct)) 
> >> 
> >> Any suggestions is welcome, I also had some troubles trying to 
> >> minimize the refs/atoms while at the same time avoiding passing too 
> >> many things around. 
> >> 
> >> I think now the solution of using game-id to hide the implementation 
> >> detail in 
> >> 
> https://github.com/AndreaCrotti/hackthetower_clojurescript/blob/master/hangman/src/hangman/secret.clj
>  
> >> is not too bad but open for better ideas. 
> >> 
> >> Thanks a lot, and if anyone is interested in joining the project 
> >> please let me know. 
> >> 
> >> PS. next things to do are some deployment nice stuff, graphics with 
> >> Quill and a UI with Clojurescript 
> > 
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Re: [ClojureScript] Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Andy Fingerhut]

Your particular example is equivalent to #?(:clj) which is illegal, for the 
reason given in the error message you saw.

Normal Clojure comments are far less surprising in their behavior than #_ is

I understand there can be convenience in using #_ when it works.

Andy

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> On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:38 PM, whodidthis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 4:48:28 PM UTC+3, Alex Miller wrote:
>> I think what you're seeing here makes sense.
>> 
>>> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 3:39:15 PM UTC-5, whodidthis wrote:
>>> Are there any thoughts on code like this:
>>> 
>>> #_
>> 
>> This says to ignore the next read form
>>  
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))
>> 
>> This evaluates to *nothing*, ie nothing is read, so it is not ignored by the 
>> #_.
>>  
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-2 nil))
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-3 nil))
>> 
>> These also read as *nothing*.
>>  
>>> #?(:clj (def n 10))
>> 
>> This *is* read, but ignored per the prior #_ 
>> 
>>> #?(:clj (defn num [] n))
>>> ; compile on clj =>RuntimeException: Unable to resolve symbol: n
>> 
>> And then this makes sense.
>>  
>>> 
>>> I guess it's fine if it continues to work that way but I can imagine it 
>>> being a little surprising from time to time heh
>> 
>> Conditional reading is definitely something to be careful about - I think in 
>> this case you are combining two types of conditional reading so be doubly 
>> careful. :) 
>> 
>> To get the effect you want in this, using #_ *inside* the reader conditional 
>> would work:
>> 
>> #?(:cljs #_(def unrelated-1 nil))
> 
> Sorry, back to this stuff again. I tried using discard inside but 
> 
> #?(:clj #_'whatever)
> 
> just throws
> 
> CompilerException java.lang.RuntimeException: read-cond starting on line 32 
> requires an even number of forms"
> 
> when compiling on clojure.
> 
> Would be nice to have a way to ignore reader conditional forms or the thingie 
> things inside but there does not seem to be an easy way.
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Re: [ClojureScript] Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Michał Marczyk]

Just noticed that I sent my previous email to clojure-dev only – reposting
to all groups involved:

On 13 April 2015 at 16:25, Michał Marczyk  wrote:
> On 13 April 2015 at 15:48, Alex Miller  wrote:
> To get the effect you want in this, using #_ *inside* the reader
conditional would work:
>
> #?(:cljs #_(def unrelated-1 nil))
>
> Actually this doesn't work because of the cond-like structure of #?
conditionals:
>
> user=> (read-string {:read-cond :allow} "#?(:clj #_foo) bar")
> RuntimeException read-cond requires an even number of forms.
 clojure.lang.Util.runtimeException (Util.java:221)

To this I would add that it is possible to say

Clojure 1.7.0-beta1
user=> (read-string {:read-cond :allow} "#?(#_#_:clj foo) bar")
bar

taking advantage of the nice "stacking" property of #_ (which follows from
the recursive nature of the reader in the same way that the original
surprising case does).

