Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
Preview app on mac allows you to take a picture of your picture and use it on documents. Then you can just open up file, click signature tool and apply, then save and email. On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:48:54 PM UTC-7, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: Cedric Greevey cgre...@gmail.com javascript: writes: It's a definite improvement ... but please print and sign the agreement, then scan and mail? There are a growing number of people that do *everything* online, to the point of not having a printer, not having a scanner, or not having either. Of course, the same people tend to have trouble with the quaint notion that a funny-looking squiggle emitted by pen onto paper is somehow a securer form of authentication than a 128-bit cryptographic signature of a document hash. :) -- Those people may be interested in sites like https://www.hellofax.com/ when faced with needing to print, sign, and scan some paper-trail :P -- Jeremiah Dodds blog : http://jdodds.github.com github : https://github.com/jdodds freenode/skype https://github.com/jdoddsfreenode/skype : exhortatory twitter: kaens -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
I meant to say picture of your signature, yay monday mornings On Monday, April 1, 2013 8:17:43 AM UTC-7, Tyler Gillies wrote: Preview app on mac allows you to take a picture of your picture and use it on documents. Then you can just open up file, click signature tool and apply, then save and email. On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:48:54 PM UTC-7, Jeremiah Dodds wrote: Cedric Greevey cgre...@gmail.com writes: It's a definite improvement ... but please print and sign the agreement, then scan and mail? There are a growing number of people that do *everything* online, to the point of not having a printer, not having a scanner, or not having either. Of course, the same people tend to have trouble with the quaint notion that a funny-looking squiggle emitted by pen onto paper is somehow a securer form of authentication than a 128-bit cryptographic signature of a document hash. :) -- Those people may be interested in sites like https://www.hellofax.com/ when faced with needing to print, sign, and scan some paper-trail :P -- Jeremiah Dodds blog : http://jdodds.github.com github : https://github.com/jdodds freenode/skype https://github.com/jdoddsfreenode/skype : exhortatory twitter: kaens -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.com writes: It's a definite improvement ... but please print and sign the agreement, then scan and mail? There are a growing number of people that do *everything* online, to the point of not having a printer, not having a scanner, or not having either. Of course, the same people tend to have trouble with the quaint notion that a funny-looking squiggle emitted by pen onto paper is somehow a securer form of authentication than a 128-bit cryptographic signature of a document hash. :) -- Those people may be interested in sites like https://www.hellofax.com/ when faced with needing to print, sign, and scan some paper-trail :P -- Jeremiah Dodds blog : http://jdodds.github.com github : https://github.com/jdodds freenode/skype : exhortatory twitter: kaens -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
Hey, sorry for the delay in answering your question Michael. We will definitely be accepting pull requests. In fact, we've already accepted a few minor pulls from community members. I know you've been an outspoken critic of the Clojure contribution process - we understand that pain, and want to do things differently with Pedestal. This means Github for issues and pull-requests, easy-to-submit CAs, etc. Hopefully once we've proven out these more modern workflows we can start to backport them into the Clojure process. I have to ask you this: is there anything we've missed, or do you have any suggestions you'd like implemented in the Pedestal project? - Ryan @ Relevance On Sunday, March 24, 2013 12:30:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Klishin wrote: 2013/3/24 Sean Corfield seanco...@gmail.com javascript: Contributor Agreements were available for signing at Clojure/West so I'm guessing it will be under the same process as Clojure itself... They have electronic CA: http://pedestal.io/#contribute My question is about pull requests, not the CA. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
2013/3/29 Ryan Neufeld r...@thinkrelevance.com This means Github for issues and pull-requests, easy-to-submit CAs, etc. Hopefully once we've proven out these more modern workflows we can start to backport them into the Clojure process. I have to ask you this: is there anything we've missed, or do you have any suggestions you'd like implemented in the Pedestal project? Ryan, This is very good news. One thing I'd like to see is a way for the community to contribute to pedestal.io (the site) using the same process. Thanks to everyone involved in these process improvements for Pedestal. I have doubts that Clojure will ever be developed the same way but it's great to see Pedestal not following the route of Clojure Contrib. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Michael Klishin michael.s.klis...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/29 Ryan Neufeld r...@thinkrelevance.com This means Github for issues and pull-requests, easy-to-submit CAs, etc. Hopefully once we've proven out these more modern workflows we can start to backport them into the Clojure process. I have to ask you this: is there anything we've missed, or do you have any suggestions you'd like implemented in the Pedestal project? Ryan, This is very good news. It's a definite improvement ... but please print and sign the agreement, then scan and mail? There are a growing number of people that do *everything* online, to the point of not having a printer, not having a scanner, or not having either. Of course, the same people tend to have trouble with the quaint notion that a funny-looking squiggle emitted by pen onto paper is somehow a securer form of authentication than a 128-bit cryptographic signature of a document hash. :) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
I definitely hear you - getting pedestal.io open for contributions is a goal of mine too. Maybe I can have a conversation with you about your experience on ClojureWerkz docs? Ryan, This is very good news. One thing I'd like to see is a way for the community to contribute to pedestal.io (the site) using the same process. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
