Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger

2015-05-12 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
My heat exchanger on a Universal M4-30 has caps on the ends. I remove the 
single 9/16 cap screw on each end cap and remove them exposing the tubes. The 
raw water is what leaks out. The antifreeze is inside the shell, and it doesn't 
leak out. I rod out the tubes using small 1/8 wooden dowels I get from hobby 
stores like Michaels or even WalMart. I'd love to find pipe cleaners but 
haven't found them long enough. My heat exchanger is about 13 long so I buy 
the 3' long dowels and break em in half, and keep em in my spare engine parts 
container onboard. I do this once a season and for twelve years it seems to 
work well, reusing the OEM rubber gasket on each end. My heat exchanger has a 
pencil zinc that needs to be changed each spring. 

The inside of the shell can be acid cleaned to improve heat transfer. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 CC 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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First, I would try to suck/siphon enough coolant out and save it for reuse. 
Second, without the end bells on the core is removable. In fact in dire 
straights you can do so to make your fresh water cooled into a raw water 
cooled. That being said, I don't think you can remove the end bells without 
causing coolant to leak. 

Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 CC 37+ 
Solomons, MD 
As I progress through my cooling system I will have to clean out the heat 
exchanger on our 3HM35. I have a simple question, not covered in the repair 
manual I have... 

Can it be cleaned in place once the end caps are removed? And, if so, does this 
mean I don't have the drain the coolant? 

thx 

Tom Buscaglia 
S/V Alera 
1990 CC 37+/40 
Vashon WA 
P 206.463.9200 
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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Russ Melody via CnC-List


250 bucks for a swaged eye terminal??

Wow, glad I'm wire. Sweet's gang, sans backstay, 
was less than $200... installed!


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
Vancouver Island


At 12:01 PM 12/05/2015, you wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone. Rigger is 
stopping by tonight to have a look. Not sure if 
he's bringing dye but he's already given me a 
price for replacing the eye alone, about $250 
plus. I just want peace of mind.Â


Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
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Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again

Nate
Sarah Jean
1980 CC 30-1
headed for the St. Croix River

and
Adagio
1994 Tartan 31
Lake Superior
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Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread svpegasus38






Yeah, for $63 I think I will pass. Although there might be some good 
parts..
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.


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2015 17:48To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Nate Flesness;Subject:Stus-List Salvage 
landfall 38 on ebay, Boston 
MAhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again
NateSarah Jean1980 CC 30-1headed for the St. Croix River
andAdagio1994 Tartan 31Lake Superior___

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Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread robert via CnC-List
I am no authority on rigging but are we talking about 'swagging' versus 
'cold pressing' .I think rod rigging is 'cold pressed' and there 
could be a difference in pricingdon't knowjust 
guessingprobably can't get 'cold pressing' done just anywhere?


With a 31 years old original Navtec rod rigged boat, I am paying 
attention to these threads.  A prudent person might not wait until their 
insurance company or a rig failure caused them to replace their standing 
rigging.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2015-05-12 9:18 PM, Russ  Melody via CnC-List wrote:


250 bucks for a swaged eye terminal??

Wow, glad I'm wire. Sweet's gang, sans backstay, was less than $200... 
installed!


Cheers, Russ
/Sweet /35 mk-1
Vancouver Island


At 12:01 PM 12/05/2015, you wrote:
Thanks for the replies everyone. Rigger is stopping by tonight to 
have a look. Not sure if he's bringing dye but he's already given me 
a price for replacing the eye alone, about $250 plus. I just want 
peace of mind.Â


Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto



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Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread robert via CnC-List

John:
Are you seriously thinking of taking on a 'project' or a merely a 
'salvage sale'?


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2015-05-12 10:49 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:

This might tempt me...

God I hate driving to Mass...

