Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
No, it's essentially Emacs + Evil mode + many, many more layers in a great package. Really worth trying, IMHO понедельник, 1 июня 2015 г., 19:11:44 UTC+3 пользователь Colin Yates написал: I recall seeing that from a while ago - weren’t they planning on rewriting emacs effectively? On 1 Jun 2015, at 15:55, Mikhail Malchevskiy malc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs =) понедельник, 1 июня 2015 г., 17:05:35 UTC+3 пользователь Colin Yates написал: Hi Karsten, Unfortunately our clients are primarily windows based and the software is commercial. tmux - that takes me back! I have never forgotten the joy, or found an equivalent on KDE, Gnome, Windows or OSX of a well configured xMonad, I remember reaching for tmux as a substitute when running over ssh … Sigh - those were the days. (all we need now is someone to point out the obvious superiority of emacs over vim for this to ignite into a flame war… oh wait…) On 1 Jun 2015, at 15:00, Karsten Schmidt in...@toxi.co.uk wrote: For smaller deployments, so far I've always had a smooth ride using nginx as reverse proxy and running the uberjar inside tmux. No other special sauce needed, plus you get the benefit of using nginx to serve your static assets (if there're not on a CDN already)... On 1 June 2015 at 14:40, Colin Yates colin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Daniel, I am trying to reduce the required installed software on the client and they can’t access a maven repo from which to download unfortunately. Hence I am looking for a ‘self contained executable’ solution. You are yet-another-exclaimer of Boot; enough people have sung its praises to make it one of the next things I will need to investigate ;). On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:30, Daniel Szmulewicz daniel.s...@gmail.com wrote: Great conversation starter. Many of us had to take down that route. Eventually, we settle on a deployment solution that works for us, and we can move on with dev'ing. I'm sure all the answers are worthy. Please allow me to share my solution to this problem. It may not work for everyone, but it works for me. It can be summarized as follow: Runit supervisor + Boot. More information here: https://github.com/danielsz/boot-runit Note: this is the solution I came up with after experimenting with the strategies outlined in Ryan's blog post. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ Now I do 'boot dev' locally and 'boot prod' on the server (with auxiliary 'boot dev-run' and 'boot prod-run'). Runit is a Unix classic (as in an outstanding example of a particular style), and Boot is quickly becoming a Clojure classic. More examples here: https://github.com/danielsz/system/blob/master/examples/boot/build.boot On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:38:30 PM UTC+3, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Karsten Schmidt
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
I recall seeing that from a while ago - weren’t they planning on rewriting emacs effectively? On 1 Jun 2015, at 15:55, Mikhail Malchevskiy malch...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs =) понедельник, 1 июня 2015 г., 17:05:35 UTC+3 пользователь Colin Yates написал: Hi Karsten, Unfortunately our clients are primarily windows based and the software is commercial. tmux - that takes me back! I have never forgotten the joy, or found an equivalent on KDE, Gnome, Windows or OSX of a well configured xMonad, I remember reaching for tmux as a substitute when running over ssh … Sigh - those were the days. (all we need now is someone to point out the obvious superiority of emacs over vim for this to ignite into a flame war… oh wait…) On 1 Jun 2015, at 15:00, Karsten Schmidt in...@toxi.co.uk javascript: wrote: For smaller deployments, so far I've always had a smooth ride using nginx as reverse proxy and running the uberjar inside tmux. No other special sauce needed, plus you get the benefit of using nginx to serve your static assets (if there're not on a CDN already)... On 1 June 2015 at 14:40, Colin Yates colin...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks Daniel, I am trying to reduce the required installed software on the client and they can’t access a maven repo from which to download unfortunately. Hence I am looking for a ‘self contained executable’ solution. You are yet-another-exclaimer of Boot; enough people have sung its praises to make it one of the next things I will need to investigate ;). On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:30, Daniel Szmulewicz daniel.s...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Great conversation starter. Many of us had to take down that route. Eventually, we settle on a deployment solution that works for us, and we can move on with dev'ing. I'm sure all the answers are worthy. Please allow me to share my solution to this problem. It may not work for everyone, but it works for me. It can be summarized as follow: Runit supervisor + Boot. More information here: https://github.com/danielsz/boot-runit https://github.com/danielsz/boot-runit Note: this is the solution I came up with after experimenting with the strategies outlined in Ryan's blog post. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ Now I do 'boot dev' locally and 'boot prod' on the server (with auxiliary 'boot dev-run' and 'boot prod-run'). Runit is a Unix classic (as in an outstanding example of a particular style), and Boot is quickly becoming a Clojure classic. More examples here: https://github.com/danielsz/system/blob/master/examples/boot/build.boot https://github.com/danielsz/system/blob/master/examples/boot/build.boot On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:38:30 PM UTC+3, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs =) понедельник, 1 июня 2015 г., 17:05:35 UTC+3 пользователь Colin Yates написал: Hi Karsten, Unfortunately our clients are primarily windows based and the software is commercial. tmux - that takes me back! I have never forgotten the joy, or found an equivalent on KDE, Gnome, Windows or OSX of a well configured xMonad, I remember reaching for tmux as a substitute when running over ssh … Sigh - those were the days. (all we need now is someone to point out the obvious superiority of emacs over vim for this to ignite into a flame war… oh wait…) On 1 Jun 2015, at 15:00, Karsten Schmidt in...@toxi.co.uk javascript: wrote: For smaller deployments, so far I've always had a smooth ride using nginx as reverse proxy and running the uberjar inside tmux. No other special sauce needed, plus you get the benefit of using nginx to serve your static assets (if there're not on a CDN already)... On 1 June 2015 at 14:40, Colin Yates colin...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks Daniel, I am trying to reduce the required installed software on the client and they can’t access a maven repo from which to download unfortunately. Hence I am looking for a ‘self contained executable’ solution. You are yet-another-exclaimer of Boot; enough people have sung its praises to make it one of the next things I will need to investigate ;). On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:30, Daniel Szmulewicz daniel.s...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Great conversation starter. Many of us had to take down that route. Eventually, we settle on a deployment solution that works for us, and we can move on with dev'ing. I'm sure all the answers are worthy. Please allow me to share my solution to this problem. It may not work for everyone, but it works for me. It can be summarized as follow: Runit supervisor + Boot. More information here: https://github.com/danielsz/boot-runit Note: this is the solution I came up with after experimenting with the strategies outlined in Ryan's blog post. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ Now I do 'boot dev' locally and 'boot prod' on the server (with auxiliary 'boot dev-run' and 'boot prod-run'). Runit is a Unix classic (as in an outstanding example of a particular style), and Boot is quickly becoming a Clojure classic. More examples here: https://github.com/danielsz/system/blob/master/examples/boot/build.boot On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:38:30 PM UTC+3, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Karsten Schmidt http://postspectacular.com | http://thi.ng | http://toxiclibs.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Great conversation starter. Many of us had to take down that route. Eventually, we settle on a deployment solution that works for us, and we can move on with dev'ing. I'm sure all the answers are worthy. Please allow me to share my solution to this problem. It may not work for everyone, but it works for me. It can be summarized as follow: Runit supervisor + Boot. More information here: https://github.com/danielsz/boot-runit Note: this is the solution I came up with after experimenting with the strategies outlined in Ryan's blog post. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ Now I do 'boot dev' locally and 'boot prod' on the server (with auxiliary 'boot dev-run' and 'boot prod-run'). Runit is a Unix classic (as in an outstanding example of a particular style), and Boot is quickly becoming a Clojure classic. More examples here: https://github.com/danielsz/system/blob/master/examples/boot/build.boot On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:38:30 PM UTC+3, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
For smaller deployments, so far I've always had a smooth ride using nginx as reverse proxy and running the uberjar inside tmux. No other special sauce needed, plus you get the benefit of using nginx to serve your static assets (if there're not on a CDN already)... On 1 June 2015 at 14:40, Colin Yates colin.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Daniel, I am trying to reduce the required installed software on the client and they can’t access a maven repo from which to download unfortunately. Hence I am looking for a ‘self contained executable’ solution. You are yet-another-exclaimer of Boot; enough people have sung its praises to make it one of the next things I will need to investigate ;). On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:30, Daniel Szmulewicz daniel.szmulew...@gmail.com wrote: Great conversation starter. Many of us had to take down that route. Eventually, we settle on a deployment solution that works for us, and we can move on with dev'ing. I'm sure all the answers are worthy. Please allow me to share my solution to this problem. It may not work for everyone, but it works for me. It can be summarized as follow: Runit supervisor + Boot. More information here: https://github.com/danielsz/boot-runit Note: this is the solution I came up with after experimenting with the strategies outlined in Ryan's blog post. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ Now I do 'boot dev' locally and 'boot prod' on the server (with auxiliary 'boot dev-run' and 'boot prod-run'). Runit is a Unix classic (as in an outstanding example of a particular style), and Boot is quickly becoming a Clojure classic. More examples here: https://github.com/danielsz/system/blob/master/examples/boot/build.boot On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:38:30 PM UTC+3, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Karsten Schmidt http://postspectacular.com | http://thi.ng | http://toxiclibs.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Hi Karsten, Unfortunately our clients are primarily windows based and the software is commercial. tmux - that takes me back! I have never forgotten the joy, or found an equivalent on KDE, Gnome, Windows or OSX of a well configured xMonad, I remember reaching for tmux as a substitute when running over ssh … Sigh - those were the days. (all we need now is someone to point out the obvious superiority of emacs over vim for this to ignite into a flame war… oh wait…) On 1 Jun 2015, at 15:00, Karsten Schmidt i...@toxi.co.uk wrote: For smaller deployments, so far I've always had a smooth ride using nginx as reverse proxy and running the uberjar inside tmux. No other special sauce needed, plus you get the benefit of using nginx to serve your static assets (if there're not on a CDN already)... On 1 June 2015 at 14:40, Colin Yates colin.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Daniel, I am trying to reduce the required installed software on the client and they can’t access a maven repo from which to download unfortunately. Hence I am looking for a ‘self contained executable’ solution. You are yet-another-exclaimer of Boot; enough people have sung its praises to make it one of the next things I will need to investigate ;). On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:30, Daniel Szmulewicz daniel.szmulew...@gmail.com wrote: Great conversation starter. Many of us had to take down that route. Eventually, we settle on a deployment solution that works for us, and we can move on with dev'ing. I'm sure all the answers are worthy. Please allow me to share my solution to this problem. It may not work for everyone, but it works for me. It can be summarized as follow: Runit supervisor + Boot. More information here: https://github.com/danielsz/boot-runit Note: this is the solution I came up with after experimenting with the strategies outlined in Ryan's blog post. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ Now I do 'boot dev' locally and 'boot prod' on the server (with auxiliary 'boot dev-run' and 'boot prod-run'). Runit is a Unix classic (as in an outstanding example of a particular style), and Boot is quickly becoming a Clojure classic. More examples here: https://github.com/danielsz/system/blob/master/examples/boot/build.boot On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:38:30 PM UTC+3, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Karsten Schmidt http://postspectacular.com | http://thi.ng | http://toxiclibs.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Thanks Daniel, I am trying to reduce the required installed software on the client and they can’t access a maven repo from which to download unfortunately. Hence I am looking for a ‘self contained executable’ solution. You are yet-another-exclaimer of Boot; enough people have sung its praises to make it one of the next things I will need to investigate ;). On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:30, Daniel Szmulewicz daniel.szmulew...@gmail.com wrote: Great conversation starter. Many of us had to take down that route. Eventually, we settle on a deployment solution that works for us, and we can move on with dev'ing. I'm sure all the answers are worthy. Please allow me to share my solution to this problem. It may not work for everyone, but it works for me. It can be summarized as follow: Runit supervisor + Boot. More information here: https://github.com/danielsz/boot-runit Note: this is the solution I came up with after experimenting with the strategies outlined in Ryan's blog post. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ Now I do 'boot dev' locally and 'boot prod' on the server (with auxiliary 'boot dev-run' and 'boot prod-run'). Runit is a Unix classic (as in an outstanding example of a particular style), and Boot is quickly becoming a Clojure classic. More examples here: https://github.com/danielsz/system/blob/master/examples/boot/build.boot On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 2:38:30 PM UTC+3, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
I like it when someone says 'do not do this' without some supporting cost/benefit rationale. My next question is why not ? I'll add my own salt here: - Daemonizing does not alter business logic, it can be kept separate using more than one entry point - Supervisory functions are not as generic as some may think. You may have a need to support extra stuff in daemon mode that may/may not be offered by your platform supervisor - Portability might be an issue which is easier to deal with within the JVM than having to cope with different platform specific supervisors As to the why not, I am eager to see them. In general your mileage will vary depending on your needs. This is the real answer to many of the 'do not do this' so named 'rules'. Luc P. Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2015, at 08:02, piastkra...@gmail.com wrote: Stuart, about the JSVC, I am curious if you have an opinion about the argument made in the comments of this blog post: Great post, but in reality you should never write app that daemonize them self. Always use supervisors that your system provides. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 3:53:24 AM UTC-4, Stuart Sierra wrote: JSVC (Apache Commons daemon for Unix) is excellent for this sort of thing. There's a Windows Services version too. –S On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:38:30 PM UTC+1, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Stuart, about the JSVC, I am curious if you have an opinion about the argument made in the comments of this blog post: Great post, but in reality you should never write app that daemonize them self. Always use supervisors that your system provides. http://www.rkn.io/2014/02/06/clojure-cookbook-daemons/ On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 3:53:24 AM UTC-4, Stuart Sierra wrote: JSVC (Apache Commons daemon for Unix) is excellent for this sort of thing. There's a Windows Services version too. –S On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:38:30 PM UTC+1, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
JSVC (Apache Commons daemon for Unix) is excellent for this sort of thing. There's a Windows Services version too. –S On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:38:30 PM UTC+1, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Thanks Stuart. On 27 May 2015, at 08:53, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com wrote: JSVC (Apache Commons daemon for Unix) is excellent for this sort of thing. There's a Windows Services version too. –S On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:38:30 PM UTC+1, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
I use procrun as a service wrapper on Windows. https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/procrun.html It is configured by the command-line used to install it, and generally works with little fuss. I use InnoSetup to create a windows installer. For the runtime class path, I just use something like, java -cp conf;myuberjar.jar mypackage.main On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Colin Yates colin.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Thanks for those links David. On 26 May 2015 at 14:06, David Powell djpow...@djpowell.net wrote: I use procrun as a service wrapper on Windows. https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/procrun.html It is configured by the command-line used to install it, and generally works with little fuss. I use InnoSetup to create a windows installer. For the runtime class path, I just use something like, java -cp conf;myuberjar.jar mypackage.main On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Colin Yates colin.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
I'm doing some of those things at work (http-kit, logback+slf4j+MDC+clojure.tools.logging, config via property files). My entry point (main) is a Java class that reads properties file, sets system properties to hoist logging config variables, then uses reflection to load other Java/Clojure initializers that may be referring to SLF4j in some fashion. We're yet to settle on a way to run Java JAR as a system service, but we are looking at http://supervisord.org/ and https://mmonit.com/wiki/Monit/FAQ Shantanu On Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:08:30 UTC+5:30, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
We were using http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com/doc/english/download.jsp for deploying uberjars as a service under linux (AWS), and were quite satisfied with it. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Shantanu Kumar kumar.shant...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing some of those things at work (http-kit, logback+slf4j+MDC+clojure.tools.logging, config via property files). My entry point (main) is a Java class that reads properties file, sets system properties to hoist logging config variables, then uses reflection to load other Java/Clojure initializers that may be referring to SLF4j in some fashion. We're yet to settle on a way to run Java JAR as a system service, but we are looking at http://supervisord.org/ and https://mmonit.com/wiki/Monit/FAQ Shantanu On Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:08:30 UTC+5:30, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Thanks all for your excellent tips - keep it coming :). On 26 May 2015, at 15:57, Henrik Lundahl henrik.lund...@gmail.com wrote: Hi For Logback you can set a system property (logback.configurationFile) that points to the location of your logback.xml. See http://logback.qos.ch/manual/configuration.html http://logback.qos.ch/manual/configuration.html. BR -- Henrik On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Colin Yates colin.ya...@gmail.com mailto:colin.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com mailto:clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
http://circus.readthedocs.org/en/0.11.1/ We are using it not only for deploy java, also: python and nodejs applications. Is a generc process monitor in a userspace with good comand line interface, with web interface, ... and works pretty well! Andrey On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Jozef Wagner jozef.wag...@gmail.com wrote: We were using http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com/doc/english/download.jsp for deploying uberjars as a service under linux (AWS), and were quite satisfied with it. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Shantanu Kumar kumar.shant...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing some of those things at work (http-kit, logback+slf4j+MDC+clojure.tools.logging, config via property files). My entry point (main) is a Java class that reads properties file, sets system properties to hoist logging config variables, then uses reflection to load other Java/Clojure initializers that may be referring to SLF4j in some fashion. We're yet to settle on a way to run Java JAR as a system service, but we are looking at http://supervisord.org/ and https://mmonit.com/wiki/Monit/FAQ Shantanu On Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:08:30 UTC+5:30, Colin Yates wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Andrey Antukh - Андрей Антух - n...@niwi.nz http://www.niwi.nz https://github.com/niwinz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Advice when running java -jar rather than a managed server like tomcat?
Hi For Logback you can set a system property (logback.configurationFile) that points to the location of your logback.xml. See http://logback.qos.ch/manual/configuration.html. BR -- Henrik On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Colin Yates colin.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am venturing into new territory using http-kit, as I usually use a 'managed' web server container like tomcat and have a few questions about packing and running a JAR file: - are there are convenient service wrappers for windows and/or Linux - any best practice around managing class path for things like logback.xml I have a jar created from lein uberjar and java -jar the.jar works, but this seems a long way away from automated deployment :). Any advice welcome - thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
