Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
Hi Jonathan I made a similar change to a perko from Aquasignal 40 series fixture and replaced the bulb with LED.. Very simple. Look carefully at the entry of the wiring so that you don’t have a bottom entry if you have a different type. You need to make sure you have enough wire to connect the new fitting if not the same make. I redrilled a mounting hole. I think the AS25 is still available though and pretty reasonably priced. I just couldn’t find the replacement when needed so switched manufacturers. Rick Paikea 37+ On Aug 21, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Being totally ignorant on this topic, can someone tell me if there is an LED that fits the Aquasignal 25 stern light - and is it just a simple task of taking the old incandescent bulb out and replacing with the LED or something more complex? I need to replace the lens on my stern light - no replacement parts available so have to buy a complete unit and thought I might switch to LED at the same time. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 20, 2015, at 16:24, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I cannot say anything about your tricolour, but I have a white LED in the combination red/green bow light on my boat. It certainly shows the right colours through the lens. But this may (will?) depend on the lens and the LED. Marek From: Alex Giannelia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Alex Giannelia mailto:a...@airsensing.com Subject: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? So, I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can insert a replacement LED trilight. I understand that with the narrow spectrum range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb. What have others done for their masthead tri-lights? Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com mailto:a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
Being totally ignorant on this topic, can someone tell me if there is an LED that fits the Aquasignal 25 stern light - and is it just a simple task of taking the old incandescent bulb out and replacing with the LED or something more complex? I need to replace the lens on my stern light - no replacement parts available so have to buy a complete unit and thought I might switch to LED at the same time. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 20, 2015, at 16:24, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I cannot say anything about your tricolour, but I have a white LED in the combination red/green bow light on my boat. It certainly shows the right colours through the lens. But this may (will?) depend on the lens and the LED. Marek From: Alex Giannelia via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Alex Giannelia Subject: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? So, I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can insert a replacement LED trilight. I understand that with the narrow spectrum range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb. What have others done for their masthead tri-lights? Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
http://store.marinebeam.com/44mm-festoon-led-navigation-light-dimpled-barrel-end-aqua-signal-type/ I prefer the look of the warm white in all white bulb applications despite a reported slight reduction in visibility. Josh On Aug 21, 2015 10:33 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Being totally ignorant on this topic, can someone tell me if there is an LED that fits the Aquasignal 25 stern light - and is it just a simple task of taking the old incandescent bulb out and replacing with the LED or something more complex? I need to replace the lens on my stern light - no replacement parts available so have to buy a complete unit and thought I might switch to LED at the same time. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 20, 2015, at 16:24, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I cannot say anything about your tricolour, but I have a white LED in the combination red/green bow light on my boat. It certainly shows the right colours through the lens. But this may (will?) depend on the lens and the LED. Marek *From:* Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:12 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com *Subject:* Stus-List Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? So, I recently installed a PERKO masthead tri-light and want to know if one can insert a replacement LED trilight. I understand that with the narrow spectrum range of some LED’s, I might not be able to insert a replacement white light LED but would need some kind of tri-light bulb. What have others done for their masthead tri-lights? Thanks, Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com (416) 203-9858 -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
How Old? Still have its original shape? Bill Coleman CC 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:42 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is. Its taken me to Bermuda and Newport. Sadly, it is reaching the end of its useful life. That's no reflection on the workmanship or materials. Sounds like you made a smart choice! Joel 35/3 Annapolis ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Was LED's - now marinebeam.com