John


Sent from my iPad

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again

Nate
Sarah Jean
1980 CC 30-1
headed for the St. Croix River

and
Adagio
1994 Tartan 31
Lake Superior
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Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Project by all means.  Always liked the LF38. Looking for a long term project 
cruising boat for a few years from now.  I know, don't say it.

It's on the eBay watch list, we'll see where the price goes.  No shortage of 
Sandy boats and who knows the condition.  

Stop, walk away, don't think about it... too late.

John




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 On May 12, 2015, at 10:02 PM, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 John:
 Are you seriously thinking of taking on a 'project' or a merely a 'salvage 
 sale'?
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S. 
 
 
 On 2015-05-12 10:49 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:
 This might tempt me...
 
 God I hate driving to Mass...
 
 John
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 12, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276
 
 Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again
 
 Nate
 Sarah Jean
 1980 CC 30-1
 headed for the St. Croix River
 
 and
 Adagio
 1994 Tartan 31
 Lake Superior
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Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
This might tempt me...

God I hate driving to Mass...

John


Sent from my iPad

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 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276
 
 Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again
 
 Nate
 Sarah Jean
 1980 CC 30-1
 headed for the St. Croix River
 
 and
 Adagio
 1994 Tartan 31
 Lake Superior
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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
I don't  recall the exact guidelines but if your rod rigging is more than 10 
years 
Old or 20,000 miles it should be replaced. Many insurance companies 
Require it. 

There are different levels of rigging inspection also. 



 On May 12, 2015, at 10:10, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Stevan:
 
 I agree with Dwight and others to, at the very least, do a dye test.  Better 
 still, since you had a rigger do an inspection, have him back to do the dye 
 test.
 
 From the pics, it looks like a 'crack' and if it is, you should not sail your 
 boat with it.it is your 'cap shroud'.
 
 Just curious, did the rigger inspect the two 'tie bars' between the tangs.  
 When we were first assembling our rig in 2006, we noticed that the top tie 
 bar was almost half cut through by the wire in the main halyard.it was 
 made out of aluminum ...had a machine shop here make us a new one from 
 SShope your rigger inspected them.
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S. 
 
 On 2015-05-12 10:30 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I had a rigging inspection about a month ago, rigger says everything is fine 
 with the exception of a couple of small things I can sort out myself. 
 Nothing to worry about otherwise. Great I thought
 
 Mast comes down for the winter up here. This year I removed spreaders and 
 all rigging so I could have this inspection done thoroughly and so I could 
 replace any cotter pins etc. Also easier to store the mast without the 
 spreaders and rod rigging. 
 
 So I'm putting it all back together yesterday in preparation for crane time 
 on Friday and I notice that the   fitting that connects the cap 
 shroud to the spreader is cracked .. I think. I'm going to try to link the 
 images inline, if you don't see them click the links at the end:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Um, is this going to be a problem? Looking at it I kind of think yes .. 
 which is a bummer, man. I'm perplexed that the rigging guy didn't notice it 
 or mention it if he did. 
 
 Thoughts? 
 I'm thinking that maybe the sawing action of that fitting rubbing against 
 it's neighbours (three pieces of rod come together at the spreader tip on my 
 rig, all the pieces are sandwiched and this guy is in the middle) just 
 caused some scoring, but that it's not a crack. If I thought for sure this 
 was a crack I wouldn't be asking the question. I don't want to shorten our 
 short sailing season and I'de like to get the stick pointing skyward asap. 
 Maybe I should just trust the rigger .. I did email him but so far no 
 response. 
 
 
 Thanks,
 Steve
 Suhana, CC 32
 
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/1.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/2.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/3.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/4.jpg
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Guidleines:

http://www.navtec.net/docs/RiggingService.pdf

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Stelios via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I don't  recall the exact guidelines but if your rod rigging is more than
 10 years
 Old or 20,000 miles it should be replaced. Many insurance companies
 Require it.

 There are different levels of rigging inspection also.



