Re: cloud-init debug output
On 09/11/2014 01:36 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: Hi all, I wrote a post[1] about finding the debug output of cloud-init on systemd based systems. TL;DR.. If you find yourself trying to debug cloud-init and you find that /var/log/cloud-init.log and /var/log/messages are lacking then run: journalctl /usr/bin/cloud-init This is probably obvious to some but to others may be useful. Hey - this is awesome. Just FYI, we're always looking for more content on Fedora Magazine. This would totally fit the bill there, too. (Yes, even short tech tips are fine - doesn't have to be a novel!) Thanks, will also tweet this... Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Adding Mesos to Base Fedora.Atomic Image
On 09/10/2014 08:30 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:21:15PM -0400, Tim St Clair wrote: I was wondering what the process is for trying to add Mesos (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheMesos) to the base Atomic image? If anyone has ideas or could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated. So, we're trying to basically follow the upstream Atomic specification and have what they say in the image. I don't think that this would be a problem in theory, since it's not huge. (But if we're not getting clear answers from the upstream I guess we can experiment!) So - there's not currently an upstream definition, yet. I *suspect* that Mesos will be there, eventually. My proposal: +1 for including Mesos for now. I'll start a conversation on atomic-devel about setting a here's a base package set expectation for Atomic. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Regrets (Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup)
On 09/10/2014 12:00 PM, hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2014-09-12 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net Hey all, Just an FYI - I have an appointment Friday and won't be able to make this week's meeting. I will try to send a summary to the list of what I've accomplished this week, and update any tickets that I'm tending. Any volunteers to chair the meeting? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Regrets (Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup)
On 09/10/2014 02:24 PM, Haïkel wrote: I could chair this week meeting. Awesome, thanks! I'll owe you a $beverage. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fedora Atomic / Infrastructure check-in minutes for 9 September 2014
=== #atomic Meeting === Meeting started by jzb at 20:04:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/atomic/2014-09-09/atomic.2014-09-09-20.04.log.html . Meeting summary --- * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildbranched and https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildrawhide (nirik, 20:11:12) * note, we are producing Atomic images regularly in test composes, not yet in nightlies (stickster, 20:13:06) * Help is needed patching the compose scripts! (stickster, 20:16:16) * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/run-pungi (stickster, 20:16:44) * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildbranched (stickster, 20:16:49) * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildrawhide (stickster, 20:16:55) * metalink XML, mirroring (walters, 20:20:10) * http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=576104 should support metalinks and has a new summary file (stickster, 20:21:07) * ACTION: oddshocks work on adding Atomic to releng scripts (jzb, 20:41:49) * open floor (jzb, 20:50:35) Meeting ended at 21:01:41 UTC. Action Items * oddshocks work on adding Atomic to releng scripts Action Items, by person --- * oddshocks * oddshocks work on adding Atomic to releng scripts * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * jzb (48) * walters (42) * stickster (25) * nirik (18) * dustymabe (15) * oddshocks (10) * zodbot (7) * roshi (2) * number80 (1) * dgilmore (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fwd: Fedora 21 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, September 04 @ 17:00 UTC
FYI Original Message Subject: Fedora 21 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, September 04 @ 17:00 UTC Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 09:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com Reply-To: logist...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org, test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org,Fedora Logistics List logist...@lists.fedoraproject.org Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2 for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Fedora 21 Alpha. Thursday, September 04, 2014 17:00 UTC (1 PM EDT, 10 AM PDT, 19:00 CEST) Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting. Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team. Release Candidate (RC) availability and good QA coverage are prerequisites for the Go/No-Go meeting. For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 21 Alpha Blocker list: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/21/alpha/buglist Jaroslav ___ logistics mailing list logist...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Status of docker image(s)?
Hi Vaclav, There's been some uncertainty about the status of the Fedora 21 docker image. More specifically, some uncertainty about which working group owns the image and seeing it to completion for Fedora 21. Per Dennis today in #fedora-cloud, I think the base WG is running with this, but he said to check in with you. So - is this officially with the base WG now, and is there anything cross-over we should be tracking/doing in the cloud WG? [See also the Trac ticket for Fedora Cloud WG: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/65] Thanks! jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fedora Cloud (Atomic) Infra meeting 26 August 2014
Apologies for being tardy in sending this out. === #atomic Meeting === Meeting started by jzb at 20:09:50 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/atomic/2014-08-26/atomic.2014-08-26-20.09.log.html . Meeting summary --- * F21 composes (jzb, 20:10:17) * looks like there is a TC4 for Atomic (jzb, 20:10:42) * LINK: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/21-Alpha-TC4/Cloud/Images/x86_64/ (jzb, 20:10:47) * ACTION: nirik when we have a viable Atomic TC nirik will make sure it's announced. (jzb, 20:13:44) * ACTION: jzb once we have a viable Atomic TC jzb will try to arrange a test day (jzb, 20:14:12) * ACTION: jzb research test case possibilities for Atomic (jzb, 20:21:00) * any new business? (jzb, 20:24:35) Meeting ended at 20:29:20 UTC. Action Items * nirik when we have a viable Atomic TC nirik will make sure it's announced. * jzb once we have a viable Atomic TC jzb will try to arrange a test day * jzb research test case possibilities for Atomic Action Items, by person --- * jzb * jzb once we have a viable Atomic TC jzb will try to arrange a test day * jzb research test case possibilities for Atomic * nirik * nirik when we have a viable Atomic TC nirik will make sure it's announced. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * jzb (37) * dustymabe (11) * nirik (10) * stickster (4) * zodbot (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fwd: F21 Alpha Change Freeze
FYI Original Message Subject: F21 Alpha Change Freeze Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:47:02 -0500 From: Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us Reply-To: de...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org Hi all, As the Fedora 21 schedule[1] states the Alpha change freeze is upon us and we have a confidence in delivering RC composes. As we are now at the change freeze bodhi will be enabled for f21 tomorrow morning US Time. It means all builds will now need an update created and as we are at Alpha freeze only accepted exceptions[2] will be allowed in. we are at the pre beta stage of release, so the Pre-beta[3] stage of the updates policy applies Regards Dennis [1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-devel-tasks.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Pre_Beta ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Regrets to today's meeting
Hi all, At LinuxCon Chicago this week, will not be able to make today's IRC meeting. I did send the RFC to the cloud list for updates to the Docker images, have had some offline feedback, but need more. No travel after this week until the second or third week of October, so I expect to be getting a lot more items cleared during that time. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fwd: Atomic / Infrastructure Meeting minutes -- 2014-08-19 UTC 2000
