Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank

[Indigo via CnC-List]

Prevention rather than cure...

Here is what I do. Rarely if ever do I have bad head odor 

Flush only with fresh water - I use the shower head from the sink to flush. 

Pump out regularly - I pump out after each weekend night away, and as 
frequently as possible on cruises. 

Flush thoroughly with fresh water each pump out. I pump lots of fresh water 
through the head as well as filling the tank via the deck fitting. Repeat until 
pump out  "glass " shows clean water.   

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Sep 2, 2014, at 22:11, Bev Parslow via CnC-List  
> wrote:
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> Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the 
> family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What 
> is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice?
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Stus-List smelly head and tank

[Bev Parslow via CnC-List]

Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the 
family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What 
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

OK, if you've followed this thread about Chris' engine controls, hopefully
you'll enjoy this story.

The Admiral and I were returning to Lake Pontchartrain from a week of
cruising in Pensacola.  I'd planned to repower Touche' from the Atomic 4 to
a Universal 25XPB prior to the trip but just couldn't get everything in
line.  I had ordered and/or received most of the parts for the repower.
(Important to remember)

As we left Pensacola, The Admiral suggested we check our fuel level.  Oops,
the fuel gauge had "*died*".  I said "No problem, I've ordered a new fuel
gauge and tank.  It's waiting in Mandeville.  I'll replace it when we get
back".  (Remember this)

We were in the Pas au Herons Channel north of Dauphin Island, Alabama
bucking high teens on the nose and 2-3 foot seas.  The AT4 was giving it
it's all but we were making 2-3 knots over ground.  I had the main up and
sheeted board tight to help the AT4 best we could.  The Admiral and I
started smelling exhaust fumes.  I lifted the cockpit locker lid to find
soot.  Further investigation suggested a crack in the exhaust piping.  OK,
the exhaust system "*died*", not really fatal, just smelly.  I told the
Admiral "No problem, I've ordered a new exhaust system.  It's waiting in
Mandeville.  I'll replace it when we get back".  (Remember this)

When overnighted in Gulfport, MS.  The next morning we departed and sailed
up the Marianne Channel towards Lake Pontchartrain.  At the first bridge
coming into the Rigolets (the outlet for Lake Pontchartrain), I cranked the
engine and tried to put it in gear.  The entire shifter/throttle assembly
failed.  The bolts holding the assembly to the bulkhead had sheared.  The
assembly moved rather than shifting or adjusting the RPMs.  OK, now the
engine controls had "*died*".  I told the Admiral "No problem, I've ordered
engine controls.  They're waiting in Mandeville.  I'll replace it when we
get back".  (Remember this)

At this time, the Admiral slowly turned to me and said "You didn't order a
new girl friend, did you?"

We cracked up.  (Hope you followed the logic.)

Two weeks later, Touche' had a new drive train.  I still have the same
Admiral.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




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> *From: *"Chris Price via CnC-List" 
> *To: *"Rick Taillieu" , cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent: *Monday, September 1, 2014 10:20:30 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control
>
>
> Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River.
> Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to
> kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle
> split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't
> approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting
> anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that
> were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words.
>
> I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and
> thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts
> list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing
> welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement?
> May have to give Bacons a shot.
>
> Chris Price
> Pradel 35 Mk I
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Re: Stus-List CnC 33 MK II Keel removal

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Jake,

Once again, perfect timing. I would be very interesting in seeing photos of 
what to expect when dropping the keel and rebedding. I just yanked the mast 
this morning and the keel joint/keel-bolt maintenance is on the top of the 
project list for this coming Fall. 

I know that the 37' is not the same boat but the design is very similar and any 
idea of what I’m approaching would be greatly appreciated.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List  
wrote:

> Marcus,
> 
> I have had the keel of my boat dropped and rebedded.  One bolt is under the
> mast.   It takes several men and a good travellift to get the job done.  The
> keel bolts are very long.  We came very close to running out of room on the
> travellift.  My boat is quite similar to yours.  I can supply photos offline
> if you would find them helpful.  It's not a hard job, just it does require
> some serious gear.
> 
> Jake
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Greeetings CnC  fans
> 
> Does anyone out there have any insight or experience in dropping the keel on
> a 33 foot MKII. According to the diagrams in my owners manual one of the
> five bolts is under the mast.  It also looks like the keel will have to be
> dropped over 1.5 feet in order to clear the  keel bolt from the keel stub
> due to the length of the two most fwd bolts. 
> 
> any correspondence on this subject would be appreciated especially fot the
> 33 MKII. I am hauling her tomorrow due to a grounding incident which seems
> to have only shown evidence of cosmetic flaking. 
> 
> Marcus
> 1986 CnC 33 MKII
> Victoria BC  
> 
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> No affiliation here, just thought I will pass along for anyone who might be
> interested. Seems pretty good considering fresh water cooled an electronic
> ignition.
> 
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Chris, gotcha

