Re: [Marketing] Feedback needed on Fedora 25 announcements

2016-11-10 Thread Dusty Mabe


On 11/10/2016 12:01 PM, Brian Proffitt wrote:
> Dusty: 
> 
> Added your changes. in them, you mentioned a "yum/rpm environment". Should 
> that be "dnf/rpm"?
> 

Yep! Thanks
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[atomic-wg] Issue #176 `status of kubernetes on fedora atomic 25`

2016-11-10 Thread Giuseppe Scrivano

gscrivano added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
There are already two system containers for etcd and flannel, already available 
on Docker hub as gscrivano/etcd and gscrivano/flannel.  I'll move them to 
Fedora as soon as you tell me how to proceed for doing that.   There is no 
system container for Kubernetes yet, so we will need to run it in Docker
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Re: [Marketing] Feedback needed on Fedora 25 announcements

2016-11-10 Thread Dusty Mabe

I reviewed the announcement and would like to suggest some changes:

https://gist.github.com/dustymabe/e308d1f549e4df55d3a902d271b4cf48/revisions?short_path=7002345#diff-700234571b092630ce68dcd5a3da6529

Also, the press release seems to still reference 24. Are we updating
that?



On 11/02/2016 09:33 AM, Brian Proffitt wrote:
> All:
> 
> To prepare for the anticipated release of Fedora 25, we have started the 
> process of drafting the Fedora 25 release announcement and press release.
> 
> The release announcement[1] needs the most input. I have based it on the 
> Fedora 25 beta release announcement and will be going through the document 
> today to clean up any obvious beta mentions. Members of each workgroup should 
> focus on:
> 
> * Additional features to highlight that were not in the beta announcement
> * Important stories that you think this announcement should be telling
> * Particular focus on the change from "Cloud" to "Atomic."
> 
> The press release is templated from the Fedora 24 press release[2] and will 
> be revised based on the release announcement. 
> 
> Therefore, the priority is on the release announcement, and feedback should 
> be given to that document by close of business (2100 UTC) November 7, 2016.
> 
> Thank you,
> Brian Proffitt
> 
> 
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[atomic-wg] Issue #176 `status of kubernetes on fedora atomic 25`

2016-11-10 Thread Daniel J Walsh

dwalsh added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
I have asked Giuseppe Scrivano  to move forward on system 
containers to implement kubernetes workflow on atomic host.  He currently has 
most of services available as system containers and is moving them into 
github.com/projectatomic/atomic-system-containers

We need to get these containers built for Fedora 25.

He even has an experimental system container that runs docker in it.
``

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[atomic-wg] Issue #176 `status of kubernetes on fedora atomic 25`

2016-11-10 Thread Jason Brooks

jasonbrooks added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
> 
> There's a kube 1.4.5 in koji for fc26 
> (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=816481), and I've asked 
> Jan about making it available for fedora 25.
> 
> Can you keep us in the loop here on the progress of this one?

Will do
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Re: Blogs for F25 release

2016-11-10 Thread Dusty Mabe


On 11/09/2016 05:45 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> On 11/09/2016 09:43 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>> I believe we need to communicate a few things for F25:
>>
>> 1 - overlayfs - what it is, how to enable it in the various f25 images we 
>> release
>> 2 - containerized k8s - no longer in atomic host so we have to show people 
>> how to use it
>>
>> I am already planning to write the first blog post. Any volunteers for the 
>> 2nd one.
> 
> I was planning to write out "how to install KubeAdm on Atomic"; is that
> what you're looking for?
> 

See jason's comments on this email chain. I think we need to coordinate on this 
and come up with a recommended way to set things up.

https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/176

Dusty
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Re: Blogs for F25 release

2016-11-10 Thread Dusty Mabe


On 11/10/2016 05:09 AM, Jason Brooks wrote:
> I summed up the state of kube on f25 in this issue:
> https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/176

Wow! That is an excellent, very detailed, issue.

Thanks Jason!
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[atomic-wg] Issue #176 `status of kubernetes on fedora atomic 25`

2016-11-10 Thread Dusty Mabe

dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``

> There's a kube 1.4.5 in koji for fc26 
> (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=816481), and I've asked 
> Jan about making it available for fedora 25.