FYI - minutes from today's meeting with Fedora infrastructure to get Fedora Atomic images produced in Fedora infra. Original Message Subject: Atomic / Infrastructure Meeting minutes -- 2014-08-19 UTC 2000 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:53:32 -0400 From: Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com Reply-To: Fedora Infrastructure infrastruct...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: infrastruct...@lists.fedoraproject.org Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-19/fedora-meeting.2014-08-19-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-19/fedora-meeting.2014-08-19-20.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-19/fedora-meeting.2014-08-19-20.00.log.html == #fedora-meeting: Atomic/Infrastructure == Meeting started by stickster at 20:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-19/fedora-meeting.2014-08-19-20.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * jzb is traveling to LinuxCon so stickster is subbing for him (stickster, 20:02:23) * Status check (stickster, 20:02:29) * Alt composes of rawhide blocked on Atomic generating and deploying new images -- in progress (stickster, 20:04:40) * MirrorManager/metalinks (stickster, 20:06:51) * walters made progress on metalink implementation, ready to test once content is sync'd to mirrors and metalink.xml is generated -- need to make sure this works in MM2 later as well. (stickster, 20:08:36) * oddshocks in new hire orientation 18-19 Aug, then relocating to SEA but should be online afternoon/evening-ish while traveling (stickster, 20:13:16) * ACTION: stickster remind oddshocks to read log and check in on-list (stickster, 20:14:28) * rel-eng compose (stickster, 20:18:31) * dgilmore has sorted out producing cloud images \o/ (stickster, 20:20:32) * ACTION: dgilmore test installation of an atomic tree (stickster, 20:21:11) * jzb tested the installer ISO posted to atomic-devel earlier, fwiw (stickster, 20:22:25) * AGREED: atomic code will support a separate inline .signed copy of the summary file (stickster, 20:32:58) * ACTION: dgilmore produce .signed file as needed (stickster, 20:33:22) * ACTION: walters support .signed file as agreed (stickster, 20:33:41) * AOB - All other business (stickster, 20:36:50) * LINK: http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Paris2014 (misc, 20:38:29) * ACTION: jzb Next meeting - discuss Rawhide status (stickster, 20:38:52) * ACTION: dgilmore examine ISO creation script in https://lists.projectatomic.io/projectatomic-archives/atomic/2014-July/msg2.html (stickster, 20:45:40) * ACTION: walters check out pungi at https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/pungi.git (stickster, 20:45:56) * AGREED: sync at next meeting to see how ISO creation could be handled in pungi (stickster, 20:46:16) Meeting ended at 20:47:35 UTC. Action Items * stickster remind oddshocks to read log and check in on-list * dgilmore test installation of an atomic tree * dgilmore produce .signed file as needed * walters support .signed file as agreed * jzb Next meeting - discuss Rawhide status * dgilmore examine ISO creation script in https://lists.projectatomic.io/projectatomic-archives/atomic/2014-July/msg2.html * walters check out pungi at https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/pungi.git Action Items, by person --- * dgilmore * dgilmore test installation of an atomic tree * dgilmore produce .signed file as needed * dgilmore examine ISO creation script in https://lists.projectatomic.io/projectatomic-archives/atomic/2014-July/msg2.html * jzb * jzb Next meeting - discuss Rawhide status * stickster * stickster remind oddshocks to read log and check in on-list * walters * walters support .signed file as agreed * walters check out pungi at https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/pungi.git * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * stickster (60) * walters (33) * dgilmore (17) * jzb (13) * zodbot (9) * nirik (6) * agrimm (6) * misc (4) * dustymabe (3) * number80 (2) * pingou (2) * jbrooks (2) * geppetto (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com ___ infrastructure mailing list infrastruct...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb
Fwd: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Atomic / Infrastructure Meeting
FYI - also of interest. - Forwarded Message - From: j...@fedoraproject.org To: infrastruct...@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:00:02 PM Subject: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Atomic / Infrastructure Meeting Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Atomic / Infrastructure Meeting on 2014-08-19 from 20:00:00 to 20:30:00 UTC The meeting will be about: Meeting to work on infrastructure pieces required for building Fedora Atomic images. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/738/ ___ infrastructure mailing list infrastruct...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RFC: Process to determine when docker images need to be rebuilt
Hi all, OK, first cut of an policy for rebuilding docker images. Note that I'm only starting from the base image and not the slew of docker images that build on it. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Cloud_RFC_Docker_Trusted_Images_Rebuild_Policy I expect some modifications, but I hope this at least starts the discussion on the right foot and isn't too far off the mark. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Cloud WG mission statement
On 08/06/2014 06:37 PM, Haïkel wrote: Heya, Apparently we're the only WG that hadn't a short and nice mission statement. That appeared during Christoph talk on advocating Fedora.Next at Flock. Either we have one and should update the WG page update to reflect it or make one. Matthew made one on the spot, by using the pets vs cattle metaphor and it is probably something we should build upon. Bonus point if someone can do an illustration for our shiny new mission statement ;) I'm almost 100% we worked on a mission statement around the time the marketing group was starting on the separate products last year. I can't seem to find it now, but IIRC there was discussion during meetings in IRC then approval on the mailing list. There was a deadline for marketing and it was entered in a ticket, I believe. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: fedora.next joint session at flock
On 08/01/2014 10:13 AM, Haïkel wrote: Since I'll be one of the few non-redhatter of our group there, I don't mind to step in. Works for me. Can we have a sync session at some point before this? (We == Cloud WG folks at Flock.) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup
On 07/25/2014 07:11 AM, Haïkel wrote: I don't know why the reminder was sent with the wrong time :/ For the record, meeting will be hold at this hours @ 17:00 UTC / 13:00 Eastern / 12:00 Central / 10:00 Pacific Thanks for the correction. Have fixed the entry in Fedocal, so it should go out w/the proper time from now on. Please poke me if it turns up with the wrong time again. btw, I will be missing this week meeting. As will I, flying back from Portland today. Best, Joe -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Cockpit in Cloud images?
On 07/23/2014 01:12 PM, Colin Walters wrote: (This still leaves open the topic of Cockpit in the mainline Cloud) You mean the regular vanilla cloud images for AWS, etc.? I don't know that we'd need Cockpit in those, would we? Thoughts? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Cockpit in Cloud images?
On 07/24/2014 10:38 AM, Haïkel wrote: At this stage, Cockpit brings no value to regular cloud images. Cloud users rather use the API and console provided by their providers or regular tools. That was my thinking, but wasn't sure if I was missing something. Beside that goes against the effort of trimming down cloud images Also - the normal cloud images *can* be updated to include Cockpit later if someone wants to have Cockpit in their AMI or whatever, yeah? So - I think we're agreed on that? Any -1's to omitting Cockpit? Thanks, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
VOTE RESULT Re: VOTE! (bumping Re: New and better meeting time!?)
Closing the poll. From the looks, the best time is: Fridays @ 17:00 UTC / 13:00 Eastern / 12:00 Central / 10:00 Pacific Best, jzb On 07/14/2014 12:56 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: On 07/11/2014 10:18 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: The Thursday morning meeting is not working so well for some of our schedules. (Particularly mine, alas, as I have a new weekly meeting that's unavoidable.) The next two weeks are a bit hairy as well w/travel, but I hope we can find a time that works well for everybody... http://doodle.com/ui9ny8qruudigq7i Only a few folks have voted, and definitely not all the voting members of the workgroup. Please take a minute to vote today. Will close the poll Tuesday morning around 9 a.m. Eastern. Best, jzb ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
VOTE! (bumping Re: New and better meeting time!?)
On 07/11/2014 10:18 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: The Thursday morning meeting is not working so well for some of our schedules. (Particularly mine, alas, as I have a new weekly meeting that's unavoidable.) The next two weeks are a bit hairy as well w/travel, but I hope we can find a time that works well for everybody... http://doodle.com/ui9ny8qruudigq7i Only a few folks have voted, and definitely not all the voting members of the workgroup. Please take a minute to vote today. Will close the poll Tuesday morning around 9 a.m. Eastern. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: New Cloud WG member approval: Andy Grimm
- Original Message - From: Haïkel hgue...@fedoraproject.org So we need to get consent from the remaining Cloud WG voting members to get Andy onboard. I suggest we use Apache lazy consensus rule: +1 (approve) +0 (no opinion, but okay) -1 (disapprove) and if there's no -1 before the next meeting, and we reached quorum by then, Andy will be joining us. +1 (binding) (I'm a big fan of the lazy consensus model...) -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
New and better meeting time!?
Hey all, The Thursday morning meeting is not working so well for some of our schedules. (Particularly mine, alas, as I have a new weekly meeting that's unavoidable.) The next two weeks are a bit hairy as well w/travel, but I hope we can find a time that works well for everybody... http://doodle.com/ui9ny8qruudigq7i Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Meeting Time?