Cheers,
Michał


On 13 April 2015 at 21:38, whodidthis  wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 4:48:28 PM UTC+3, Alex Miller wrote:
>>
>> I think what you're seeing here makes sense.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 3:39:15 PM UTC-5, whodidthis wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any thoughts on code like this:
>>>
>>> #_
>>>
>>
>> This says to ignore the next read form
>>
>>
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))
>>>
>>
>> This evaluates to *nothing*, ie nothing is read, so it is not ignored by
>> the #_.
>>
>>
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-2 nil))
>>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-3 nil))
>>>
>>
>> These also read as *nothing*.
>>
>>
>>> #?(:clj (def n 10))
>>>
>>
>> This *is* read, but ignored per the prior #_
>>
>> #?(:clj (defn num [] n))
>>> ; compile on clj =>RuntimeException: Unable to resolve symbol: n
>>>
>>
>> And then this makes sense.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I guess it's fine if it continues to work that way but I can imagine it
>>> being a little surprising from time to time heh
>>>
>>
>> Conditional reading is definitely something to be careful about - I think
>> in this case you are combining two types of conditional reading so be
>> doubly careful. :)
>>
>> To get the effect you want in this, using #_ *inside* the reader
>> conditional would work:
>>
>> #?(:cljs #_(def unrelated-1 nil))
>>
>
> Sorry, back to this stuff again. I tried using discard inside but
>
> #?(:clj #_'whatever)
>
> just throws
>
> CompilerException java.lang.RuntimeException: read-cond starting on line
> 32 requires an even number of forms"
>
> when compiling on clojure.
>
> Would be nice to have a way to ignore reader conditional forms or the
> thingie things inside but there does not seem to be an easy way.
>
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Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[whodidthis]

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 4:48:28 PM UTC+3, Alex Miller wrote:
>
> I think what you're seeing here makes sense.
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 3:39:15 PM UTC-5, whodidthis wrote:
>>
>> Are there any thoughts on code like this:
>>
>> #_
>>
>
> This says to ignore the next read form
>  
>
>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))
>>
>
> This evaluates to *nothing*, ie nothing is read, so it is not ignored by 
> the #_.
>  
>
>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-2 nil))
>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-3 nil))
>>
>
> These also read as *nothing*.
>  
>
>> #?(:clj (def n 10))
>>
>
> This *is* read, but ignored per the prior #_ 
>
> #?(:clj (defn num [] n))
>> ; compile on clj =>RuntimeException: Unable to resolve symbol: n
>>
>
> And then this makes sense.
>  
>
>>
>> I guess it's fine if it continues to work that way but I can imagine it 
>> being a little surprising from time to time heh
>>
>
> Conditional reading is definitely something to be careful about - I think 
> in this case you are combining two types of conditional reading so be 
> doubly careful. :) 
>
> To get the effect you want in this, using #_ *inside* the reader 
> conditional would work:
>
> #?(:cljs #_(def unrelated-1 nil))
>

Sorry, back to this stuff again. I tried using discard inside but 

#?(:clj #_'whatever)

just throws

CompilerException java.lang.RuntimeException: read-cond starting on line 32 
requires an even number of forms"

when compiling on clojure.

Would be nice to have a way to ignore reader conditional forms or the 
thingie things inside but there does not seem to be an easy way.

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Re: feedback on side project

[andrea crotti]

Awesome thanks, the only thing is that the reason why I did the
reset-games thing is because in the tests I can reset things every
time.

  (testing "create new game"
(reset-games)
(new-game)
(is (= 1 (length-current-games

If I don't do that then it's harder in the tests to have a clean environment..
Maybe that shows a wrong approach in general.
These are the tests I'm talking about
https://github.com/AndreaCrotti/hackthetower_clojurescript/blob/master/hangman/test/hangman/secret_test.clj

