Re: [ANN] Korma SQL ported to ClojureCLR

2012-04-10 Thread Aaron
I can comment on what is important to me for the build system.  First, 
being able to embed .clj files in an existing C# project as embedded 
resources (as has been enabled by a couple forks - 
https://github.com/ralmoritz/clojure-clr and my own - 
https://github.com/aaronc/clojure-clr) is extremely useful.  This takes 
care of most of my day to day usage.  For editing, I am actually using 
emacs *inferior-lisp*, however, and just using Visual Studio to embed the 
files into a DLL.  I actually haven't been using vsClojure.

Now, in order to create a library ecosystem for ClojureCLR, I think 
something like leiningen is necessary.  This could simply be a library 
whose job is to make sure that any assemblies that need to be downloaded 
are downloaded (possibly even at runtime) and to call assembly-load for all 
necessary assemblies.  I find it inelegant to call assembly-load* manually 
from my code.  So having a leiningen-like frontend that would be the main 
entry point for all .dll's containing Clojure code (whether that's embedded 
.clj's or AOT-compiled code) would be nice.  We could use a project.clj 
like format with some specific .NET/nuget features like strong names and 
semantic version specifiers.  This project.clj could then be embedded in 
any Clojure library .DLL that is distributed and be used to load transitive 
dependencies for these libraries.  I don't think it would be too hard to 
write this initial dependency loading part of the build tool and it could 
probably be done in such a way that it plays nice with vsClojure projects, 
mixed C#/Clojure projects, and possibly used standalone.


On Saturday, April 7, 2012 11:22:08 AM UTC-4, dmiller wrote:



 On Friday, April 6, 2012 6:23:43 PM UTC-5, Aaron wrote:

 I think it's a goal to get Clojure.dll on nuget soon, but it hasn't 
 happened yet.  Hopefully soon.  Still, we'll need a good build system for 
 ClojureCLR that does everything that lein does.  But, I don't think that 
 should be that complicated if nuget is used as a basis.



 ClojureCLR on nuget is a goal, and one fairly easy to accomplish, in the 
 sense of just packaging the DLLs and getting them posted.  However, the 
 primary use of NuGet is pulling dependencies into projects in Visual 
 Studio.That means spending some time working the vsClojure Visual 
 Studio extension to get all the pieces playing together.

 When people say lein on .net  or good build system for ClojureCLR, is 
 Visual Studio integration usually meant, or is there a standalone 
 experience being coveted?




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Re: [ANN] Korma SQL ported to ClojureCLR

2012-04-07 Thread dmiller


On Friday, April 6, 2012 6:23:43 PM UTC-5, Aaron wrote:

 I think it's a goal to get Clojure.dll on nuget soon, but it hasn't 
 happened yet.  Hopefully soon.  Still, we'll need a good build system for 
 ClojureCLR that does everything that lein does.  But, I don't think that 
 should be that complicated if nuget is used as a basis.



ClojureCLR on nuget is a goal, and one fairly easy to accomplish, in the 
sense of just packaging the DLLs and getting them posted.  However, the 
primary use of NuGet is pulling dependencies into projects in Visual 
Studio.That means spending some time working the vsClojure Visual 
Studio extension to get all the pieces playing together.

When people say lein on .net  or good build system for ClojureCLR, is 
Visual Studio integration usually meant, or is there a standalone 
experience being coveted?


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Re: [ANN] Korma SQL ported to ClojureCLR

2012-04-06 Thread Aaron
I think it's a goal to get Clojure.dll on nuget soon, but it hasn't 
happened yet.  Hopefully soon.  Still, we'll need a good build system for 
ClojureCLR that does everything that lein does.  But, I don't think that 
should be that complicated if nuget is used as a basis.

On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 3:59:56 PM UTC-4, Rick Beerendonk wrote:

 Right now, there is nothing like leiningen for .NET


 Did you take a look at NuGet?
 http://nuget.codeplex.com/
  


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Re: [ANN] Korma SQL ported to ClojureCLR

2012-04-04 Thread Rick Beerendonk


 Right now, there is nothing like leiningen for .NET


Did you take a look at NuGet?
http://nuget.codeplex.com/
 

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[ANN] Korma SQL ported to ClojureCLR

2012-04-03 Thread Aaron
I needed something quick like Korma for my .NET work, so I ported it to 
ClojureCLR.  The code is here: https://github.com/aaronc/Korma.net.  So far 
only MySql is supported.

Right now, there is nothing like leiningen for .NET so no build and 
distribution yet.  Also, most of the code for the JVM version ported over 
unchanged - I mainly had to implement some basic support for ADO.NET.  So, 
potentially a library such as this could be maintained under one source 
tree and some sort of conditional loading could be used depending on which 
implementation of Clojure was executing (JVM, CLR, Python, etc.).  I see 
that a JIRA ticket was opened for this a while ago: 
http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJS-27 and I also found this thread: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/clojure/M9NKAui3Z0Q.  
Any new thoughts as to what the canonical way for supporting multiple 
implementations should be?

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