Hey all, So - we have a meeting scheduled tomorrow at 9 a.m. Central (or 14:00:00 to 15:00:00 UTC for those of you not fortunate enough to live in St. Louis...). I'm concerned about the timing because: - It's the day before a U.S. holiday and a lot of folks tend to take time off early. - I have a conflicting 9 a.m. meeting, and I suspect one or two other folks also do. - Attendance has been pretty light in general. I suspect we do need to talk about changes freeze, though? That's coming up on 8 July. Thoughts? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Taking a break or whatever - action needed, I guess
On 07/01/2014 08:19 AM, Sandro red Mathys wrote: Now, I don't think the (WG's) idea has ever been that the owners are supposed to do all (or really any of?) the work so I hope I didn't block things, but since I haven't noticed any work on those tasks I thought I should finally give a long overdue heads-up about my situation so people can act accordingly. Thanks for this, truly! I take all the blame that needs taking for things not delivered/-able on time, etc. and offer my apologies to everyone who feels left down by my irresponsible behavior. I, for one, don't agree with your description here. I appreciate your work, and hope you find time to come back / continue being involved to the best of your ability. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: proposal: Fedora Cloud Experimental image/spin?
On 06/02/2014 08:48 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: also I think we should publish new isos every month for desktop That's probably a discussion for the Workstation WG / another list that isn't cloud@. We won't be deciding that here. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: proposal: Fedora Cloud Experimental image/spin?
On 06/02/2014 08:43 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: What do you think? +1 Does this need to be a spin or just here's where we put the nightlies and some associated information about them? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Chair for tomorrow's meeting?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, I believe Fedocal sent out the reminder, but I was hoping to see if anyone could step up to chair the IRC meeting tomorrow. I'm going to be around for the first bit of the meeting, but will have to step out early. Thanks! jzb - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTdA6nAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUrwMIAO0jUf8OHbDgPnQVt6vv8t+R PRux/5Q2nG+0RcoYxJKXGCHhzjMhvJcBQooVH+r4X+ysXuTQavd0rGiC9w9jwxoR Fx2OWu0snNsPjuAr/p5yZ5ohwjcxlxJVIj/bhn42WtD9+9du0xYUO9/tl6osPqNW lz8TFeKVDoL3+LD1zWfZ8sHxNpgJTKv6fBpVTHyjUSFnfisitO94N1Gpv5oZ/Pke pSQ0YXj29wY30DS1d+skAYEosH7HSIoL6sl5xExL6YaYufjNF3HrjDEfDpv7I1dZ /bXMOYmTk6o5RMvLHGR/+wQ7u0waAvO7w6/YzCM5mQHB/IxEtvwYqYCMSX5jKic= =JeVy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fedora Cloud Meeting Minutes 5 May 2014
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to everyone who showed up participated today. Minutes below... === #fedora-meeting Meeting === Meeting started by jzb at 14:02:32 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-05-08/fedora-meeting.2014-05-08-14.02.log.html . Meeting summary - --- * start communication/collaboration on cloud image updates (jzb, 14:07:04) * https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/51 (jzb, 14:07:12) * yum/dnf rpm-ostree (jzb, 14:12:30) * http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-maint/2014-April/003682.html (jzb, 14:15:50) * ACTION: mattdm create All the Things ticket (components needed for image) (jzb, 14:30:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/54 (mattdm, 14:33:40) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/55 (mattdm, 14:35:52) * I made two tickets, one for the atomic list and one for generic (mattdm, 14:36:30) * ACTION: mattdm to make high-level ticket covering issues with shipping ostree trees... this will fork into qa and releng and mirror conversations (mattdm, 14:50:13) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/56 (mattdm, 14:55:56) * tracking ticket for conversations around shipping ostree... trees. (mattdm, 14:56:24) * HELP: that ticket -- needs help. please add yourself to cc if interested. (mattdm, 14:56:45) * ACTION: jzb Solicit folks who want to volunteer for the WG (jzb, 15:10:45) Meeting ended at 15:14:50 UTC. Action Items - * mattdm create All the Things ticket (components needed for image) * mattdm to make high-level ticket covering issues with shipping ostree trees... this will fork into qa and releng and mirror conversations * jzb Solicit folks who want to volunteer for the WG Action Items, by person - --- * jzb * jzb Solicit folks who want to volunteer for the WG * mattdm * mattdm create All the Things ticket (components needed for image) * mattdm to make high-level ticket covering issues with shipping ostree trees... this will fork into qa and releng and mirror conversations * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --- * mattdm (83) * jzb (60) * walters (47) * red_trela (26) * dgilmore (23) * geppetto (16) * roshi (13) * zodbot (12) * samkottler (11) * jwb (11) * jeid64 (8) * scollier (3) * mhayden (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTa8quAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUdn4H/3pdCbMS9w6Ilw54+kkR1kkZ AhYUrQfxo0J/r0lnVP+CLQdfVG/+1UYHhskcfYSes1hQr5u9Ep28uu8LxympA0kO djuVa1qMybdr+T6dITrgrRnC4AlCo0fZH88toGDSoddkKruuFOV7I/UwgVMj0Fx7 ukb0eRF+nERkGnirNUvPtsAU4p7XEDYXoDcF5t9IVoMQxH4GaVRAnO+HTewzXb6S EmDzexLGAMl76r1C6IBlHz1aF4jEjr3oa7AkWwtkO8+YQGdctbNQdOd6z/pXvAz9 /wYZzjgdW6S1YFTDtmo/DxjDa8so4WnoDjG2PKAhBatrIAVcs2HX6y8UJr7pUH8= =9Ljd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Fedora Cloud Workgroup Meeting Minutes 01 May 2014
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2014 10:23 AM, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Mike Ruckman ro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: * Crucial basic Docket Host Image decisions (jzb, 08:07:23) * https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/47 (jzb, 08:07:36) * AGREED: fedora atomic docker-specific image will not include yum/dnf (mattdm, 08:15:47) OK, but with rpm-ostree I'd like to highlight that it does already link to libhawkey and rpm, which are the same C libraries underlying dnf. This is important preparatory work for package layering. That said, has anyone built a list of blockers/issues they see? I have made a good amount of progress on Anaconda, and I'm pretty confident of delivery by next month. Any chance you can make it to tomorrow's meeting? We might have more questions that you are uniquely qualified to help us sort out. * AGREED: try min-metadata-service for fedora atomic image for alpha, fall back to cloud-init for beta if it doesn't work out (mattdm, 08:29:56) I'm interested in this as well, although I don't see it as so critical. Investing in thinning down cloud-init is also likely viable. * AGREED: aim for getting python out of the fedora atomic image too, if all of the previous things line up. (mattdm, 08:34:36) One issue I see here is that there are a lot of valid reasons to want Python on the host for configuration management type tasks, and the answer to this is to still support local package layering on top of a base tree. I'm relatively confident I can have basic package layering by Alpha. Great! Best, jzb - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTajUSAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUkc0H/j4FbzBPYXohtPrWOUQ1iJ6k cM/rwqQkk0qQ4zHjGkDblQ7GWNfzalLIaJ96bye20+JuEHZvmFIVzTXNJ0MILCiD ONSl0eEKN8/vSiIxK9UaUgyOOkxaqCqlpC579zAQVP9tSK7y2LNY9EZxgUh1PcDl P4M42GgY0R9ED15gyltqCDQRo4mAqZqO2M2rNHkVYQZsSPE9B4XCMAVmjLBsEI0Y fm+ztw6nvgUTkcXg80d3/v9/QM6lOAmtrSZAcJJd7GrwNKW+EIi3n0kzepfAQ6Tm s9Dj/z+D3CvvUfAaHBoSVnba9EUpAwVHLQBLEdLebkrz8pyMZnXTQtJCz+RKXPY= =OLOg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Fedora Cloud Working Group Six Month Check-in