Touche' had the same thing.  Mine failed when the 4 machine screws holding
the mechanism behind the bulkhead sheared off.  When I moved the levers,
the whole assembly moved so neither the throttle or the shifter worked.  It
happened at the end of a transit.  We put the tranny in forward at the
engine, cranked the engine at each bridge and idled through.  To dock, we
idled up to the slip, killed the engine, coasted up to the slip and lassoed
the end pilings.  Sucked.  Not sure what brand it was.

It was the last trip on the Atomic 4.  The new diesel engine, controls,
etc. had been purchased and were installed the week after our return.  I
moved the controls to the pedestal.

Here's one on eBay.

<
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUAL-LEVER-SIDE-MOUNT-MARINE-ENGINE-CONTROL-YACHT-/141367863411?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item20ea2e6873&vxp=mtr
>

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Chris Price via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> It is a two lever control. The outer housing rotates with the throttle
> lever and the inner housing rotates forward and back for forward, neutral
> and reverse. I guess it's a side, flush mount, mounted to starboard of the
> wheel on the side of the helmsman's cockpit.
>
> Chris Price
> 35 Mk I
>
> --
> *From: *"Chris Price via CnC-List" 
> *To: *"Rick Taillieu" , cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent: *Monday, September 1, 2014 10:20:30 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control
>
>
> Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River.
> Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to
> kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle
> split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't
> approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting
> anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that
> were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words.
>
> I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and
> thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts
> list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing
> welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement?
> May have to give Bacons a shot.
>
> Chris Price
> Pradel 35 Mk I
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Re: Stus-List CnC 33 MK II Keel removal

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Marcus,

I have had the keel of my boat dropped and rebedded.  One bolt is under the
mast.   It takes several men and a good travellift to get the job done.  The
keel bolts are very long.  We came very close to running out of room on the
travellift.  My boat is quite similar to yours.  I can supply photos offline
if you would find them helpful.  It's not a hard job, just it does require
some serious gear.

Jake

-Original Message-
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via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC 33 MK II Keel removal

Greeetings CnC  fans

Does anyone out there have any insight or experience in dropping the keel on
a 33 foot MKII. According to the diagrams in my owners manual one of the
five bolts is under the mast.  It also looks like the keel will have to be
dropped over 1.5 feet in order to clear the  keel bolt from the keel stub
due to the length of the two most fwd bolts. 

any correspondence on this subject would be appreciated especially fot the
33 MKII. I am hauling her tomorrow due to a grounding incident which seems
to have only shown evidence of cosmetic flaking. 

Marcus
1986 CnC 33 MKII
Victoria BC  

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   1.  Atomic 4 on Craigslist Nanaimo (Russ & Melody)
   2.  Battery chargers. (Glen Eddie)
   3. Re:  Battery chargers. (Dennis C.)
   4. Re:  Battery chargers. (Josh Muckley)
   5. Re:  Battery chargers. (Joe Della Barba)
   6. Re:  Battery chargers. (Rich Knowles)
   7. Re:  Battery chargers. (Josh Muckley)


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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:21:48 -0700
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Hi Guys,

No affiliation here, just thought I will pass along for anyone who might be
interested. Seems pretty good considering fresh water cooled an electronic
ignition.

http://nanaimo.craigslist.ca/boa/4622990799.html

 Cheers, Russ
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Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk
i



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To: Glen Eddie , CnClist

Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
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Mastervolt ChargeMaster 12/25-3 or 12/35-3 or a Blue Sea Systems 7521 25
amp.

If you can find one on eBay, a old Xantrex Truecharge 20+ (NOT a Truecharge
2).  Here's a link to a refurbished one:

<
http://www.neobits.com/xantrex_804_0220r_truecharge_20_reburbished_p5505650.
html?atc=gbp&gclid=CNKS0pDxvsACFSgV7AodOBIAxQ
>

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
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>
>  Anyone have recommendatio

Stus-List Too Much Bottom Paint - Use It Up?