2015-04-11 10:02 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Bensusan :
> Hi,
>
> I browsed over it, a couple of things:
>
> `defonce` is meant for code reloading:
>
> (defonce live-games (ref {})))
>
> Don't use `for` when you can use `map`:
>
> (mapv (fn [i] {:char i :visible (not (valid-char i))}))
>
> Strings can be treated as sequences:
>
> (first (.toLowerCase (str char)))
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Sebastian
>
> On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 11:35:33 AM UTC+2, Andrea Crotti wrote:
>>
>> I created a small project just for learning more Clojure and wanted some
>> feedback to improve it and learn some more.
>>
>> The code is all here, and it's both a desktop app that can be run with
>> "lein run" or a web API that can be run with "lein ring server":
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/AndreaCrotti/hackthetower_clojurescript/tree/master/hangman
>>
>> The game is basically this
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangman_%28game%29 (without the fancy
>> graphics still)
>>
>> This is the sample structure of a move right now:
>> {:attempts 0
>>  :seen #{}
>>  :struct [{:char \a :visible false} {:char \b :visible false} {:char
>> \c :visible false}]}
>>
>> So every time someone makes a move it will add a new game position to
>> a list of game snapshots, for example:
>>
>> {"long-game-id": [{:attempts 1 :seen ${\a} :struct [{...}]} {:attempts
>> 0 :seen #{} :struct [{...}]}]}
>>
>> and so on and so forth.
>>
>> This is the function that alters the reference for example
>>
>> (defn set-secret
>>   "Set the secret for a given name"
>>   [game-id game-struct]
>>   (dosync
>>(alter live-games
>>   (fn [d] (assoc d game-id (conj (get d game-id) game-struct))
>>
>> Any suggestions is welcome, I also had some troubles trying to
>> minimize the refs/atoms while at the same time avoiding passing too
>> many things around.
>>
>> I think now the solution of using game-id to hide the implementation
>> detail in
>> https://github.com/AndreaCrotti/hackthetower_clojurescript/blob/master/hangman/src/hangman/secret.clj
>> is not too bad but open for better ideas.
>>
>> Thanks a lot, and if anyone is interested in joining the project
>> please let me know.
>>
>> PS. next things to do are some deployment nice stuff, graphics with
>> Quill and a UI with Clojurescript
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Re: [ANN] Clojure Applied: From Practice to Practitioner

[Alex Miller]

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 9:40:39 AM UTC-5, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
> Will we be notified as new content is added so we can update our 
> electronic versions?
>

Yes, you should be notified when it's updated. Also, if you visit the 
Pragmatic web site and log in, they will notify you if any books on your 
bookshelf have been updated.

We will probably have another update next week with chapter 8 and any 
errata fixes since the first release.

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Re: Help: Markdown in Leiningen project :description not recognized by codox

[James Reeves]

It's not something that's supported in Codox at the moment.

- James

On 13 April 2015 at 17:02, henrik42  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to use Markdown in the description of my Leiningen project.clj:
>
> (defproject foo "0.1.0-SNAPSHOT"
>   :description  "*foo* is my project"
>   :plugins [[codox "0.8.11"]]
>   :codox {:defaults {:doc/format :markdown}}
> [...])
>
> But its not working. Markdown in function descriptions is working fine.
>
> Is this by design or a bug? Any idea?
>
> - Henrik
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Re: sp mm training in hyderabada

[Fluid Dynamics]

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 9:27:33 AM UTC-4, sunitha seo wrote:
>
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> Online Sap Bw Bi Bo Training In USA, sp mm  training in hyderabada 
>  New York, New Jersey,Dallas, 
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> *sap*bwbi.php 
>

Is this a job posting or something? I can't interpret it as it's too 
elliptical. Try spelling things out in complete words and sentences if you 
want any applicants. There is another recent job post here that is much 
more readable; try emulating that example.

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Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[whodidthis]

Sounds like you guys have it figured out; conditional reading forms cannot 
be ignored, only their results.

Just wanted to make sure, had some bad times with it heh

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 4:48:28 PM UTC+3, Alex Miller wrote:
>
> I think what you're seeing here makes sense.
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 3:39:15 PM UTC-5, whodidthis wrote:
>>
>> Are there any thoughts on code like this:
>>
>> #_
>>
>
> This says to ignore the next read form
>  
>
>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))
>>
>
> This evaluates to *nothing*, ie nothing is read, so it is not ignored by 
> the #_.
>  
>
>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-2 nil))
>> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-3 nil))
>>
>
> These also read as *nothing*.
>  
>
>> #?(:clj (def n 10))
>>
>
> This *is* read, but ignored per the prior #_ 
>
> #?(:clj (defn num [] n))
>> ; compile on clj =>RuntimeException: Unable to resolve symbol: n
>>
>
> And then this makes sense.
>  
>
>>
>> I guess it's fine if it continues to work that way but I can imagine it 
>> being a little surprising from time to time heh
>>
>
> Conditional reading is definitely something to be careful about - I think 
> in this case you are combining two types of conditional reading so be 
> doubly careful. :) 
>
> To get the effect you want in this, using #_ *inside* the reader 
> conditional would work:
>
> #?(:cljs #_(def unrelated-1 nil))
>
>  
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Help: Markdown in Leiningen project :description not recognized by codox

[henrik42]

Hi,

I'd like to use Markdown in the description of my Leiningen project.clj:

(defproject foo "0.1.0-SNAPSHOT"
  :description  "*foo* is my project"
  :plugins [[codox "0.8.11"]]
  :codox {:defaults {:doc/format :markdown}}
[...])