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just bumping this, as only two or three people have responded. (I am in, btw.) On 04/24/2014 11:48 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Hi all, According to our governance charter[1] the working group's nine voting members are supposed to confirm their continued membership every six months. If I'm not mistaken, the current membership was established mid-October last year - which puts us due about now. Here's the current membership: James Antill Robyn Bergeron Joe Brockmeier Haïkel Guémar Sam Kottler Sandro Mathys Matthew Miller (FESCo Liaison) Frankie Onuonga Mattias Runge If you're interested in continuing membership, could you please confirm by the next IRC meeting on Thursday next week? Alternatively, if anyone would like to step down this is a good time to do so. This is members with a binding vote on any decisions that need to be voted on - anyone, of course, is welcome and encouraged to participate in cloud WG activities, meetings, etc. Best, jzb [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Governance - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTYRzZAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzU70oH/RgMbetCshtUz1Uy84J1qOJ+ v4WmJFl0YcZS/EOxUGrr8j13md8EtlPOjPozkYxJ1QG2+TWjELllP4oTRRFgvni6 DukU1sKeNAFOY/5Vk/Cn2uwXEEk4CD4o8Qnyg0TuquuJVhOCDH4z7hkZOmO4TdYl HisPP1gTkhcJV9olbmY6SmSPCICy0+v6NzXFXDtALS77BmwAv7GnWewZ88fzoGzT AlnpM5ayLtOkEbqCXiV7DVoiQtO/cLbmT0yRJJ7HAg35ZyoQnHNDfATuGfbI8GJ4 P4PgbFEFrhRSogTcXdBB+hC/UYmFr+YbwZoO5e1M1UFGawHqreICBIsR2YGpthM= =TrSK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Weekly Meeting Thursday @ 14:00 UTC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reminder, we have an IRC meeting tomorrow at 14:00 UTC. Please join us in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. A list of items to discuss can be found in Trac: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/query?keywords=~meetingstatus=!closed Also, action items from last week: * number80 to take lead on Ticket #23 (https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/23) * jzb to follow up on Ticket 45, will herd cats until we come to a conclusion on it. * roshi to send note to the list for review of his QA draft If you have new items to add to the agenda, please send them to the list or speak up during new business tomorrow. Best, jzb - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTYUx+AAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUVUIH/iW3TD8EiwDF4cg0ILslDTpk IXhprntlhphHjDE6RKy3F5YjHX3b075bLXU7Hr7HYQaxdH6zx+ISwSuMnMYhWgAf kOd7jfDMgjHIsAFgzQLlaSBoUD2C8CJJxPQmSfeARisLsPbCm/U6z8cqn40zRctE uHuAV5jPlo7AUKqCICUPdgvNd/+LW9JQwRmfobGBq/rqbzgt6+JJtZ+N4L5hJn9u YWrRVqPr8Zfz1YalDCTP/u6nl7bR0b9oYVjwFZhEddzclvMpnyzxTnbmX7u2C6jr iz/fjKISvCDIsq4Euo234nrHvpBB/wa4G7/QyERLSglT4McBx8vaars9mGqgHC8= =NdF/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fedora Cloud Workgroup Meeting Minutes 24 April 2014
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 === #fedora-meeting Meeting === Meeting started by jzb at 14:08:17 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-04-24/fedora-meeting.2014-04-24-14.08.log.html . Meeting summary - --- * roll call (jzb, 14:08:26) * Meeting tickets (jzb, 14:10:06) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/query?keywords=~meetingstatus=!closed (jzb, 14:10:12) * rename cloud spin kickstart to distinguish the cloud base image (jzb, 14:11:14) * https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/16 (jzb, 14:11:48) * File F22 change: Re-factor cloud-init (jzb, 14:19:24) * https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/23 (jzb, 14:20:36) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/coreos-cloudinit (red_trela, 14:26:08) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ (jzb, 14:27:22) * ACTION: number80 to take lead on Ticket #23 (https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/23) (jzb, 14:30:52) * Ticket #45 need three packages added to the fedora21 cloud image (jzb, 14:31:28) * ACTION: jzb to follow up on Ticket 45, will herd cats until we come to a conclusion on it. (jzb, 14:49:27) * Project Atomic and Fedora Docker Host Image (jzb, 14:50:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/46 (jzb, 14:50:41) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/41 (roshi, 15:05:02) * ACTION: roshi to send note to the list for review of his QA draft (jzb, 15:06:59) Meeting ended at 15:14:27 UTC. Action Items - * number80 to take lead on Ticket #23 (https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/23) * jzb to follow up on Ticket 45, will herd cats until we come to a conclusion on it. * roshi to send note to the list for review of his QA draft Action Items, by person - --- * jzb * jzb to follow up on Ticket 45, will herd cats until we come to a conclusion on it. * number80 * number80 to take lead on Ticket #23 (https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/23) * roshi * roshi to send note to the list for review of his QA draft * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --- * jzb (101) * red_trela (40) * number80 (36) * mattdm (25) * roshi (22) * frankieonuonga (17) * geppetto (12) * erjohnso (6) * zodbot (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTWTuhAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUYS8IALn7fdfRdqzMGYTJ9F1Euz1X 8Cq4aC5CgaHRwqG/WveU2w4QRUrrQrUOiTyJeZ6FwH3tjk8SNJBlBiy4DcrTk9qn WsYeZIfw2zpziE7hUcKfdjTsH1RiPiaujIE6oys5BPaBiy3JURi2W4CmS7yY7uEL 4YQSZ8/oGE72L1GIioGnoi0uq1qtrCl0FfMsi0dLaRoaNQ5+VEHR+LSWbcTOFx7R 2WFS6hJ9O+cJICdUJCFfzAbVQXvXSNcEHUa6V7y3a2SEfdLXOn4RmprFVpWf3lkq IPlW3h9qcoAlBB4mCjWnWQh7QVmuvsfYXee+CDvW1gnN+lm2Y9T0BTuDJ3IUi5I= =4HvG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fedora Cloud Working Group Six Month Check-in
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, According to our governance charter[1] the working group's nine voting members are supposed to confirm their continued membership every six months. If I'm not mistaken, the current membership was established mid-October last year - which puts us due about now. Here's the current membership: James Antill Robyn Bergeron Joe Brockmeier Haïkel Guémar Sam Kottler Sandro Mathys Matthew Miller (FESCo Liaison) Frankie Onuonga Mattias Runge If you're interested in continuing membership, could you please confirm by the next IRC meeting on Thursday next week? Alternatively, if anyone would like to step down this is a good time to do so. This is members with a binding vote on any decisions that need to be voted on - anyone, of course, is welcome and encouraged to participate in cloud WG activities, meetings, etc. Best, jzb [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Governance - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTWUBWAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUwtwH/01Jhqa1WvMws6AosR5m8DO/ zlhA+zG1qzSw1q30B41e2qAvsihJMYAB88S7QRL2qJBsRdFz2d0BSnptryY7vIma 6MEViPOkDVyslarAzsGpU8aZk5mldg8TGpum59JrwannXp5AoxqRxfX1Ik29mgyS cLWL3p+3l+VA5SgkvzPNtvhah90RPhUHTGa/r3TU+vC4vJkxT8MXyF0i+xXR/7pV uljMYs1RlH7n2jdW9Q7X44mznm5+ooSyu2kP/XW+2sjO8TH3jKrWL+zvMUw77cfw 4fH+xiC9Qlg9NTABZ8UEB4B3jzvZTZPQbZDxTVFHImwGVqqF014as1rfKNYRpvs= =/hvZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Meeting Reminder: Tomorrow 14:00 UTC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Reminder, we have an IRC meeting tomorrow at 14:00 UTC. Working Group members are CC'ed - hope we can get a quorum tomorrow. Please join us in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. A list of items to discuss can be found in Trac: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/query?keywords=~meetingstatus=!closed If you have new items to add to the agenda, please send them to the list or speak up during new business tomorrow. Best, jzb - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTWAtEAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUV4IH/0+QC54dPXkOwUgARk69h5mR OoeXBBzzbUyrAxT70GZIKov7e837manGa8/cBLJ25GtZz4p41Moj2McCNlcH4hmY Lt1+d1trqjwqJr78LgeMu3cRZ3il7oZZrVyXw2ovzcMP4/01ljJBCRbg8pCPb5Ep EJ63zdeYDatvTqo7oXrySuQb92rqVp02WGXKhGDnW9G9pS9AyBWVkoNkC9rIKp5I veC149pmSj2JhXZmLmGXuGIo7uYX5DjZlGovVkUnPcxQ/+uWa8DySuuAKYb5Vhso tOT+DrWKn/93nQdr44JHXBVLGNphMwxihBocJR4TtcWaX2AskGSmuYUePA+zvxg= =WRCZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Thursday Meeting?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/21/2014 06:03 PM, Sandro red Mathys wrote: Heads-up: I just went ahead and closed two tickets (#24 and #29) that I think were done, just so we don't have to spend meeting time cycles on them. Awesome, thanks! jzb - -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTVmNpAAoJEKbW5zOgIHzUFg0IAJMNDlkKkG59osj2RF6buDBs zgOmYws+C+wfrj94jJhAEpokCU5FUV5tUs1Z2Ib6P+9k8AsYiuLRqxNSPGm8Mue4 wHpjCsDnACZMd6qSVyLoepuQHsvAeZ5vbVLcf3SltNsbeMT9i4HY6ZVZsWsXEyjx 2yuUCm6Gh7lHLUap7fQ0uFL4WwkZjzJpqIIHPaiCub9+TqR84Uh976JN+YHHERum RcRuZtRybCq0EVC0tbolU8BJV4pM4CGZbsCXodUoeNReIshbD1a4PxoPSDWomY5Y A79H/ih2C94qPMZ9KRj2NZf5yOjXS0B6XKG4dsW+jqyys1UC+yLX+Xj8XcEWHO4= =WX9p -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: easyfix tasks [was Re: self introduction]