[kelly petew via CnC-List]

 I have a 30-2 and I have had adhesion problems, too.  I use Micron CSC, too, 
but I don't race my boat.  In my situation, I had spots where the original 
gelcoat was exposed, and new paint would simply not adhere well [brush or 
roller].  However, I've had success with doing a light sanding first, and then 
priming these areas with Interlux Promocon.  Go to their website for more info. 
 I emailed Interlux and they responded with detailed instructions -- not too 
labor-intensive nor expensive.  A quart is more than I've needed.   Good 
Luck!!! Pete W. Siren Song'91 C&C 30 MKII Deltaville, VA
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Chris,

Try Atlantic Spars in Annapolis.  They were able to weld my hatch frame.
Joel


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Chris Price via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The welder at the Naval Academy shop didn't think he could do an adequate
> job. May try to epoxy the halves together. Bacon's didn't have anything
> similar. I think it's going to be a winter job. A large pair of vise grips
> will do the job temporarily if nothing else works.
>
> Chris Price
> Pradel 35 Mk I
>
> --
> *From: *"Joe via CnC-List Della Barba" 
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 2, 2014 3:17:33 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control
>
>  Maybe not Morse. This looks like what we have.
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/teleflex--mjb-control--159964
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Della
> Barba, Joe via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 02, 2014 3:15 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control
>
>
>
> We had something similar happen in Bermuda. We got a temp weld job to get
> us home and then replaced the originals with Morse controls.
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *John and Maryann Read via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:11 AM
> *To:* 'Chris Price'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control
>
>
>
> Not familiar with Marmac.  Controls mounted on steering pedestal?  Who
> manufactured it??  They might be a good source.  Edson may be a help.
> Google is your friend  J
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Chris Price via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, September 01, 2014 10:21 PM
> *To:* Rick Taillieu; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control
>
>
>
>
>
> Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River.
> Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to
> kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle
> split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't
> approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting
> anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that
> were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words.
>
>
>
> I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and
> thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts
> list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing
> welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement?
> May have to give Bacons a shot.
>
>
>
> Chris Price
>
> Pradel 35 Mk I
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

[Chris Price via CnC-List]

The welder at the Naval Academy shop didn't think he could do an adequate job. 
May try to epoxy the halves together. Bacon's didn't have anything similar. I 
think it's going to be a winter job. A large pair of vise grips will do the job 
temporarily if nothing else works. 

Chris Price 
Pradel 35 Mk I 

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From: "Joe via CnC-List Della Barba"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 3:17:33 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control 



Maybe not Morse. This looks like what we have. 

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/teleflex--mjb-control--159964 







Joe Della Barba 





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We had something similar happen in Bermuda. We got a temp weld job to get us 
home and then replaced the originals with Morse controls. 




Joe Della Barba 


Coquina 

C&C 35 MK I 


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Not familiar with Marmac. Controls mounted on steering pedestal? Who 
manufactured it?? They might be a good source. Edson may be a help. Google is 
your friend J 




John and Maryann 

Legacy III 

1982 C&C 34 

Noank, CT 





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Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came 
into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the 
stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half 
as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock 
too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not 
engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off 
the mooring lines learned a few new words. 





I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks 
to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I 
suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it 
is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give 
Bacons a shot. 





Chris Price 


Pradel 35 Mk I 














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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

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Maybe not Morse. This looks like what we have.
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/teleflex--mjb-control--159964


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We had something similar happen in Bermuda. We got a temp weld job to get us 
home and then replaced the originals with Morse controls.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Not familiar with Marmac.  Controls mounted on steering pedestal?  Who 
manufactured it??  They might be a good source.  Edson may be a help.  Google 
is your friend  ☺

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT

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Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came 
into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the 
stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half 
as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock 
too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not 
engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off 
the mooring lines learned a few new words.

I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks 
to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I 
suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it 
is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give 
Bacons a shot.

Chris Price
Pradel 35 Mk I




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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

We had something similar happen in Bermuda. We got a temp weld job to get us 
home and then replaced the originals with Morse controls.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Not familiar with Marmac.  Controls mounted on steering pedestal?  Who 
manufactured it??  They might be a good source.  Edson may be a help.  Google 
is your friend  ☺

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT

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Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came 
into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the 
stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half 
as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock 
too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not 
engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off 
the mooring lines learned a few new words.

I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks 
to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I 
suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it 
is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give 
Bacons a shot.

Chris Price
Pradel 35 Mk I




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Re: Stus-List Too Much Bottom Paint - Use It Up?