I have more than just LED replacement bulbs from marinebeam.com. To Joe's point about showing masthead lights and being hit by a powerboat - when anchored, in addition to a masthead all around white anchor light, I hang one of these from the boom so I show an anchor light more at a power boater's eye level. http://store.marinebeam.com/utility-led-anchor-light-with-dusk-to-dawn-photocell-sensor/ I also have one of their handheld spotlights and think it's really good. http://store.marinebeam.com/marinebeam-ultra-long-range-cree-rlt-illuminator/ No affiliation with them, just a satisfied customer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is. Its taken me to Bermuda and Newport. Sadly, it is reaching the end of its useful life. That's no reflection on the workmanship or materials. Sounds like you made a smart choice! Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I too have worked with Stuart and the gang at UK Sails. I had them make a sail lazy cradle and lazy jacks for me. They also did some repairs on some older sails. The workmanship was very good! They were great to talk to and easy to deal with. I enjoy being able to drop by and ask questions and get good advice. And they have a big ass racing boat :-) *Bill Hoyne* Mithrandir ’74 CC35 MkII in Victoria,BC On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers I know I should have asked you all before taking action and I am certain that someone out there will have a better solution...that said, I am pleased to announce that I pulled the trigger on new sails for Alera. The PO installed a Schaefer In Boom furler but went cheap on the mylar sails to go with it. They were ~15 years old and both sails have been in for repairs every year for the past two years. The main was actually not made correctly to the stringent Schaefer specs and the Genoa was to the point of disintegration along the leech. Aout four days into our annual three week sailing trip, the leech detached from the Genoa (again). We called ahead and pulled into the Van Isle marina in Sidney BC and right up to the dock at UK sail loft to get the genny repaired. They fixed it and even gave us an overnight berth with power and everything. I met Suart Dahlgren, the owner. He had been the tech talk presenter at the CC RDV a few years ago and was familiar with the boat. He is also very knowledgeable. What started as a discussion about possibly getting a new Genoa ultimately turned into deal for both primary sails. The Mainsail was never done right and at its end of life. Of course, the cost was a huge impediment to doing it. But Stu gave a sweet 15% discount of each sail and an additional 5% for getting both...but the real clincher was the 0.75 USD to CAD exchange rate, which amounted to an additional 25%. Lynn and I talked it over, slept on it and were unanimous on going for it! :D Since I need thin sails to fit the boom when furled we went to a set of UK Tape-Drive Cruising sales. They're due for delivery in October. I'll let you all know if they are as good as I hope. Tom B Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
Funny little story about Butch Ulmer...the U in UK. Many many moons ago, when I was 12, I stepped aboard a 1972 C C 35 (the owner went on to buy a 38 on which I crewed and then a 40, by which time I had moved on to girls, cars and beer) as a Foredeck Ape. We had a full set of Ulmer Sails (the predecessor company to UK Sails) so naturally Butch was aboard a number of times to look over the sails. Well one day he was opining on such and such and, I, in my most know-it-all-teenager-way said he was wrong. And I kept insisting on it. Finally Butch looks at me and says Boy, I have squeezed more seawater outta my socks than you have been over... I shut up. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:42:17 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: joel.aron...@gmail.com I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is. Its taken me to Bermuda and Newport.Sadly, it is reaching the end of its useful life. That's no reflection on the workmanship or materials. Sounds like you made a smart choice! Joel35/3Annapolis On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I too have worked with Stuart and the gang at UK Sails. I had them make a sail lazy cradle and lazy jacks for me. They also did some repairs on some older sails. The workmanship was very good! They were great to talk to and easy to deal with. I enjoy being able to drop by and ask questions and get good advice. And they have a big ass racing boat :-) Bill HoyneMithrandir’74 CC35 MkIIin Victoria,BC On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers I know I should have asked you all before taking action and I am certain that someone out there will have a better solution...that said, I am pleased to announce that I pulled the trigger on new sails for Alera. The PO installed a Schaefer In Boom furler but went cheap on the mylar sails to go with it. They were ~15 years old and both sails have been in for repairs every year for the past two years. The main was actually not made correctly to the stringent Schaefer specs and the Genoa was to the point of disintegration along the leech. Aout four days into our annual three week sailing trip, the leech detached from the Genoa (again). We called ahead and pulled into the Van Isle marina in Sidney BC and right up to the dock at UK sail loft to get the genny repaired. They fixed it and even gave us an overnight berth with power and everything. I met Suart Dahlgren, the owner. He had been the tech talk presenter at the CC RDV a few years ago and was familiar with the boat. He is also very knowledgeable. What started as a discussion about possibly getting a new Genoa ultimately turned into deal for both primary sails. The Mainsail was never done right and at its end of life. Of course, the cost was a huge impediment to doing it. But Stu gave a sweet 15% discount of each sail and an additional 5% for getting both...but the real clincher was the 0.75 USD to CAD exchange rate, which amounted to an additional 25%. Lynn and I talked it over, slept on it and were unanimous on going for it! :D Since I need thin sails to fit the boom when furled we went to a set of UK Tape-Drive Cruising sales. They're due for delivery in October. I'll let you all know if they are as good as I hope. Tom B Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