On 03/21/2014 06:51 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Alternately, I might start breaking these down into trac tickets. Does that sound valuable to anyone? For that matter, if anyone _else_ wants to take the list and start working on moving it item by item to https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/, that itself might qualify as a (somewhat boring but practically helpful) easyfix. If we want to go with Trac vs. Cantas, I can do that. Alternately, I can probably throw up a Cantas board on OpenShift, but I am not sure about integrating it with FAS authentication. Also, Trac is set up to email to the list, yes? Can we do that with Cantas? If not, wouldn't we prefer something that also pings the list? (I have many questions. Sorry.) Anyway - if we want to go w/Trac tickets, I can do that this weekend. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: who will be at flock?
On 03/21/2014 07:52 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 05:42:49PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: Apparently registration and talk submission is _now_ http://flocktofedora.org/ Who is planning on going? Thinking about giving a talk? Yes to both. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Also -- meeting keyword for agenda items
On 03/21/2014 09:35 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Also, I suggest that we start using trac for meeting items as FESCo does -- add the meeting keyword if you want something to be at that week's meeting. This will save the meeting wrangler (i.e., Joe) some repetative call for items? posts. +1 -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Agenda items?
On 03/18/2014 04:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:18:31PM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Apologies for the tardiness of this - any agenda items for Thursday's meeting? I think things are proceeding pretty well on the mailing list. We _do_ need to get our change proposals filed. Maybe skip the meeting this week, though, if no one has items. I hate to lose momentum, but I also hate directionless meetings. :) Any objections? I am OK with skipping a week if everyone else is. -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Reminder + Agenda for Next WG Meeting (new time) on 13 March 2014
Hi all, As promised, here's the agenda and info: Meeting time: 14:00 UTC To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto Or run: date -d '2014-03-13 14:00 UTC' Meeting channel: #fedora-meeting = Agenda = == Old Topics == * Status of Cantas board for tracking? == New Topics == * Discussion of replacing cloud-init with min-metadata-service as default or other alternatives * Also consider CoreOS cloud-init * Do we want to (try and) kick out Python on the Docker Host image? This would *require* both replacing cloud-init by min-metadata-service and yum by ostree. * Do we want the Docker Host image to use ostree (as kinda yum/dnf replacement)? * How can we get the community more involved in our efforts? Changes need owners. * Open Floor Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
New meeting time + call for agenda items
Hi all, OK, the votes are in and it looks like the least-bad time for meetings right now are 14:00 UTC on Thursdays. I think we were missing a few votes, though, so I hope this time will work for the most people. Please send me any agenda items by Monday afternoon and I will send out a meeting reminder then. Thanks, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]
On 03/06/2014 10:42 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:39:01PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote: It _could_ be as simple as just shipping with docker and maybe etcd, but we could make some other changes too. For example, we could drop cloud-init and just have a minimal metadata service. Not sure we want to use different metadata client services for different cloud images, though. Happy to hear more opinions on it, though. It sure is a promising new tool. I am half-minded to make the proposal that we drop cloud-init. We haven't built up a big library of cloud-init examples for Fedora, and once https://github.com/cgwalters/min-metadata-service/issues/2 is implemented, we can focus on doing so as simple shell scripts. Most cloud-init examples I've seen using the cloud-config syntax end up not being very cross-platform anyway. How would this go over for people coming from $other_images that have cloud-init and expect to use it? If I understand correctly, you're saying their existing stuff isn't going to work well w/Fedora even if we have cloud-init, but I wonder if not having it is going to be seen as a negative? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]
On 03/06/2014 12:51 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:58:04AM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote: I am half-minded to make the proposal that we drop cloud-init. We haven't built up a big library of cloud-init examples for Fedora, and once https://github.com/cgwalters/min-metadata-service/issues/2 is implemented, we can focus on doing so as simple shell scripts. Most cloud-init examples I've seen using the cloud-config syntax end up not being very cross-platform anyway. How would this go over for people coming from $other_images that have cloud-init and expect to use it? If I understand correctly, you're saying their existing stuff isn't going to work well w/Fedora even if we have cloud-init, but I wonder if not having it is going to be seen as a negative? That's why I'm only half-minded. But yes, I am saying that. The more I think about it, having a tailored image with cloud-init might be the way to go -- then we can measure and see how much it is used in comparison. Alternately, here's a crazy idea: the min-metadata service could detect if userdata is in a syntax it doesn't understand and fire off a helper script. That helper script could then install and exec cloud-init. That sounds like it could be potentially breaky/complicated. (I could be wrong.) My gut would be to go with the tailored image and see if it gets used, as the messaging issue concerns me. We could phase the image out in a release or two if it isn't picked up. -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
New Meeting Time?
Hey all, We have not had a quorum at the last few meetings, so perhaps we need to change the meeting time? Please pick a time here that works well for you: http://whenisgood.net/bz5phag (Note, we'll reset the time for weekly meetings for this.) Thanks, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Reminder + agenda for tomorrow's (3/5/2014) WG meeting
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the cloud WG meeting Wednesday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2014-2-19 17:00 UTC' I haven't received any agenda items from the list, so here's what I have so far: = Agenda = * Roll call / ask for quorum == Old Business == * Cloud Changelist - Discuss owners for work for F21 * Status of To-Do List * Status of GCE work * Status of Cantas board for tracking work == New Business == ? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Agenda items for Wednesday meeting?