But its not working. Markdown in function descriptions is working fine.

Is this by design or a bug? Any idea?

- Henrik

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New Functional Programming Job Opportunities

[Functional Jobs]

Here are some functional programming job opportunities that were posted

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Re: [ClojureScript] Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Daniel Kersten]

Ouch! But that actually makes a lot of sense.

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:58 Alex Miller  wrote:

> There is a ticket to consider a portable solution to this issue:
>
> http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-1293
>
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-5, David Nolen wrote:
>
>> The only reason :default exists is because *anything* in JavaScript can
>> be thrown and there needs to be some way to catch non-Error derived values.
>> This is not the case for Java of course. :default could probably be aliased
>> to Throwable, but in the meantime differences like this are now handleable
>> via conditional reading.
>>
>> David
>>
>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Robin Heggelund Hansen <
>> skinn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm... In Clojurescript you can do the following
>>>
>>> (try
>>>   ;; throw something
>>>   (catch :default e
>>>  e))
>>>
>>> When I try the same thing in Clojure, it seems to not be supported. Is
>>> there any plans to support this syntax in Clojure 1.7?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [ANN] Clojure Applied: From Practice to Practitioner

[Andy Fingerhut]

I have bought books while in beta version from Pragmatic Programmers
before, and they always sent me email whenever the book had an update to
its content (I ordered the book on their web site, so they had my contact
info).

Andy

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Jonathon McKitrick 
wrote:

> Will we be notified as new content is added so we can update our
> electronic versions?
>
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 10:01:04 AM UTC-4, Alex Miller wrote:
>>
>> The errata form is for technical errors, typos, and suggestions.
>>
>> If you have broader questions or items for discussion, there is also a
>> forum available:
>> https://forums.pragprog.com/forums/352
>>
>> Probably better to use either of those than this group.
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 8:28:46 AM UTC-5, Nando Breiter wrote:
>>>
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>> Would you also like general feedback at the pragprog.com
>>> 
>>> url? Or is that better here?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aria Media Sagl
>>> Via Rompada 40
>>> 6987 Caslano
>>> Switzerland
>>>
>>> +41 (0)91 600 9601
>>> +41 (0)76 303 4477 cell
>>> skype: ariamedia
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Alex Miller 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Mohit!

 There was a bug around this that I had fixed at one point, perhaps I
 didn't get that change applied. BTW, for future "bugs" on the book, it's
 best to file them here so we can track them: https://pragprog.com/
 titles/vmclojeco/errata

 Alex


 On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 1:28:03 AM UTC-5, Mohit Thatte wrote:
>
> Alex
>
> I read the preview chapters, great read so far. Looking forward to the
> whole book.
>
> There seems to be a small error in the Value Based Dispatch section on
> page 8, where the comments don't match the code. oz and lb seem to be
> flipped!
>
> (defmulti convert
>> "Convert quantity from unit1 to unit2, matching on [unit1 unit2]"
>> (fn [unit1 unit2 quantity] [unit1 unit2]))
>>
>> ;; lb to oz
>> (defmethod convert [:lb :oz] [_ _ oz] (* oz 16))
>>
>> ;; oz to lb
>> (defmethod convert [:oz :lb] [_ _ lb] (/ lb 16))
>>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Mohit
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 6:35:05 AM UTC+5:30, Alex Miller wrote:
>>
>> Great to hear!
>
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Re: [ANN] Clojure Applied: From Practice to Practitioner

[Matt Mitchell]

Just picked it up! Thanks Alex. Sounds like the sort of thing I've been 
wanting more info on for a while now. Looking forward to the reading!