I too have worked with Stuart and the gang at UK Sails. I had them make a sail lazy cradle and lazy jacks for me. They also did some repairs on some older sails. The workmanship was very good! They were great to talk to and easy to deal with. I enjoy being able to drop by and ask questions and get good advice. And they have a big ass racing boat :-) Bill Hoyne Mithrandir ’74 CC35 MkII in Victoria,BC On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers I know I should have asked you all before taking action and I am certain that someone out there will have a better solution...that said, I am pleased to announce that I pulled the trigger on new sails for Alera. The PO installed a Schaefer In Boom furler but went cheap on the mylar sails to go with it. They were ~15 years old and both sails have been in for repairs every year for the past two years. The main was actually not made correctly to the stringent Schaefer specs and the Genoa was to the point of disintegration along the leech. Aout four days into our annual three week sailing trip, the leech detached from the Genoa (again). We called ahead and pulled into the Van Isle marina in Sidney BC and right up to the dock at UK sail loft to get the genny repaired. They fixed it and even gave us an overnight berth with power and everything. I met Suart Dahlgren, the owner. He had been the tech talk presenter at the CC RDV a few years ago and was familiar with the boat. He is also very knowledgeable. What started as a discussion about possibly getting a new Genoa ultimately turned into deal for both primary sails. The Mainsail was never done right and at its end of life. Of course, the cost was a huge impediment to doing it. But Stu gave a sweet 15% discount of each sail and an additional 5% for getting both...but the real clincher was the 0.75 USD to CAD exchange rate, which amounted to an additional 25%. Lynn and I talked it over, slept on it and were unanimous on going for it! :D Since I need thin sails to fit the boom when furled we went to a set of UK Tape-Drive Cruising sales. They're due for delivery in October. I'll let you all know if they are as good as I hope. Tom B Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com http://www.sv-alera.com/___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sound Proofing
My CC was built during the same year and better products have come on the market since. I'll be following this thread, but save that project for winter. I hope you don't miss sailing your new boat while making improvements. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Gary Russell captnga...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:45:04 AM Subject: Stus-List Sound Proofing I recently purchased a CC 37 Plus and the pathetic sound insulation in the engine enclosure was disintegrating, so I ripped it all out. Now the question is, what to replace it with. I am considering Soundown products. An opinions out there? What should I use? Gary S/V High Maintenance '90 CC 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~ _ / ) ~~ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
I don’t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos. Wonder how much was fixed? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. the price is rediculous. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 but as I was researching the boat i found this. http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. not that that is necessarily a bad thing... it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Subject: Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
Warm white LEDs do OK behind a colored lens, but the usual cold white (5000-6000K) LEDs do NOT work for red or green running lights. The noise issue is caused by the switch-mode driver for the LEDs that produces a ton of RF. I have a bunch of FleaBay special LED light in my cabin lights and most of them are quiet on RF and one or two make a mess out of the SSB. There is a lot online you can find about various LED tricolors being noisy or not. For a replacement bulb, you might just have to go through a few and test them before you go up the mast. I have been thinking about trying to make LED red over greens, since they can used with the deck lights and the tricolor cannot. Here on the Chesapeake running under just a tricolor is a very good way to get run over by a powerboat. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 7:24 PM To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? I get my LED's from marinebeam.com http://marinebeam.com . My impression is they are superior to Dr. LED. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed LED's all around on my boat and had no issues with the running lights or anchor light. The 3 color tricolor from Dr. LED was another story. It produced noise on the VHR radio (antenna is no more than 1 foot from the tricolor) making VHF unusable with the tricolor on.. I tried a variety of RF chokes on it but it did not improve so I went back to an incandescent bulb. The issue was clearly with the 3 color LED bulb as we have no issue with the LED white anchor bulb which is mounted in the same housing as the tri-color. Jon CC 44 Mor' Childs Play Kingston ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Subject: Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED?