Hey all, Any agenda items for this week's meeting before I send out the reminder/agenda? Thanks, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
REMINDER: Friday Activity Day for Cloud Changes List (28 February 2014 @ 17:00 UTC)
(This starts in about 45 minutes...) Howdy all, We have a deadline looming for 3 March 2014 to get our technical specification / changes list together for FESCo. Current brainstorming: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_Changelist We need to organize, prioritize, and format as actual changes for FESCo. Let's start at the usual meeting time (17:00 UTC) and go until we're done or can't go any more. We can do this in the #fedora-cloud channel on Freenode. Any questions, comments, flames? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fwd: PRDs/Tech Specs to formal Change Proposals and Change submission deadline
FYI Original Message Subject: PRDs/Tech Specs to formal Change Proposals and Change submission deadline Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 05:32:14 -0500 (EST) From: Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com Reply-To: ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org, ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org,Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop desk...@lists.fedoraproject.org,Fedora Environment and Stacks Working Group mailing list env-and-sta...@lists.fedoraproject.org Hi, at yesterday's FESCo meeting, it was agreed on setting deadlines for Change submission for Fedora 21 [1] and to process PRDs into Change proposals. AGREED: Fedora Changes Process submission deadline for system-wide changes is April 7th. Deadline for true standalone changes will be sometime later than that. Changes to how fedora is produced for fedora.next are still due on March 3rd. (+7,0,0) (nirik, 18:29:42) Current deadlines: * March 3rd: Technical Specifications for products and changes needed for products and deliverables --- very soon! * April 7th: System Wide Changes submission deadline Working Groups teams, please, try to transform required changes for your products from PRDs/Technical Specifications into standalone Change proposals (between March 3rd and April 7th). It will help us to scope the release. Also all changes would be trackable the standard way we do it and it's going to help transparency (as Change announcements are being to be part of the process). Self Contained Changes submission deadline will be set later, after the System Wide deadline. If you expect your proposed Self Contained Change will be on the edge and could be escalated to the System Wide, please try to submit it as early as possible too. As some Fedora.next details will be clarified later in the process, System Wide Changes submitted after the deadline will be approved case by case, even after submission deadline. For the details about the Change process, see my previous email to the devel announce list [2]. Thank you for your help with Change process and let me know in case of any questions. Jaroslav [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1178 [2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2014-February/001304.html ___ server mailing list ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/server -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Minutes from today's (26 February 2014) Cloud WG Meeting
== #fedora-meeting-1: cloud WG weekly meeting == Meeting started by jzb at 17:01:42 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-02-26/fedora-meeting-1.2014-02-26-17.01.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Status on Cloud To-Do list (jzb, 17:04:59) * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Cloud_ToDo (jzb, 17:05:12) * ACTION: mattdm ping about getting a Cantas board set up. (jzb, 17:06:26) * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_Changelist (mattdm, 17:07:32) * ACTION: jzb send call for activity day Friday. (jzb, 17:10:19) * Technical Specification Sample: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification (jzb, 17:11:56) * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Cloud_ToDo#technical_specifications (mattdm, 17:12:53) * New Business (jzb, 17:15:54) * ACTION: mattdm to ping zooz about GCE status, connect up with Google people (mattdm, 17:17:08) * mattdm also working on hp cloud and amazon marketplace internally (mattdm, 17:17:41) Meeting ended at 17:19:22 UTC. Action Items * mattdm ping about getting a Cantas board set up. * jzb send call for activity day Friday. * mattdm to ping zooz about GCE status, connect up with Google people Action Items, by person --- * jzb * jzb send call for activity day Friday. * mattdm * mattdm ping about getting a Cantas board set up. * mattdm to ping zooz about GCE status, connect up with Google people * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * mattdm (37) * jzb (35) * zodbot (5) * geppetto (1) * samkottler (0) * rbergeron (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Friday Activity Day for Cloud Changes List (28 February 2014 @ 17:00 UTC)
Howdy all, We have a deadline looming for 3 March 2014 to get our technical specification / changes list together for FESCo. Current brainstorming: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_Changelist We need to organize, prioritize, and format as actual changes for FESCo. Let's start at the usual meeting time (17:00 UTC) and go until we're done or can't go any more. We can do this in the #fedora-cloud channel on Freenode. Any questions, comments, flames? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Fwd: Re: Fedora Server PRD Draft and call for participation
FYI - we had a bit of interaction on the cloud/server responsibilities, etc. yesterday, it might be worthwhile for the cloud WG folks to take a minute and look this over and make sure we also understand what the server WG has here. Original Message Subject: Re: Fedora Server PRD Draft and call for participation Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:21:07 -0500 From: Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com Reply-To: ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org On 01/10/2014 03:05 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: The first deliverable that the Fedora Server Working Group was tasked with was the production of a Product Requirements Document. This document is intended to provide a high-level view of the goals and primary deliverables of the Fedora Server distribution. A great deal of discussion has gone on during the weekly Working Group meetings as well as on the mailing list. At this time, the deadline for the delivery of the PRD is rapidly approaching. Originally it was due to be delivered for ratification on Monday, January 13th, but at the FESCo meeting on Wednesday, it was agreed to delay this deadline by a single week. The primary reason for this delay was so that the Fedora Cloud and Fedora Server groups could have some last discussions about overlap and respective areas of responsibility. This past Tuesday, we had an all-day PRD hackfest in IRC and have come up with a fairly strong draft[1]. It is not yet complete (notably, there remains a FIXME under Misc. Concerns and some ambiguity around the Use Cases), but I believe that it is close enough to its final form (as envisioned by those people that have contributed to it), that we should expose this document to the wider world and ask for input before submitting it to the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee and Fedora Advisory Board a week from Monday. Please read through the PRD draft and provide feedback of any sort. If you see that we have missed or misrepresented any of our statements, we would very much like to hear this soon. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Server/Product_Requirements_Document_Draft The draft document has been updated with all changes proposed at the Working Group meeting yesterday and is now presumed to be effectively complete. I respectfully request that all members of the Server Working Group (CCed) respond with an approval vote, or if they feel something requires changing, please describe it in detail. Given that we must submit this to FESCo and the Board by Monday, I am setting a hard deadline on Friday at 1600 UTC for votes. ___ server mailing list ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/server -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
PRD Hackfest on 8 January 2014
Hi all, Per the discussion during today's IRC meeting, we have a lot of work left to do on the PRD and not tons of time to finish it in. Rather than asking folks to spend holiday time slogging through it, it'd probably be beneficial to try to organize a hackfest to do this together and just get it done. Due date for the PRD is ~ 13 January 2014, so let's meet before that. I'm proposing 8 January 2014 - that's a Wednesday. My suggestion is to start at 14:00 UTC and run through our meeting time, ending at 18:00 UTC. That should be enough time to wrap things up, or at least put us in a position where it only needs a bit of polish before submitting the PRD. Will also ping the server group to see if they want to run a concurrent hackfest - that way, if we have any questions or need to collaborate between groups, we'll all be available around the same time. Thoughts, comments, flames? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: live images import the rpm gpg key -- should we do this too?