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

Calypso has a similar ablative paint situation as you describe.  We are in the 
PNW with cold water so we mostly have slime and a few barnacles to deal with.

For the past 14 years, every two years we haul and have the bottom pressure 
washed to remove the loose bottom paint.  If there are any repairs (C&C smile, 
epoxy over the fiberglass to iron keel to lead keel joints) we have the repair 
work done “to be sure the keel doesn’t fall off”.

Typically the ablative paint left after the pressure wash gets a rough sanding 
to help the new coats adhere.  We put on two coats of bottom paint along with 
zinc paint on the prop, strut, and shaft.  All the through hulls get inspected 
and lubed.  I dive on the boat every 6 months to check/change the zincs and 
inspect the overall bottom condition.  We cannot clean ablative paint in our 
marina.  Mostly a brisk sail in a little chop will clean off enough goo that 
the boat sails OK for the club level of racing we participate in.  If we were 
to push the racing harder changing bottom paint is high on the list of light 
air speed improvements.

So, my recommendation is to save the extra $$ for the complete strip unless you 
observe other issues that require the extra epoxy barrier coating.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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My 30-2 has many layers of Micron CSC ablative paint. The most recent layers of 
paint are flaking. I am told this is due to the fact that ablative paint 
absorbs water like a sponge and then sheds that water when the boat is hauled. 
Eventually, there is enough swelling and shrinking in the layers of old paint 
to prevent proper adhesion.

Anyway, I had been planning to have the yard strip off all the old paint, apply 
a barrier coat,  and then start fresh with a couple of coats of bottom paint. 
The cost would be about $120 per foot.

However, this is just one of several projects and I'm trying to prioritize. I 
have been wondering  Do I really need a bottom job,  or can I just continue 
to let the bottom paint ablate,  at least for the time being? Sure, I don't 
have a race bottom, but I can live with that.

I will eventually get a bottom job, but why shouldn't I just "use" the copious 
bottom paint that I already have? Am I missing something?
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

[Rich Knowles via CnC-List]

Chris, I suggest you Google up Morse controls. There are many configurations 
including types that will mount pretty much exactly the way your current unit 
is. The cables are probably due for replacement too. 

Rich

> On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:53, Chris Price via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> It is a two lever control. The outer housing rotates with the throttle lever 
> and the inner housing rotates forward and back for forward, neutral and 
> reverse. I guess it's a side, flush mount, mounted to starboard of the wheel 
> on the side of the helmsman's cockpit.
> 
> Chris Price
> 35 Mk I 
> 
> From: "Chris Price via CnC-List" 
> To: "Rick Taillieu" , cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:20:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control
> 
> 
> Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. 
> Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to 
> kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle 
> split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't 
> approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, 
> but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were 
> prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words.
> 
> I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and 
> thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list 
> but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing 
> welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May 
> have to give Bacons a shot.
> 
> Chris Price
> Pradel 35 Mk I
> 
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

[Chris Price via CnC-List]

It is a two lever control. The outer housing rotates with the throttle lever 
and the inner housing rotates forward and back for forward, neutral and 
reverse. I guess it's a side, flush mount, mounted to starboard of the wheel on 
the side of the helmsman's cockpit. 

Chris Price 
35 Mk I 

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Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came 
into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the 
stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half 
as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock 
too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not 
engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off 
the mooring lines learned a few new words. 

I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks 
to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I 
suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it 
is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give 
Bacons a shot. 

Chris Price 
Pradel 35 Mk I 
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Chris,

Are you talking about a bulkhead mounted engine control?  Single lever or
two?

Marmac made a single lever control.  The Uflex B35 is similar.  See:
http://uflexusa.ultraflexgroup.com/articoli.asp?sart=224&art=478

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Chris Price via CnC-List <
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>
> Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River.
> Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to
> kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle
> split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't
> approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting
> anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that
> were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words.
>
> I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and
> thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts
> list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing
> welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement?
> May have to give Bacons a shot.
>
> Chris Price
> Pradel 35 Mk I
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Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control

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Not familiar with Marmac.  Controls mounted on steering pedestal?  Who 
manufactured it??  They might be a good source.  Edson may be a help.  Google 
is your friend  J



John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT



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Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came 
into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the 
stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half 
as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock 
too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not 
engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off 
the mooring lines learned a few new words.



I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks 
to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I 
suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it 
is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give 
Bacons a shot.



Chris Price

Pradel 35 Mk I

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