Another POV, I have heard a lot of discussion about this over the years, both ways, (White vs. Colored) but just a month ago I replaced several lites using Marinebeam. I talked to the fellow there about colors, and he told me using a white light behind a colored lens only allowed around 30% of the light through, and using, say red behind a red lens allowed 80% through. I decided to follow his advice and going back and forth between white and red was a dramatic difference, the red behind red became bright blood red. Not sure I got the Percentages right, but Now I believe this. I agree with Dennis, nice company, good stuff. Bill Coleman CC 39 Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della Barba via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:15 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joe Della Barba Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? Warm white LEDs do OK behind a colored lens, but the usual cold white (5000-6000K) LEDs do NOT work for red or green running lights. The noise issue is caused by the switch-mode driver for the LEDs that produces a ton of RF. I have a bunch of FleaBay special LED light in my cabin lights and most of them are quiet on RF and one or two make a mess out of the SSB. There is a lot online you can find about various LED tricolors being noisy or not. For a replacement bulb, you might just have to go through a few and test them before you go up the mast. I have been thinking about trying to make LED red over greens, since they can used with the deck lights and the tricolor cannot. Here on the Chesapeake running under just a tricolor is a very good way to get run over by a powerboat. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 7:24 PM To: CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: Was Wire Gauge, now Where can I get LED? I get my LED's from marinebeam.com. My impression is they are superior to Dr. LED. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed LED's all around on my boat and had no issues with the running lights or anchor light. The 3 color tricolor from Dr. LED was another story. It produced noise on the VHR radio (antenna is no more than 1 foot from the tricolor) making VHF unusable with the tricolor on.. I tried a variety of RF chokes on it but it did not improve so I went back to an incandescent bulb. The issue was clearly with the 3 color LED bulb as we have no issue with the LED white anchor bulb which is mounted in the same housing as the tri-color. Jon CC 44 Mor' Childs Play Kingston ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
Bill, Beats me how old. It came from another 35/3 owner on the list. I've put 3,000 miles on it the last 2 seasons, and it shows. Shape has not changed, but the luff is worn/has small holes. I had repairs done last year. No delamination luckily. The sail is fine on the Bay, but I would not go offshore with it. In my very limited experience, when laminate sails fail, they fail completely. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: How Old? Still have its original shape? Bill Coleman CC 39 Erie, PA *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson via CnC-List *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 9:42 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Joel Aronson *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is. Its taken me to Bermuda and Newport. Sadly, it is reaching the end of its useful life. That's no reflection on the workmanship or materials. Sounds like you made a smart choice! Joel 35/3 Annapolis ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
Ha ha - Reminds me of Foghorn Leghorn. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/292734044504512014/ Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 10:33 AM To: CNC CNC Cc: David Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera Funny little story about Butch Ulmer...the U in UK. Many many moons ago, when I was 12, I stepped aboard a 1972 C C 35 (the owner went on to buy a 38 on which I crewed and then a 40, by which time I had moved on to girls, cars and beer) as a Foredeck Ape. We had a full set of Ulmer Sails (the predecessor company to UK Sails) so naturally Butch was aboard a number of times to look over the sails. Well one day he was opining on such and such and, I, in my most know-it-all-teenager-way said he was wrong. And I kept insisting on it. Finally Butch looks at me and says Boy, I have squeezed more seawater outta my socks than you have been over... I shut up. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) _ Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:42:17 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: joel.aron...@gmail.com I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is. Its taken me to Bermuda and Newport. Sadly, it is reaching the end of its useful life. That's no reflection on the workmanship or materials. Sounds like you made a smart choice! Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I too have worked with Stuart and the gang at UK Sails. I had them make a sail lazy cradle and lazy jacks for me. They also did some repairs on some older sails. The workmanship was very good! They were great to talk to and easy to deal with. I enjoy being able to drop by and ask questions and get good advice. And they have a big ass racing boat :-) Bill Hoyne Mithrandir '74 CC35 MkII in Victoria,BC On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers I know I should have asked you all before taking action and I am certain that someone out there will have a better solution...that said, I am pleased to announce that I pulled the trigger on new sails for Alera. The PO installed a Schaefer In Boom furler but went cheap on the mylar sails to go with it. They were ~15 years old and both sails have been in for repairs every year for the past two years. The main was actually not made correctly to the stringent Schaefer specs and the Genoa was to the point of disintegration along the leech. Aout four days into our annual three week sailing trip, the leech detached from the Genoa (again). We called ahead and pulled into the Van Isle marina in Sidney BC and right up to the dock at UK sail loft to get the genny repaired. They fixed it and even gave us an overnight berth with power and everything. I met Suart Dahlgren, the owner. He had been the tech talk presenter at the CC RDV a few years ago and was familiar with the boat. He is also very knowledgeable. What started as a discussion about possibly getting a new Genoa ultimately turned into deal for both primary sails. The Mainsail was never done right and at its end of life. Of course, the cost was a huge impediment to doing it. But Stu gave a sweet 15% discount of each sail and an additional 5% for getting both...but the real clincher was the 0.75 USD to CAD exchange rate, which amounted to an additional 25%. Lynn and I talked it over, slept on it and were unanimous on going for it! :D Since I need thin sails to fit the boom when furled we went to a set of UK Tape-Drive Cruising sales. They're due for delivery in October. I'll let you all know if they are as good as I hope. Tom B Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com http://www.sv-alera.com/ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ulmer story