 On May 12, 2015, at 10:10, robert via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Stevan:

 I agree with Dwight and others to, at the very least, do a dye test.
 Better still, since you had a rigger do an inspection, have him back to do
 the dye test.

 From the pics, it looks like a 'crack' and if it is, you should not sail
 your boat with it.it is your 'cap shroud'.

 Just curious, did the rigger inspect the two 'tie bars' between the
 tangs.  When we were first assembling our rig in 2006, we noticed that the
 top tie bar was almost half cut through by the wire in the main
 halyard.it was made out of aluminum ...had a machine shop here make
 us a new one from SShope your rigger inspected them.

 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 CC 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S.

 On 2015-05-12 10:30 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:

 Hi All,

  I had a rigging inspection about a month ago, rigger says everything is
 fine with the exception of a couple of small things I can sort out myself.
 Nothing to worry about otherwise. Great I thought

  Mast comes down for the winter up here. This year I removed spreaders
 and all rigging so I could have this inspection done thoroughly and so I
 could replace any cotter pins etc. Also easier to store the mast without
 the spreaders and rod rigging.

  So I'm putting it all back together yesterday in preparation for crane
 time on Friday and I notice that the fitting that connects the cap shroud
 to the spreader is cracked .. I think. I'm going to try to link the images
 inline, if you don't see them click the links at the end:


  Um, is this going to be a problem? Looking at it I kind of think yes ..
 which is a bummer, man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Vlt-lpVOY. I'm
 perplexed that the rigging guy didn't notice it or mention it if he did.

  Thoughts?
 I'm thinking that maybe the sawing action of that fitting rubbing against
 it's neighbours (three pieces of rod come together at the spreader tip on
 my rig, all the pieces are sandwiched and this guy is in the middle) just
 caused some scoring, but that it's not a crack. If I thought for sure this
 was a crack I wouldn't be asking the question. I don't want to shorten our
 short sailing season and I'de like to get the stick pointing skyward asap.
 Maybe I should just trust the rigger .. I did email him but so far no
 response.


  Thanks,
 Steve
 Suhana, CC 32

 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/1.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/2.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/3.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/4.jpg






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Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread robert via CnC-List

Stevan:

I agree with Dwight and others to, at the very least, do a dye test.  
Better still, since you had a rigger do an inspection, have him back to 
do the dye test.


From the pics, it looks like a 'crack' and if it is, you should not 
sail your boat with it.it is your 'cap shroud'.


Just curious, did the rigger inspect the two 'tie bars' between the 
tangs.  When we were first assembling our rig in 2006, we noticed that 
the top tie bar was almost half cut through by the wire in the main 
halyard.it was made out of aluminum ...had a machine shop here 
make us a new one from SShope your rigger inspected them.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
CC 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-05-12 10:30 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:

Hi All,

I had a rigging inspection about a month ago, rigger says everything 
is fine with the exception of a couple of small things I can sort out 
myself. Nothing to worry about otherwise. Great I thought


Mast comes down for the winter up here. This year I removed spreaders 
and all rigging so I could have this inspection done thoroughly and so 
I could replace any cotter pins etc. Also easier to store the mast 
without the spreaders and rod rigging.


So I'm putting it all back together yesterday in preparation for crane 
time on Friday and I notice that the fitting that connects the cap 
shroud to the spreader is cracked .. I think. I'm going to try to link 
the images inline, if you don't see them click the links at the end:



Um, is this going to be a problem? Looking at it I kind of think yes 
.. which is a bummer, man 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Vlt-lpVOY. I'm perplexed that the 
rigging guy didn't notice it or mention it if he did.


Thoughts?
I'm thinking that maybe the sawing action of that fitting rubbing 
against it's neighbours (three pieces of rod come together at the 
spreader tip on my rig, all the pieces are sandwiched and this guy is 
in the middle) just caused some scoring, but that it's not a crack. If 
I thought for sure this was a crack I wouldn't be asking the question. 
I don't want to shorten our short sailing season and I'de like to get 
the stick pointing skyward asap. Maybe I should just trust the rigger 
.. I did email him but so far no response.



Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, CC 32

http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/1.jpg 
http://webspace.ocad.ca/%7Esplavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/1.jpg
http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/2.jpg 
http://webspace.ocad.ca/%7Esplavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/2.jpg
http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/3.jpg 
http://webspace.ocad.ca/%7Esplavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/3.jpg
http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/4.jpg 
http://webspace.ocad.ca/%7Esplavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/4.jpg







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Re: Stus-List Dauphin island video

2015-05-12 Thread PME via CnC-List
Hi,


Thanks for sharing the video.  




-
Paul E.
1981 CC Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL




 On May 12, 2015, at 9:30 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 11:50:32 -0500
 From: Tracy Hirsh tracyh1...@gmail.com mailto:tracyh1...@gmail.com
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Did you see the Dauphin island race disaster?
 Message-ID:
   canx5xgqi4hrsteelj0v38mcjzokkkywegqjq2kduyj0_-xy...@mail.gmail.com 
 mailto:canx5xgqi4hrsteelj0v38mcjzokkkywegqjq2kduyj0_-xy...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 We had our CC out on the bay for DI Race. We had already finished the race
 and were headed back to Fairhope, just south of Middle Bay Light, when the
 storm hit. It was a tremendous. It struck quickly and winds were sustained
 36-58+ knots for about 30 minutes. Naturally we had all our sails up and
 getting them down was a challenge but we did with minimal damage. I felt
 very confident that the boat would hold up just fine to the conditions, it
 was my crew I was most worried about! All came through just fine.
 
 Here is a video that one of the participants put together if anyone is
 interested.
 
 57th Annual Dauphin Island Race
 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByYHCPWZD-L5b0s0am1KN3l6Tm8/preview 
 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByYHCPWZD-L5b0s0am1KN3l6Tm8/preview
 
 Tracy Hirsh
 Ogopogo
 1989 CC 37+
 Fairhope AL

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Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
I was all set until I read that there is no trailer.


Rich Knowles
Nanaimo, BC
INDIGO LF38
Almost sold in Halifax, NS.





On May 12, 2015, at 20:43, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Yeah, my wife said, buy it for parts?  I wasn't expecting that from her...

The engine looked to be in pretty good shape from the photos.

Frederick G Street
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38)
Bayfield, WI



On May 12, 2015, at 9:22 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com 
mailto:svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Yeah, for $63 I think I will pass. Although there might be some good 
 parts..
 
 Doug Mountjoy
 svPegasus
 LF38
 just west of Ballard, WA.
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 Date: Tue, May 12, 2015 17:48
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 Subject:Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276
  
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276
 
 Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again
 
 Nate
 Sarah Jean
 1980 CC 30-1
 headed for the St. Croix River
 
 and
 Adagio
 1994 Tartan 31
 Lake Superior
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Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Yeah, my wife said, buy it for parts?  I wasn't expecting that from her...

The engine looked to be in pretty good shape from the photos.

Frederick G Street
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38)
Bayfield, WI



 On May 12, 2015, at 9:22 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List 
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 Yeah, for $63 I think I will pass. Although there might be some good 
 parts..
 
 Doug Mountjoy
 svPegasus
 LF38
 just west of Ballard, WA.
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 Date: Tue, May 12, 2015 17:48
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 Subject:Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276
 
 Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again
 
 Nate
 Sarah Jean
 1980 CC 30-1
 headed for the St. Croix River
 
 and
 Adagio
 1994 Tartan 31
 Lake Superior
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Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Too bad it would cost me $6000 to get it home. 

Brent D
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 12, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List 
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 I was all set until I read that there is no trailer.
 
 
 Rich Knowles
 Nanaimo, BC
 INDIGO LF38
 Almost sold in Halifax, NS.
 
 
 
 
 
 On May 12, 2015, at 20:43, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, my wife said, buy it for parts?  I wasn't expecting that from her...
 