Can you keep us in the loop here on the progress of this one? 
``

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Re: Blogs for F25 release

2016-11-10 Thread Daniel J Walsh


On 11/10/2016 08:47 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>
> On 11/10/2016 06:12 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>
>> On 11/09/2016 12:43 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>>> I believe we need to communicate a few things for F25:
>>>
>>> 1 - overlayfs - what it is, how to enable it in the various f25 images we 
>>> release
>>> 2 - containerized k8s - no longer in atomic host so we have to show people 
>>> how to use it
>>>
>>> I am already planning to write the first blog post. Any volunteers for the 
>>> 2nd one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any more blogs that need to go out? 
>>>
>>> Dusty 
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>> I also plan on writing a security blog on OverlayFS with SELinux on
>> Fedora 25.
> Sounds good. You can focus on security and I can focus on showing
> people how to set it up out of the box.
>
> Dusty
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Great.
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Re: Blogs for F25 release

2016-11-10 Thread Daniel J Walsh


On 11/09/2016 12:43 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
> I believe we need to communicate a few things for F25:
>
> 1 - overlayfs - what it is, how to enable it in the various f25 images we 
> release
> 2 - containerized k8s - no longer in atomic host so we have to show people 
> how to use it
>
> I am already planning to write the first blog post. Any volunteers for the 
> 2nd one.
>
>
> Any more blogs that need to go out? 
>
> Dusty 
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I also plan on writing a security blog on OverlayFS with SELinux on
Fedora 25.
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Re: Blogs for F25 release

2016-11-10 Thread Jason Brooks
I summed up the state of kube on f25 in this issue:
https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/176

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Josh Berkus  wrote:
> On 11/09/2016 09:43 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>> I believe we need to communicate a few things for F25:
>>
>> 1 - overlayfs - what it is, how to enable it in the various f25 images we 
>> release
>> 2 - containerized k8s - no longer in atomic host so we have to show people 
>> how to use it
>>
>> I am already planning to write the first blog post. Any volunteers for the 
>> 2nd one.
>
> I was planning to write out "how to install KubeAdm on Atomic"; is that
> what you're looking for?
>
>
> --
> --
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> Project Atomic
> Red Hat OSAS
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[atomic-wg] Issue #176 `status of kubernetes on fedora atomic 25`

2016-11-10 Thread Jason Brooks

jasonbrooks reported a new issue against the project: `atomic-wg` that you are 
following:
``
We removed kubernetes, etcd, flannel, gluster and ceph from the atomic host for 
Fedora 25: 
https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic/c/219c9bb26426811a5f32188c59682ad70c3283e5?branch=f25

The idea is that these pkgs can/should be run as docker containers or system 
containers. I wrote a post about running kube in containers on CentOS Atomic, 
but things work the same for Fedora Atomic: 
http://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2016/09/running-kubernetes-in-containers-on-atomic/

However, we don't currently have fedora containers for kubernetes. There's a 
year-old PR for this: 
https://github.com/fedora-cloud/Fedora-Dockerfiles/pull/112. I used this PR as 
the basis for kube containers for CentOS: 
https://github.com/CentOS/CentOS-Dockerfiles/tree/master/kubernetes. 

Another option is using package layering to install the removed rpms if 
desired: 
http://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2016/07/hacking-and-extending-atomic-host/. 
This works, mostly, but the kube-apiserver that comes with kubernetes-master is 
granted CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE so it can use port 443, and package layering won't 
support this: https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree/issues/462.

Whether we install kubernetes via package layering or containers, another issue 
is that the kube we have for fedora 25 is very old, 1.2, and current is 1.4.5. 
There's a kube 1.4.5 in koji for fc26 
(http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=816481), and I've asked 
Jan about making it available for fedora 25. I built it for f25 and el7 in this 
copr: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jasonbrooks/kubernetes/.

kubeadm (http://kubernetes.io/docs/getting-started-guides/kubeadm/) is a slick 
way to run an up-to-date kube cluster, and the kubernetes project offers rpms 
for kubeadm, but the kubernetes-cni package they provide doesn't work with 
atomic. I made a patched package in a copr for f25 and el7 
(https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jasonbrooks/kube-release/) and wrote 
about it here: 
https://jebpages.com/2016/11/01/installing-kubernetes-on-centos-atomic-host-with-kubeadm/.
 The rpm grabs the binaries from the upstream project, if fedora were to 
provide this package, we'd probably want to build the binaries ourselves. 
kubeadm runs kubernetes and etcd in containers, and these containers aren't 
fedora-based, and they come from upstream. They appear to be based on busybox. 
Also, kubeadm is considered alpha at this point.

We should:

* try to move to a more recent kubernetes version
* get kubernetes containers in place for fedora
* get fedora versions of the flannel and etcd system containers in place
* document how to install kubernetes and how to use package layering on fedora
* look further into kubeadm 

``

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