I too went thru Navtec for a leak without success, took mine to local tractor
dealer, fixed the first time 5 years ago, still no leaks or problems. Contact
me off list if anyone wants address phone number. Navtec charged me $ 300 plus
and did not fix, my local guy $ 75 and still going strong
Barry Miller,
Miller Time, C&C 34
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> 1. Re: Backstay aduster (Tim Goodyear)
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> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:32:16 -0400
> From: Tim Goodyear
> To: Bruno Lachance ,
>"cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
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> Bruno,
>
> Have you considered a cascade system? I was racing on a friends boat
> earlier this year and he was going to pull out because his backstay was
> still at Navtec being re-built... We rigged up a cascade system using
> existing parts / line I had on Mojito; varying sizes of Amsteel, high load
> guy blocks and a vang I'd put together while my vang was being rebuilt by
> Navtec (there's a theme here somewhere). It worked out at 24:1 (2:1 x 2:1
> x 6:1), which would get you 2400 lbs tension with a 100lb pull. Below is a
> link to a 24:1 version and a Beneteau 36.7 I sailed on had a 48:1 like the
> Harken. With only a single attachment point there is a risk of tangles
> versus the multiple chain plates, but Amsteel is slippery stuff, so as long
> as you get the block reeving right it should be OK.
>
> http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?11645-Hydraulic-to-Cascading-Backstay-Upgrade
> http://www.harken.com/DeckLayout.aspx?id=14795
>
> Tim
> Mojito
> C&C 35-3
> Branford, CT
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> The 33 is not split backstay, maybe some late models have them but not
>> mine.
>>
>> I can not beleive there is not a better reliable system on the market.
>> anybody with direct experience of the Wichard mechanical wiht ratchet ? i
>> don't even know if the handle pumps up and down or rotates with some
>> sort of relief system hence the ratchet ??? same question about power, but
>> the numbers indicate it would be more than appropriate for my boat.
>>
>> I'm worried to dump more money into hydrolic and be a the same point in a
>> year or two. Worse case scenario i lost the rig, i had to jury something
>> this summer offshore in 25 knots plus when the thing blew on my transom.
>> not fun at all. i bought a spare turnbucle after that one and went on with
>> my vacations.
>>
>> thanks for inputs
>>
>> Bruno Lachance
>> C&C 33 mkII
>> Becassine
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:20 -0400
>> To: kevindrisc...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>>
>> My 2 cents:
>> I don't think the 33 is a split backstay. The cost to split it and
>> install new chain plates would probably exceed the cost of a hydraulic
>> unit.
>> With a masthead rig I would want more power than you can get with a manual
>> adjuster.
>>
>>
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I second the split back with tackle/cam cleat apparatus suggestion. I race
>> a bit with it and Find it straight forward and quick adjusting. Pretty
>> direct feedback on rig tension.
>>
>> KD
>>
>>
>> On October 8, 2014, at 1:13PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> For a 33 you may want to consider one of the fittings that ride on a
>> split backstay from Johnson. Not nearly as eloquent but effective and
>> probably the best value.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you race your boat you will find the mechanical back stay adjuster to
>> be a complete PITA.
>>
>> I have a stainless steel Barient back stay adjuster (5/8" pins and uses a
>> winch handle to adjust) that came with my boat back in 1975 to be used in
>> case the original Meriman