- Matt

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 9:27:58 AM UTC-4, Alex Miller wrote:
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> Hey all,
>
> I'm very happy to announce that Clojure Applied is now available in beta:
>
> https://pragprog.com/book/vmclojeco/clojure-applied
>
> I've been working on this with Ben Vandgrift for a long time, hoping to 
> fill the underserved niche of *intermediate* Clojure material. Our goal 
> is to step in after you've read any of the fine introductory books and 
> provide the next level of guidance needed to successfully apply Clojure to 
> real problems.
>
> The chapters are:
>
> 1. Model Your Domain - an overview of modeling domain entities, modeling 
> relationships, validating them, and creating domain operations.
> 2. Collect And Organize Your Data - choosing the right collection, 
> updating collections, accessing collections, and building custom 
> collections.
> 3. Processing Sequential Data - using sequence functions and transducers 
> to transform your data.
> 4. State, Identity, and Change - modeling change and state with Clojure's 
> state constructs.
> 5. Use Your Cores - waiting in the background, queues and workers, 
> parallelism with reducers, and thinking in processes with core.async.
> 6. Creating Components - organizing your code with namespaces, designing 
> component APIs, connecting components with core.async channels, and 
> implementing components with state.
> 7. Compose Your Application - assembling components, configuration, and 
> entry points.
> 8. Testing Clojure - example- and property-based testing with 
> clojure.test, expectations, and test.check. 
> 9. Playing With Others - details TBD
> 10. Getting Out The Door - publishing your code and deploying your 
> application.
>
> Chapters 1-6 and 10 are available now in beta form. We expect to release a 
> new chapter every 2-3 weeks until completion. The printed book should be 
> available this fall.
>
> Alex
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Re: [ANN] Clojure Applied: From Practice to Practitioner

[Jonathon McKitrick]

Will we be notified as new content is added so we can update our electronic 
versions?

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 10:01:04 AM UTC-4, Alex Miller wrote:
>
> The errata form is for technical errors, typos, and suggestions.
>
> If you have broader questions or items for discussion, there is also a 
> forum available: 
> https://forums.pragprog.com/forums/352
>
> Probably better to use either of those than this group.
>
> Thanks...
>
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 8:28:46 AM UTC-5, Nando Breiter wrote:
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> Would you also like general feedback at the pragprog.com 
>> 
>>  
>> url? Or is that better here?
>>
>>
>>
>> Aria Media Sagl
>> Via Rompada 40
>> 6987 Caslano
>> Switzerland
>>
>> +41 (0)91 600 9601
>> +41 (0)76 303 4477 cell
>> skype: ariamedia
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Alex Miller  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Mohit!
>>>
>>> There was a bug around this that I had fixed at one point, perhaps I 
>>> didn't get that change applied. BTW, for future "bugs" on the book, it's 
>>> best to file them here so we can track them: 
>>> https://pragprog.com/titles/vmclojeco/errata
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 1:28:03 AM UTC-5, Mohit Thatte wrote:

 Alex 

 I read the preview chapters, great read so far. Looking forward to the 
 whole book.

 There seems to be a small error in the Value Based Dispatch section on 
 page 8, where the comments don't match the code. oz and lb seem to be 
 flipped!

 (defmulti convert
> "Convert quantity from unit1 to unit2, matching on [unit1 unit2]"
> (fn [unit1 unit2 quantity] [unit1 unit2]))
>
> ;; lb to oz
> (defmethod convert [:lb :oz] [_ _ oz] (* oz 16))
>
> ;; oz to lb
> (defmethod convert [:oz :lb] [_ _ lb] (/ lb 16))
>


 Cheers,
 Mohit

 On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 6:35:05 AM UTC+5:30, Alex Miller wrote:
>
> Great to hear!

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Re: [ANN] Clojure Applied: From Practice to Practitioner

[Alex Miller]

The errata form is for technical errors, typos, and suggestions.

If you have broader questions or items for discussion, there is also a 
forum available: 
https://forums.pragprog.com/forums/352

Probably better to use either of those than this group.

Thanks...