Cedric, I don't own a printer, so I end up making heavy use of http://hellofax.com/ I'd point people there if they want to keep the whole process digital for themselves. Cheers, Paul -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
I spent this weekend getting my head around Pedestal, and am liking a lot it so far. Thanks! Where is the best place to ask for help regarding Pedestal specific issues? From the templates, I created a service and an app, and would now like to hook them up in my development aspect. Considering I have two projects and they want to use different ports (3000 8080), what is the most convenient way to do this? I thought to configure the aspect with :use-api-server? true, like the chat client sample (commit d765b993ed5fa7b5306877f78121916cc731532a), but that gets a 404 Not Found when the dev page redirects to port 8080, so I've not yet seen successful development mode use. Cheers, Si On Friday, March 22, 2013 3:52:07 PM UTC+1, Alex Redinton wrote: Hello! At Relevance, we have been working on a way to build applications delivered over the web for some time, and unveiled our work at Clojure/West. If you missed it, our work is called Pedestal, and while it is still immature and in an alpha state, we've opened it up and are interested in receiving people's feedback. We consider this a solution for delivering applications where most of the interaction happens in the browser, where delivering information to browsers should happen quickly and responsively, and where servers are primarily responsible for processing data, not creating and transmitting presentations. If you'd like to learn more, please visit the project's website at http://pedestal.io To see some sample applications, please checkout and review our sample Git repository hosted at http://github.com/pedestal/samples To start with a new pedestal application, you can do: lein new pedestal-application your app name To start a new pedestal service, you can do: lein new pedestal-service your app name Please let us know what you think! -Alex Redingotn -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
Errr, sorry. I see questions can go to https://groups.google.com/d/forum/pedestal-dev. I'll get on to it after I wake up properly :) On Friday, March 22, 2013 3:52:07 PM UTC+1, Alex Redinton wrote: Hello! At Relevance, we have been working on a way to build applications delivered over the web for some time, and unveiled our work at Clojure/West. If you missed it, our work is called Pedestal, and while it is still immature and in an alpha state, we've opened it up and are interested in receiving people's feedback. We consider this a solution for delivering applications where most of the interaction happens in the browser, where delivering information to browsers should happen quickly and responsively, and where servers are primarily responsible for processing data, not creating and transmitting presentations. If you'd like to learn more, please visit the project's website at http://pedestal.io To see some sample applications, please checkout and review our sample Git repository hosted at http://github.com/pedestal/samples To start with a new pedestal application, you can do: lein new pedestal-application your app name To start a new pedestal service, you can do: lein new pedestal-service your app name Please let us know what you think! -Alex Redingotn -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
Contributor Agreements were available for signing at Clojure/West so I'm guessing it will be under the same process as Clojure itself... On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Michael Klishin michael.s.klis...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/22 Alex Redinton alex.reding...@thinkrelevance.com Please let us know what you think! Will Pedestal accept pull requests? -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
2013/3/24 Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com Contributor Agreements were available for signing at Clojure/West so I'm guessing it will be under the same process as Clojure itself... They have electronic CA: http://pedestal.io/#contribute My question is about pull requests, not the CA. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
Hello! At Relevance, we have been working on a way to build applications delivered over the web for some time, and unveiled our work at Clojure/West. If you missed it, our work is called Pedestal, and while it is still immature and in an alpha state, we've opened it up and are interested in receiving people's feedback. We consider this a solution for delivering applications where most of the interaction happens in the browser, where delivering information to browsers should happen quickly and responsively, and where servers are primarily responsible for processing data, not creating and transmitting presentations. If you'd like to learn more, please visit the project's website at http://pedestal.io To see some sample applications, please checkout and review our sample Git repository hosted at http://github.com/pedestal/samples To start with a new pedestal application, you can do: lein new pedestal-application your app name To start a new pedestal service, you can do: lein new pedestal-service your app name Please let us know what you think! -Alex Redingotn -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
2013/3/22 Alex Redinton alex.reding...@thinkrelevance.com Please let us know what you think! Will Pedestal accept pull requests? -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
hurray! It looks really promising. I would mention the relevance podcast about Pedestalhttp://thinkrelevance.com/blog/2013/03/18/pedestal-podcast-episode-027, it's a really smooth introduction. I started playing with Pedestal, and I particularly appreciate the incremental approach of the getting started docs: In a few minutes it walks through the building of a Pedestal app with : a backend ((micro) service) + frontend (clojurescript) + db (datomic), so we've got everything from the start, that's neat! It looks like Clojure's Pedestal is a game-changer. Denis On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Michael Klishin michael.s.klis...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/22 Alex Redinton alex.reding...@thinkrelevance.com Please let us know what you think! Will Pedestal accept pull requests? -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [ANN] Pedestal Application Framework
Looks very interesting. I'd really love to see a screencast of someone building for example the todomvc app form scratch with this cause I for one couldn't really wrap my head around it. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