On 12/05/2013 12:54 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: This bug came to my attention from the go/no-go meeting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023178 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/spin-kickstarts.git/commit/?id=32e066e039d130698396c2435f15db7232e47e06 Do we want to do this too? (I kind of think so.) +1 Yes. -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: blurb for web site
On 12/04/2013 08:55 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: The web team asked me to come up with a blurb for a slide on http://fedoraproject.org/. Something like: Cloud Computing with Fedora Fedora's guest image makes the perfect foundation for your fast-moving cloud project. Available in EC and other public cloud providers, and for download in qcow2 and raw.xz formats for your private cloud. Learn More A few minor edits/suggestions... Cloud Computing with Fedora The Fedora Project provides images for public and private clouds that provide a perfect foundation for fast-moving cloud projects. Fedora is available on Amazon EC2 and other public cloud providers. For private clouds, you can download Fedora in a format suitable for OpenStack, CloudStack, and Eucalyptus. # # # Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Relationship with Fedora Server Workgroup
Since we deferred this to the mailing list during the meeting, I'm starting the thread here on the list... So... let's discuss. :-) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Reminder + topics for tomorrow's (11/27/2013) cloud WG meeting
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 05:29:04PM -0500, Sam Kottler wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the cloud WG meeting Wednesday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. I know tomorrow is a busy travel day in the US due to the Thanksgiving holiday on Thursday, but hopefully we'll have a solid group in attendance. Additionally, we're working on finding a better time going forward, but the meeting tomorrow is still at 17:00 UTC. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2013-11-27 17:00 UTC' = Followups = * GCE legal and packaging updates * Fedora.next product branding If you haven't, please read this thread to provide feedback so we can wrap this up today + provide feedback in time. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2013-November/002980.html * Put together a team/plan to work on the PRD = New business = No new agenda items, but please bring up any topics you've got. The server group has created a blog to track their activities, which I thought was a splendid idea: So I stole it. :-) http://fedora-cloud.dissociatedpress.net/ I can take point on blogging our meeting notes, etc. but if anyone else wants to put things up, I'm happy to create an account on the blog for you. Will also be getting this aggregated to Planet Fedora. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Fedora.next Product Branding for Cloud
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 09:10:15PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi folks, With the creation of 3 products for Fedora, the Fedora Design Team anticipates many new questions around Fedora's brand. As the main caretakers of the Fedora brand, we're going to have to figure these things out within the next few months. For example, the Design Team is starting to think about how to answer these types of questions: • Should each product have its own logo? or Yes. • Can you add our product to the Fedora website? or • Can you make our product its own website? (How should we represent these products on the website? Should we allow products to have their own separate websites?) That's a good question. Maintaining a separate Web site is a fair amount of work, but *might* be worth it. I lean towards trying to keep the projects/products all on the same site, though. To start off the rebranding discussion, the Fedora Design Team has 4 basic questions for each of the 3 product-focused working groups to answer: Taking a crack at these, so we have something to start with: (1) What problem does your product solve, in one sentence? Fedora Cloud provides a customizable base image and tools for developing scale out applications on public and private clouds. (2) Who is the target audience for your product, in one sentence? Developers creating scale out applications on top of public and private clouds. (3) List at least 5 products that successfully target the same target audience you are after. * On public cloud (AWS) various AMIs (Amazon, CentOS, Ubuntu) that are popular. * BitNami images on public + private clouds. * PaaS offerings (Heroku, Engine Yard, OpenShift) * Docker * Windows Azure (Not sure how successfully...) (4) List at least 5 products that try to solve the same problem. * Docker * Various AMIs * SUSE Studio * Ubuntu * CentOS We are reaching out to each group individually to ask that you discuss these questions and come back to us with answers by Wednesday, December 4, 2013. I was hoping you could answer these questions for the cloud product; please let me know if this isn't a reasonable timeline or if you need any help coming up with the answers! I think we can respond by December 4th, if not sooner. Thoughts, comments, flames? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Meeting time going forward
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:57:05AM -0500, Sam Kottler wrote: I'd like to set a more permanent meeting time so we don't have to do a whenisgood each week and handle coordination. Using the last two weeks as a guide, it seems like an early evening time in UTC, somewhere between 17:00 and 20:00, on Wednesday works well for people. Does anyone have any conflict or objection to setting the meeting for 18:00 UTC each week? Assuming I'm not traveling, that works for me pretty well. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Attending AWS re:Invent - what would you like to know?
I'm going to be going to AWS re:Invent this week with an eye to talking to people about how they're using images on AWS and how Fedora can improve there. (Among other things.) If you were in my shoes, any specific questions you'd like answers to? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Meeting time going forward
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:42:00PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:46:33AM -0500, Sam Kottler wrote: Grrr, sorry I knew there was a reason why we hadn't met previously at this time. How about 17:00 then? Yeah, that works. Means I miss if the meeting goes long, but meetings longer than an hour should be banned anyway. :) You can't multi-task? ;-) This time is OK on my end as well, with the travel caveat. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 09:28:31AM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: Those ARM machines are probably not that common nowadays, but still I don't think we should exclude an arch right now. If we have the resources to do ARM in addition to other, more immediately relevant targets, then we should be working on it. Otherwise, I think it'd make sense to plan to look at ARM down the road when it's more likely to be in demand. There's no sense in spending a lot of cycles working on an arch that isn't going to be used, but we need to be ready when ARM starts taking off there. Do we have the resources currently to tackle ARM, or does it make sense to put it on the roadmap for F22, for instance? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Working group meeting next week
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 11:06:09PM -0500, Sam Kottler wrote: It looks like 12pm EST/5pm UTC on Wednesday works the best for the 5 people who have responded thus far. Does that work for the folks who have yet to reply, too? I'll be at a booth at LISA, but don't hold up on my account. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:10:05AM -0400, Sam Kottler wrote: It's getting harder and harder to find 32 bit x86 hardware. There's exactly one use case for 32 bit in the cloud setting (IMO), which dgilmore and I briefly spoke about after the meeting yesterday - extremely memory constrained environments. The python memory consumption issues on 64 bit fall into that category. Does anyone have other use cases that aren't support for older hardware or memory usage with smaller amounts of mem? I'm not too worried about an IaaS running 32-bit nodes, more a question of whether folks are choosing 32-bit or 64-bit for their workload on AWS or other providers. Some very light research shows me that 32-bit is slightly less necessary now that AWS supports 64-bit across all instance types: http://alestic.com/2012/03/ec2-64-bit Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: First cut - Cloud PRD outline
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 09:19:30AM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote: Hi folks, I took an initial cut at the framework/outline for a PRD, and started filling in... some bits of it, mostly in an example type format so people can get an idea of context, other parts in a more this is a description of what should be here, etc. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_PRD Thanks for doing that. I'm taking a crack at a few of the sections. I'm assuming since it's a wiki we'd rather just have a go there rather than hashing out all the specifics on the list? * Validate that this is even remotely on the right track - I wanted basic framework but... at some point release early/often kicks in. Yeah, I think this is on the right track. * There are likely a lot of cases for overlap with the other working groups. I would still prefer to list them out explicitly, just so we can track / ensure that any dependencies are being coordinated / worked through (with our help, or not, or whatever) with the other teams, and also so people don't come along and say OMG YOU FORGOT XYZ and we don't have to explain that we already thought through this and decided it would be best passed on to another team. I think that the IaaS environments section falls in the overlap if not outright belongs in other group category. If you know people who are explicitly avoiding Fedora like the plague for cloud usage, ask them why. This is the kind of stuff that helps us ensure that we are not just talking to ourselves, more or less ;) Indeed. So, as I've gotten approval to attend AWS re:Invent, I'm going to be spending some time asking these questions. Well, not why are you avoiding Fedora like the plague but what do you want out of a cloud image, and how can we get there? I'm also a believer in skate where the puck is going, so we should be asking not only why aren't you using it today? but what gaps are there in what you are using today? maybe we can take a snapshot of it at some point soon and save that as the template. In any case: I'd like to make sure that we make sure that this is an effective way to format a PRD that will allow us to produce useful results before we go filling it all in, so that we don't wind up making a bunch of folks all sadfaced that they spent a bunch of time writing stuff before we decided that this sucks and we should do it some other way. :) Ah, well, we'll always have: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Cloud_PRDdirection=prevoldid=358261 Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: First cut - Cloud PRD outline
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 01:01:18PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:16:06AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Thanks for doing that. I'm taking a crack at a few of the sections. I'm assuming since it's a wiki we'd rather just have a go there rather than hashing out all the specifics on the list? Wikis are good at many things, but discussion isn't one of them. I'd say you're adding to blank areas, or just making wording changes, go for it, but if there's any bigger changes at least summarize them here. From the rest of your message I think that's what you're actually doing. :) Yeah, if there's a big divergence in ideas / how we should do it, then I'd bring it right here. So this is why I'm interested in SCLs, or anything which does what SCLs promise better -- the item #1 above isn't well-covered by _anyone_. Good to know. Thanks! Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
ZOMG WHAT ARE WE BUILDING?!