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>
> Alex,
>
> Would you also like general feedback at the pragprog.com 
> 
>  
> url? Or is that better here?
>
>
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> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Alex Miller  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mohit!
>>
>> There was a bug around this that I had fixed at one point, perhaps I 
>> didn't get that change applied. BTW, for future "bugs" on the book, it's 
>> best to file them here so we can track them: 
>> https://pragprog.com/titles/vmclojeco/errata
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 1:28:03 AM UTC-5, Mohit Thatte wrote:
>>>
>>> Alex 
>>>
>>> I read the preview chapters, great read so far. Looking forward to the 
>>> whole book.
>>>
>>> There seems to be a small error in the Value Based Dispatch section on 
>>> page 8, where the comments don't match the code. oz and lb seem to be 
>>> flipped!
>>>
>>> (defmulti convert
 "Convert quantity from unit1 to unit2, matching on [unit1 unit2]"
 (fn [unit1 unit2 quantity] [unit1 unit2]))

 ;; lb to oz
 (defmethod convert [:lb :oz] [_ _ oz] (* oz 16))

 ;; oz to lb
 (defmethod convert [:oz :lb] [_ _ lb] (/ lb 16))

>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mohit
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 6:35:05 AM UTC+5:30, Alex Miller wrote:

 Great to hear!
>>>
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Re: [ClojureScript] Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Alex Miller]

There is a ticket to consider a portable solution to this issue:

http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-1293

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 5:45:35 AM UTC-5, David Nolen wrote:
>
> The only reason :default exists is because *anything* in JavaScript can be 
> thrown and there needs to be some way to catch non-Error derived values. 
> This is not the case for Java of course. :default could probably be aliased 
> to Throwable, but in the meantime differences like this are now handleable 
> via conditional reading.
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Robin Heggelund Hansen <
> skinn...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Hmm... In Clojurescript you can do the following
>>
>> (try
>>   ;; throw something
>>   (catch :default e
>>  e))
>>
>> When I try the same thing in Clojure, it seems to not be supported. Is 
>> there any plans to support this syntax in Clojure 1.7?
>>
>>
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Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Alex Miller]

I think what you're seeing here makes sense.

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 3:39:15 PM UTC-5, whodidthis wrote:
>
> Are there any thoughts on code like this:
>
> #_
>

This says to ignore the next read form
 

> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))
>

This evaluates to *nothing*, ie nothing is read, so it is not ignored by 
the #_.
 

> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-2 nil))
> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-3 nil))
>

These also read as *nothing*.
 

> #?(:clj (def n 10))
>

This *is* read, but ignored per the prior #_ 

#?(:clj (defn num [] n))
> ; compile on clj =>RuntimeException: Unable to resolve symbol: n
>

And then this makes sense.
 

>
> I guess it's fine if it continues to work that way but I can imagine it 
> being a little surprising from time to time heh
>

Conditional reading is definitely something to be careful about - I think 
in this case you are combining two types of conditional reading so be 
doubly careful. :) 

To get the effect you want in this, using #_ *inside* the reader 
conditional would work:

#?(:cljs #_(def unrelated-1 nil))

 

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Re: [ANN] Clojure Applied: From Practice to Practitioner

[Nando Breiter]

Alex,

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Alex Miller  wrote:

> Thanks Mohit!
>
> There was a bug around this that I had fixed at one point, perhaps I
> didn't get that change applied. BTW, for future "bugs" on the book, it's
> best to file them here so we can track them:
> https://pragprog.com/titles/vmclojeco/errata
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 1:28:03 AM UTC-5, Mohit Thatte wrote:
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> I read the preview chapters, great read so far. Looking forward to the
>> whole book.
>>
>> There seems to be a small error in the Value Based Dispatch section on
>> page 8, where the comments don't match the code. oz and lb seem to be
>> flipped!
>>
>> (defmulti convert
>>> "Convert quantity from unit1 to unit2, matching on [unit1 unit2]"
>>> (fn [unit1 unit2 quantity] [unit1 unit2]))
>>>
>>> ;; lb to oz
>>> (defmethod convert [:lb :oz] [_ _ oz] (* oz 16))
>>>
>>> ;; oz to lb
>>> (defmethod convert [:oz :lb] [_ _ lb] (/ lb 16))
>>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mohit
>>
>> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 6:35:05 AM UTC+5:30, Alex Miller wrote:
>>>
>>> Great to hear!
>>
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Re: [ANN] Clojure Applied: From Practice to Practitioner

[Alex Miller]

Thanks Mohit!

