Re: Simple Made Easy - Any Examples?
I think it's probably harder to actually show 'best practice' in a lisp than say a language like java. The notion of a design pattern can always be abstracted away with functions or macros. So, the examples I've seen so far are very small scale, eg: use lazy seqs and function composition instead of loop/recur, that kind of thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Simple Made Easy - Any Examples?
Look at the sources for ClojureScript, Ring, Clache. David On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:23 PM, aboy021 arthur.bo...@gmail.com wrote: I very much enjoyed Rich's talk on Simple Made Easy (http:// www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy). It seemed to address a great many of the frustrations I have in software development and offer real hope of being able to do things better. The things is, it would be really nice to have some code that exemplifies the approaches the were talked about. I've seen posts on this group before as well as on StackOverflow talking about the need for an example application in Clojure of medium size that shows off best practice, and I echo that desire. Perhaps just an html page based on slide 25 of Rich's talk: The Simplicity Toolkit with columns labeled Construct and Get it via The page could have links on the Get it via... side to pages with more detail and examples. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Simple Made Easy - Any Examples?
For me personally the main areas that Rich cited that I've not found good examples for are Rules, Set Functions, and Queues. In particular moving the rules out sounds like a great idea. I'll have a look at the projects that David suggested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Simple Made Easy - Any Examples?
If you want to improve then you will need to invest time understanding core development concepts. You don't want to accidentally do the right thing because your language pushes you in that direction. Instead, you want to purposefully do the right thing by having a good understanding of the fundamentals (e.g. scope, state, composition, etc.). You want to arrive, by yourself, to many of the same conclusions as Rich. Testing was my route to understanding development at a deeper level. Growing Object Oriented Software Guided by Tests is, in my opinion, one of the best software development books out there. The authors, Steve Freeman and Nat Pryce, will show you how to decompose, simplify, and analyze your code by probing it with tests. They cover a wealth of topics including composition, context independence, values, design, unit testing, acceptance testing, and more. They also provide an extensive working example to give you insight into their thought processes, practices, and to show you how to apply the concepts. This book is a great starting point for developers looking to get to the next level. In the end, you're just going to have to get your hands dirty and tackle these ideas head on. Check out that book, practice, push yourself, ask yourself a lot of questions, try things, learn from mistakes, don't be satisified or complacent, and, after awhile, you'll find that you can give talks like Rich. =P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Simple Made Easy - Any Examples?
I very much enjoyed Rich's talk on Simple Made Easy (http:// www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy). It seemed to address a great many of the frustrations I have in software development and offer real hope of being able to do things better. The things is, it would be really nice to have some code that exemplifies the approaches the were talked about. I've seen posts on this group before as well as on StackOverflow talking about the need for an example application in Clojure of medium size that shows off best practice, and I echo that desire. Perhaps just an html page based on slide 25 of Rich's talk: The Simplicity Toolkit with columns labeled Construct and Get it via The page could have links on the Get it via... side to pages with more detail and examples. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