 The engine looked to be in pretty good shape from the photos.
 
 Frederick G Street
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38)
 Bayfield, WI
 
 
 
 On May 12, 2015, at 9:22 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, for $63 I think I will pass. Although there might be some good 
 parts..
 
 Doug Mountjoy
 svPegasus
 LF38
 just west of Ballard, WA.
 -- Original message--
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 Date: Tue, May 12, 2015 17:48
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 Subject:Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276
 
 Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again
 
 Nate
 Sarah Jean
 1980 CC 30-1
 headed for the St. Croix River
 
 and
 Adagio
 1994 Tartan 31
 Lake Superior
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Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger

2015-05-12 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
The heat exchanger on my M35B is as you have described, except that the tubes 
can be cleaned with the jointed rod and barrel cleaning brush for a 22 caliber 
rifle, which I bought at a local hardware store. End gaskets get a bit or 
Permatex and get reused each year – though I do  have a spare set in the parts 
box.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 5:27 PM
To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger

 

My heat exchanger on a Universal M4-30 has caps on the ends.  I remove the 
single 9/16 cap screw on each end cap and remove them exposing the tubes.  The 
raw water is what leaks out.  The antifreeze is inside the shell, and it 
doesn't leak out.  I rod out the tubes using small 1/8 wooden dowels I get 
from hobby stores like Michaels or even WalMart.  I'd love to find pipe 
cleaners but haven't found them long enough.  My heat exchanger is about 13 
long so I buy the 3' long dowels and break em in half, and keep em in my spare 
engine parts container onboard.  I do this once a season and for twelve years 
it seems to work well, reusing the OEM rubber gasket on each end.My heat 
exchanger has a pencil zinc that needs to be changed each spring.

 

The inside of the shell can be acid cleaned to improve heat transfer.

 

 

Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

 

  _  

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Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 10:16:01 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Heat exchanger

 

First, I would try to suck/siphon enough coolant out and save it for reuse.  
Second, without the end bells on the core is removable.  In fact in dire 
straights you can do so to make your fresh water cooled into a raw water 
cooled.  That being said, I don't think you can remove the end bells without 
causing coolant to leak.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons, MD

As I progress through my cooling system I will have to clean out the heat 
exchanger on our 3HM35.  I have a simple question, not covered in the repair 
manual I have...

Can it be cleaned in place once the end caps are removed? And, if so, does this 
mean I don't have the drain the coolant?

thx

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 CC 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200 tel:206.463.9200 
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Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

2015-05-12 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Parts would be the real value.

 

If one had a way of disposing of the fiberglass after stripping the boat and 
cutting it up with a Sawzall, there would probably be several thousand dollars 
of salable parts. The engine is probably OK. Harken furler, anchor windlass, 
pedestal, steering wheel, winches, a radar in the background, maybe the sails, 
and the keel is probably worth a thou or two as scrap metal (the keel from a 
Hunter 27 a buddy recently parted out was worth $1500). 

 

But I’m not sure how much you would actually make on a per hour basis.

 

$63 seems about right.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

 

Yeah, for $63 I think I will pass. Although there might be some good parts..

 

Doug Mountjoy

svPegasus

LF38 

just west of Ballard, WA.

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Date: Tue, May 12, 2015 17:48

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com ;

Cc: Nate Flesness;

Subject:Stus-List Salvage landfall 38 on ebay, Boston MA

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206? 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-C-amp-C-Landfall-Monohull-/221767154206?_trksid=p2056016.l4276
 _trksid=p2056016.l4276

 

Last bid I saw was $61. Might be worth it then again

 

Nate

Sarah Jean

1980 CC 30-1

headed for the St. Croix River

 

and

Adagio

1994 Tartan 31

Lake Superior

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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread William Hall via CnC-List
Sure looks like a crack in the pictures.  Try a dye penetrant perhaps if
you can't tell for sure?