There was a bug around this that I had fixed at one point, perhaps I didn't 
get that change applied. BTW, for future "bugs" on the book, it's best to 
file them here so we can track 
them: https://pragprog.com/titles/vmclojeco/errata

Alex

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 1:28:03 AM UTC-5, Mohit Thatte wrote:
>
> Alex 
>
> I read the preview chapters, great read so far. Looking forward to the 
> whole book.
>
> There seems to be a small error in the Value Based Dispatch section on 
> page 8, where the comments don't match the code. oz and lb seem to be 
> flipped!
>
> (defmulti convert
>> "Convert quantity from unit1 to unit2, matching on [unit1 unit2]"
>> (fn [unit1 unit2 quantity] [unit1 unit2]))
>>
>> ;; lb to oz
>> (defmethod convert [:lb :oz] [_ _ oz] (* oz 16))
>>
>> ;; oz to lb
>> (defmethod convert [:oz :lb] [_ _ lb] (/ lb 16))
>>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Mohit
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 6:35:05 AM UTC+5:30, Alex Miller wrote:
>>
>> Great to hear!
>
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Re: [ClojureScript] Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Robin Heggelund Hansen]

Ahh ok, makes sense.

mandag 13. april 2015 12.45.35 UTC+2 skrev David Nolen følgende:
>
> The only reason :default exists is because *anything* in JavaScript can be 
> thrown and there needs to be some way to catch non-Error derived values. 
> This is not the case for Java of course. :default could probably be aliased 
> to Throwable, but in the meantime differences like this are now handleable 
> via conditional reading.
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Robin Heggelund Hansen <
> skinn...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Hmm... In Clojurescript you can do the following
>>
>> (try
>>   ;; throw something
>>   (catch :default e
>>  e))
>>
>> When I try the same thing in Clojure, it seems to not be supported. Is 
>> there any plans to support this syntax in Clojure 1.7?
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Re: [ClojureScript] Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[David Nolen]

The only reason :default exists is because *anything* in JavaScript can be
thrown and there needs to be some way to catch non-Error derived values.
This is not the case for Java of course. :default could probably be aliased
to Throwable, but in the meantime differences like this are now handleable
via conditional reading.

David

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> Hmm... In Clojurescript you can do the following
>
> (try
>   ;; throw something
>   (catch :default e
>  e))
>
> When I try the same thing in Clojure, it seems to not be supported. Is
> there any plans to support this syntax in Clojure 1.7?
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Re: [ClojureScript] Re: ANN: ClojureScript 0.0-3196, Conditional Reading, REPLs, and Code Motion

[Leon Grapenthin]

Is there any working ClojureScript NREPL with this latest setup of CLJ 
1.7-beta-1, CLJS3169 and cider-0.9-SNAPSHOT available?

Using weasel-0.6.0-SNAPSHOT with piggieback 0.2.0 gives me a functioning 
REPL but code completion and source jump don't work anymore.

Best regards,
 Leon.

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 11:34:53 AM UTC+2, Georgi Danov wrote:
>
> thanks! 
>
> On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 5:15:06 PM UTC+2, David Nolen wrote: 
> > Yep, the clojure.main option is the one you want. 
> > 
> > 
> > David 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Georgi Danov  
> wrote: 
> > I did read it very carefully several times, but kept trying to use it 
> via remote connection (headbang). 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I got it running using the config "use clojure.main in normal JVM 
> process", is this how it's supposed to be? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Saturday, April 11, 2015 at 4:06:47 PM UTC+2, David Nolen wrote: 
> > 
> > > I was able to connect IntelliJ to a REPL because Cursive can now 
> connect to a ClojureScript REPL started in the usual way. There is no 
> special setup, make sure you've taken the time to read the new 
> ClojureScript Quick Start. 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > HTH, 
> > 
> > > David 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Georgi Danov  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Hi, 
> > 
> > >  I keep having troubles running repl with piggieback and once again I 
> see in the changelog this was improved. I also saw the screenshot in your 
> last tweet which clearly shows intellij can connect. 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >  Can you please share your project set-up? Some sort of sample project 
> that has that up & running would be of great value. 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >  Even when I follow the tutorials I end up in weird exceptions, last 
> one being 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > No implementation of method: :-evaluate of protocol: 
> #'cljs.repl/IJavaScriptEnv found for class: clojure.lang.PersistentArrayMap 
> > 
> > > at 
> clojure.core$_cache_protocol_fn.invoke(core_deftype.clj:554) 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
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Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Robin Heggelund Hansen]