Hi all, (For those who weren't in today's IRC meeting, I sorta apologize for the subject line. Sorta.) As we were discussing today - we need to decide what we are building, and (almost as importantly) what we're not building. We've agreed that we want to be cooperating with the server SIG, but don't necessarily plan to build a foundation for an IaaS ourselves. Some of the questions that were raised during the meeting: - Should we drop 32-bit? - Should we be targeting ARM? - Do we worry about supporting ALL THE METHODS of building the image, or no? (I recommend we focus on One True Way so as not to confuse everyone with 80 different ways they *could* do it.) Other questions, thoughts, comments, flames? I also want to recommend that we think hard about not just what we build, but accompanying it with appropriate amounts of documentation for the developers/users we expect to be consuming the image. I'm sure it goes without saying that we would document what we do, but I would like to see this thought about each step of the way so that when we get to a finished product, it's dead easy to adopt. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Attention Cloud WG nominees
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 09:32:55AM +0200, Matthias Runge wrote: On 18/10/13 19:59, Matthew Miller wrote: * Governance plan and documents * A product definition -- target audience and so on * A list of changes from existing procedures * Actually doing things ... I've also heard a few comments suggesting that the cloud guest should basically just be the server product in image form, with cloud-init. This is a model where cloud computing is basically seen as providing servers in the sky; I think there's a place for that, but again, I don't think it's what we should be aiming at. The point of having this product as something different is so we can actually better address the different needs. Matt, thank you for driving this further! During the last weekend, I was thinking about the definition of cloud working group and what we should achieve. When thinking about what will be the role of images in the cloud, let's say in 3-5 years, I believe, allmost every server image will be executed in a virtual environment, i.e. in a cloud environment. Thus, I think, we (as the cloud working group) should target this. Every image in the cloud will be used as server image, to serve something. Images are currently used to 'serve' something, what we're talking about here is the difference between pets and cattle, really. How I see the difference here: - server == pet == a system that is running on the bare hardware and may run the IaaS or PaaS that is running instances/applications. I care a lot if this goes down because it's infrastructure. - instance/image == cattle == a system that has the libraries/apps I need *right now* and is being used as part of scale out applications, and if it dies, I don't care as much because I have an automated system that can spin up a new image with the application data. (Being *very* general here). That would mean switched roles/targets between the server wg and the cloud wg (in their target and in cloud image aim). So in terms of product definition: * we strive to provide cloud INFRASTRUCTURE to primarily execute server images provided by the server wg, target audience will be people running Fedora to provide infrastructure. I think this is the reverse of how we should be structuring the cloud/server groups. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Attention Cloud WG nominees
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:59:30PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: This is a message for people who have self-nominated for the Fedora Cloud Product Working Group (FCPWG?). As the FESCo coordinator for the group, it's my job to narrow down the list to the initial 9 voting members. I was going to send this individually, but then I thought, eh, let's do it in public. If you want to send me other thoughts off-line too, go for it. And if you're not in the list of nominees I'd still value your input into some of the concepts. I've been the defacto maintainer of the Fedora cloud image kickstart for the past year or so (I have commit access, and I use it!), and I think that's gotten into fairly decent shape. This WG will be about going beyond decent and into something that's actually both very useful and well-used. I have some ideas for what that'd look like, but I'd like to hear yours too. And, I'm interested in hearing where you'd like to contribute in specific. I didn't see anyone mention QA on the nomination list, for example, and we'll need to find someone to take ownership of that. In specific: Would like to help with governance plan and documents, product definition, defining the target audience, and helping to promote the project to developers in the communities that are consuming cloud instances: e.g. AWS, CloudStack, Euca, OpenStack... Part of that includes surveying and talking to folks who are consuming cloud images now and asking where's the gap between what you use now and Fedora? What changes would make you interested in using Fedora and contributing to the project to sustain the instance images you need? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Attention Cloud WG nominees
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:57:57AM +0200, Sandro red Mathys wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: - server == pet == a system that is running on the bare hardware and may run the IaaS or PaaS that is running instances/applications. I care a lot if this goes down because it's infrastructure. - instance/image == cattle == a system that has the libraries/apps I need *right now* and is being used as part of scale out applications, and if it dies, I don't care as much because I have an automated system that can spin up a new image with the application data. (Being *very* general here). I very much like this approach to say the Server Product is for pets and the Cloud Product is for cattle. But I do think both pets and cattle can be run both on bare metal or virtualized. Sure. As I said, I was being *very* general... and we would want to provide a cloud image that can be spun up on bare metal, in addition to the images for AWS and KVM, Xen and/or the major open source IaaSes. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Attention Cloud WG nominees
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 08:56:50AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: Also I was kind of hoping that we'd never have to worry about running on bare metal, but maybe that's fantasy. :) FWIW, I know that some folks have been using CloudStack/CloudPlatform to manage images running on bare metal for $reasons to do with performance, etc. I'm not sure what percentage of users want to manage cloudy workloads on bare metal, but that use case does exist. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Disabling firewalld on AWS?
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:36:01PM -0400, Sam Kottler wrote: Given the deny-by-default nature of security groups I think it makes sense to disable firewalld in the AMI's. I haven't seen any other AMI's that have a firewall enabled by default and we probably shouldn't break that pattern IMO. I'm +1 to this, as I noted in the other thread. It's non-intuitive to have security groups and a local firewall. Odds are if I'm using Fedora on AWS, I want to use the AWS tools to handle this. Same with OpenStack, CloudStack, etc. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Docker and Fedora, introduction post
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 09:00:08AM +0200, Marek Goldmann wrote: Feel free to use my post, you can link it if you want too, whatever works for you best. This is a write-up for the community, so the community should benefit from it. BTW, expect even more to come in the short future :) Thanks! I went ahead and did a pointer post from Fedora Magazine. When you're working on a follow-up, if you'd like to publish directly on Fedora Magazine, please let me know. Note that Linux.com and other publications would probably be interested in this kind of content as well. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: mattdm @ LinuxCon / CloudOpen this week
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 09:35:04AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: Hi all. I am at LinuxCon NA this week, which I guess has three effects: 1) I'm probably going to be a bit slow at responding to e-mail and other things, 2) I'm definitely going to be distracted from the things I normally do, including F20 cloud image work (but I'll try to keep up with what's going on for the alphas), and 3) if you're here, find me and say hi! I'll also be at CloudOpen/LinuxCon this week, would love to meet other folks who are working on Cloud and Fedora. (Or Cloud in general. Or Fedora. Or beer.) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: CloudStack Collaboration Conference
Hi all - just a note to say that we've extended the CFP by one week. If you're interested in submitting a talk, you now have until 12 October. Note that everyone who submitted by the original deadline will still enjoy a special place in my heart for being punctual. On Thu, Oct 4, 2012, at 08:10 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to give a heads up for folks who might be interested in the CloudStack Collaboration Conference at the end of November. We're hosting it at The Venetian from November 30 to December 2. We'd be interested in any talks that might be related to CloudStack - this would include KVM, Gluster, etc. The CFP is here: http://collab12.cloudstack.org/proposals/ If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks! Joe -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud
CloudStack Collaboration Conference
Hi all, Just wanted to give a heads up for folks who might be interested in the CloudStack Collaboration Conference at the end of November. We're hosting it at The Venetian from November 30 to December 2. We'd be interested in any talks that might be related to CloudStack - this would include KVM, Gluster, etc. The CFP is here: http://collab12.cloudstack.org/proposals/ If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks! Joe -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ ___ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud