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I had a rigging inspection about a month ago, rigger says everything is
 fine with the exception of a couple of small things I can sort out myself.
 Nothing to worry about otherwise. Great I thought

 Mast comes down for the winter up here. This year I removed spreaders and
 all rigging so I could have this inspection done thoroughly and so I could
 replace any cotter pins etc. Also easier to store the mast without the
 spreaders and rod rigging.

 So I'm putting it all back together yesterday in preparation for crane
 time on Friday and I notice that the fitting that connects the cap shroud
 to the spreader is cracked .. I think. I'm going to try to link the images
 inline, if you don't see them click the links at the end:


 Um, is this going to be a problem? Looking at it I kind of think yes ..
 which is a bummer, man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Vlt-lpVOY. I'm
 perplexed that the rigging guy didn't notice it or mention it if he did.

 Thoughts?
 I'm thinking that maybe the sawing action of that fitting rubbing against
 it's neighbours (three pieces of rod come together at the spreader tip on
 my rig, all the pieces are sandwiched and this guy is in the middle) just
 caused some scoring, but that it's not a crack. If I thought for sure this
 was a crack I wouldn't be asking the question. I don't want to shorten our
 short sailing season and I'de like to get the stick pointing skyward asap.
 Maybe I should just trust the rigger .. I did email him but so far no
 response.


 Thanks,
 Steve
 Suhana, CC 32

 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/1.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/2.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/3.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/4.jpg





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Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
Hi All,

I had a rigging inspection about a month ago, rigger says everything is
fine with the exception of a couple of small things I can sort out myself.
Nothing to worry about otherwise. Great I thought

Mast comes down for the winter up here. This year I removed spreaders and
all rigging so I could have this inspection done thoroughly and so I could
replace any cotter pins etc. Also easier to store the mast without the
spreaders and rod rigging.

So I'm putting it all back together yesterday in preparation for crane time
on Friday and I notice that the fitting that connects the cap shroud to the
spreader is cracked .. I think. I'm going to try to link the images inline,
if you don't see them click the links at the end:


Um, is this going to be a problem? Looking at it I kind of think yes ..
which is a bummer, man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Vlt-lpVOY. I'm
perplexed that the rigging guy didn't notice it or mention it if he did.

Thoughts?
I'm thinking that maybe the sawing action of that fitting rubbing against
it's neighbours (three pieces of rod come together at the spreader tip on
my rig, all the pieces are sandwiched and this guy is in the middle) just
caused some scoring, but that it's not a crack. If I thought for sure this
was a crack I wouldn't be asking the question. I don't want to shorten our
short sailing season and I'de like to get the stick pointing skyward asap.
Maybe I should just trust the rigger .. I did email him but so far no
response.


Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, CC 32

http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/1.jpg
http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/2.jpg
http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/3.jpg
http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/4.jpg
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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
So this is about the shrouds that go all the way to the top from the
spreader tips, correct? Those are important shrouds, moreso than the
intermediates on your 32.  You could use dye penetrant yourself whcih is an
aid to the naked eye for such inspections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye_penetrant_inspection

search dye penetrant to find products you could use...if any of these marks
are cracks you will get better information from dye penetrant analysis




Dwight Veinot
CC 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I had a rigging inspection about a month ago, rigger says everything is
 fine with the exception of a couple of small things I can sort out myself.
 Nothing to worry about otherwise. Great I thought

 Mast comes down for the winter up here. This year I removed spreaders and
 all rigging so I could have this inspection done thoroughly and so I could
 replace any cotter pins etc. Also easier to store the mast without the
 spreaders and rod rigging.

 So I'm putting it all back together yesterday in preparation for crane
 time on Friday and I notice that the fitting that connects the cap shroud
 to the spreader is cracked .. I think. I'm going to try to link the images
 inline, if you don't see them click the links at the end:


 Um, is this going to be a problem? Looking at it I kind of think yes ..
 which is a bummer, man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Vlt-lpVOY. I'm
 perplexed that the rigging guy didn't notice it or mention it if he did.