Hmm... In Clojurescript you can do the following

(try
  ;; throw something
  (catch :default e
 e))

When I try the same thing in Clojure, it seems to not be supported. Is 
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Re: Poland - Poznań - i am looking people who are coding in Clojure to share experience

[Krzysztof Władyka]

Thank you for answer. I will contact with him.

On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 7:19:42 AM UTC+2, Tomek Mańko wrote:
>
> If you're from Poznań you might want to reach out to those guys on twitter 
> or something - http://nukomeet.com - they seem to be using Clojure (among 
> others) and have an office in the city.
>
> On Thursday, 9 April 2015 22:33:39 UTC+2, Krzysztof Władyka wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am learning Clojure.
>>
>> I watched Clojure Inside Out, read many atricles, half Programming 
>> Clojure (2nd edition), started reading The Joy of Clojure.
>>
>> I am really fascinate about this technology and idea behind that. I see 
>> it's good choice.
>>
>> *I am looking team / people in Poland - Poznań who are coding in Clojure 
>> to share experience.*
>>
>>
>> PS I have a long experience in business managing, so i can share that 
>> experience also.
>>
>> PS2 I am sorry i am writing about that on this group, but in my country 
>> Clojure is not so popular and we even don't have any group meeting or 
>> something like that. Just i don't have any idea how i can meet this people 
>> in Poznań, this group looks good :)
>>
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Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-beta1 released

[Leon Grapenthin]

Why would that be fine?

On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 10:39:17 PM UTC+2, whodidthis wrote:
> Are there any thoughts on code like this:
> 
> 
> #_#?(:cljs (def unrelated-1 nil))
> 
> 
> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-2 nil))
> 
> 
> #?(:cljs (def unrelated-3 nil))
> 
> 
> #?(:clj (def n 10))
> 
> 
> #?(:clj (defn num [] n))
> ; compile on clj =>RuntimeException: Unable to resolve symbol: n
> 
> 
> I guess it's fine if it continues to work that way but I can imagine it being 
> a little surprising from time to time heh

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[ANN] Dunaj lite, a library-only version of Dunaj

[Jozef Wagner]

Hi all,

I've just released a version 0.4.0 of Dunaj [1], that contains some 
bugfixes and is built on top of Clojure 1.7.0 beta1. Dunaj provides an 
alternative core API for Clojure, introducing a set of core language 
experiments aimed to improve Clojure language and its core API.

Starting from this version, Dunaj now provides a library only version 
called Dunaj lite. The codebase is shared, and Dunaj lite supports nearly 
all of Dunaj’s functionalities. Dunaj lite is ideal for cases where you 
want to evaluate Dunaj in existing projects, or in cases you cannot or 
don’t want to use custom Clojure forks. See Dunaj lite homepage [2] for 
more information. The main differences are:

* bit more verbose and less elegant usage
* small decrease of performance
* no qualified special symbols
* no changes to primitive types

I've also started blogging at [3], where I plan to focus on Dunaj's 
individual features and its usage in real world cases.

Best,
Jozef Wagner

[1] http://www.dunaj.org
[2] http://lite.dunaj.org
[3] http://blog.wagjo.com

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Re: Any chance of a module system being added to the language?

[Colin Yates]

Ok, thanks Mark.
On 13 Apr 2015 06:37, "Mark Derricutt"  wrote:

> On 3 Apr 2015, at 3:14, Colin Yates wrote:
>
> > Do you have any references to OSGi and Clojure?
>
> My fork of clojure.osgi is updated for 1.6 and in Maven Central:
>
> https://github.com/talios/clojure.osgi
>
> and a simple demo:
>
> https://github.com/talios/clojure.osgi.demo
>
> ( read: very very simple ).
>
> We've not really progressed much using clojure.osgi at work really, sadly
> that got lost amongst other commitments.
>
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