 Thoughts?
 I'm thinking that maybe the sawing action of that fitting rubbing against
 it's neighbours (three pieces of rod come together at the spreader tip on
 my rig, all the pieces are sandwiched and this guy is in the middle) just
 caused some scoring, but that it's not a crack. If I thought for sure this
 was a crack I wouldn't be asking the question. I don't want to shorten our
 short sailing season and I'de like to get the stick pointing skyward asap.
 Maybe I should just trust the rigger .. I did email him but so far no
 response.


 Thanks,
 Steve
 Suhana, CC 32

 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/1.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/2.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/3.jpg
 http://webspace.ocad.ca/~splavsa/images/Sailing/Rig/4.jpg





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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
You can use a dye penetrant (available from Grainger, Fastenal, etc.) to 
confirm it is a crack.

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
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messing about in boats.  --Kenneth Grahame

 On May 12, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Agreed.  Have your rigger make up a wire shroud so you can get back on the 
 water.  The consequences of if being wrong about it just being scored are too 
 great.
 
 Joel
 
 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Stelios via CnC-List 
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 Yes
 
 
 Um, is this going to be a problem? 
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Stelios via CnC-List

 
 Yes
 
 
 Um, is this going to be a problem? 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Rig - crack?

2015-05-12 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Agreed.  Have your rigger make up a wire shroud so you can get back on the
water.  The consequences of if being wrong about it just being scored are
too great.

Joel

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 Um, is this going to be a problem?



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Re: Stus-List Overheating as high RPM only

2015-05-12 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
It must be something to do with that area. We sucked a fish into the engine
water intake while anchored in Smuggler Cove, running the engine to charge
batteries. I'll keep the crushed taco chip idea in mind.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 11 May 2015 at 22:42, Rick Rohwer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Hi Russ,
 I don’t know if sardines eat corn chips, but I love a good ceremony!
 After this incident, I was very suspicious of the moon jellies when we were
 anchored in Prideaux Haven.  They looked very suicidal! Do they go for
 corn chips as well?  Thanks for confirming this crazy behavior.  It was
 worth a good laugh!
 We invested in a first class aft shore tie line for this summer!  No more
 water ski ropes tied in series!  Not very seamanlike, but worked like a
 charm.
 Hope to see you this summer if you are around!  Still not sure if we can
 make the CC Rendezvous!

 Rick
 Paikea CC37+


 On May 11, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Russ  Melody via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:


  At 09:37 AM 06/05/2015, you wrote:

 On start up last summer departing Powell River our CC37+ Paikea started
 steaming as we motored toward Lund.  A lot of bad things can cause that
 change! I powered back to near idle and limped back into PR.   The belt
 looked fine, so then disassembled the impellor cover and replaced the
 impellor even though it looked sound.  I figured the next easy step would
 to be make sure I am getting supply so I started working toward the through
 hull.  Nothing but a trickle through any of the hoses.  It’s funny how
 you anticipate the worst case.   I removed the clamps on the through hull
 with the valve shut and pulled off the hose, and incredibly, could see a
 shiny head and two eyes.  A sardine had taken a head first plunge into our
 intake!  I opened the valve and a 3†fish shot into the bilge.  The trip
 had not gone well for him, but it sure had improved on my end!
 Cheers Rick Paikea   Poulsbo, WA



 What a coincidence.

 We had the same problem on *Sweet *many years ago in that area. Lund was
 the first instance and overheating occurs before getting past the
 breakwater. It became routine for us on that cruise to crush some taco
 chips over the port side, engine intake to starboard, and watch the little
 fish gather. Then start and get the heck out of the marina before any tried
 to make it into the water strainer.

 Good times.

 Cheers, Russ
  *Sweet*, 35 mk-1



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