Great story. - Original Message - From: David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC CNC cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David davidrisc...@msn.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 10:32:45 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera Funny little story about Butch Ulmer...the U in UK. Many many moons ago, when I was 12, I stepped aboard a 1972 C C 35 (the owner went on to buy a 38 on which I crewed and then a 40, by which time I had moved on to girls, cars and beer) as a Foredeck Ape. We had a full set of Ulmer Sails (the predecessor company to UK Sails) so naturally Butch was aboard a number of times to look over the sails. Well one day he was opining on such and such and, I, in my most know-it-all-teenager-way said he was wrong. And I kept insisting on it. Finally Butch looks at me and says Boy, I have squeezed more seawater outta my socks than you have been over... I shut up. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:42:17 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: joel.aron...@gmail.com I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is. Its taken me to Bermuda and Newport. Sadly, it is reaching the end of its useful life. That's no reflection on the workmanship or materials. Sounds like you made a smart choice! Joel 35/3 Annapolis ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sound Proofing
Gary, Take a look at: http://www.sailorssolutions.com/index.asp?page=ProductDetails http://www.sailorssolutions.com/index.asp?page=ProductDetailsItem=SPM01 Item=SPM01 I replaced my disintegrating sound insulation with this stuff and am happy with it. If we get to the boat this weekend, I’ll send you a couple of photos. Regards, Ron Ron Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com From: Gary Russell [mailto:captnga...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:45 AM To: CC List Subject: Stus-List Sound Proofing I recently purchased a CC 37 Plus and the pathetic sound insulation in the engine enclosure was disintegrating, so I ripped it all out. Now the question is, what to replace it with. I am considering Soundown products. An opinions out there? What should I use? Gary S/V High Maintenance '90 CC 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there. I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don’t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos. Wonder how much was fixed? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. the price is rediculous. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 but as I was researching the boat i found this. http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. not that that is necessarily a bad thing... it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+
just take the tank to a local walmart and exchange for a new one. jim -Original Message- From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 9:29 am Subject: Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+ Those marine grade tanks aren't cheap so if it is out of date or doesn't have a OPD, don't throw it away. An inspection or OPD retrofit would probably be well worth it. Josh On Aug 20, 2015 8:26 AM, Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, propane. Liquefied Propane Gas to be exact. A grill tank should cost about $10-12 to get filled. From empty. Try to find a place that will only charge you for the amount you buy by weight. Some places just charge a flat fee regardless of how much was left in your tank before filling. My local ACE Hardware has good prices and only charges for what it took to fill me up. I think the standard grill tanks are 20# and the little green ones for your lanters are 1#. A lot of the aluminum marine grade tanks are about half that. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Aug 20, 2015 8:09 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, I think this was covered in the past, but I'm getting older and I forgot the answer. In my 37+, I have a tank labelled LPG for my stove. I need to get it refilled. Is this propane? The same propane used for bbq grills? Or is LPG something a little different? All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
Okay, but in the end who was correct? you the teen or Butch the waterlogged :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35-1 At 07:32 AM 21/08/2015, you wrote: Funny little story about Butch Ulmer...the U in UK. Many many moons ago, when I was 12, I stepped aboard a 1972 C C 35 (the owner went on to buy a 38 on which I crewed and then a 40, by which time I had moved on to girls, cars and beer) as a Foredeck Ape. We had a full set of Ulmer Sails (the predecessor company to UK Sails) so naturally Butch was aboard a number of times to look over the sails. Well one day he was opining on such and such and, I, in my most know-it-all-teenager-way said he was wrong. And I kept insisting on it. Finally Butch looks at me and says Boy, I have squeezed more seawater outta my socks than you have been over... I shut up. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive... Danny -- Original Message -- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:59:52 GMT I just tried the listing link from within Ebay and my sent message. I got; This listing (201411407045) has been removed, or this item is not available. -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:02:11 -0400 Next stop: craigslist! On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gone. Tried a number of different ways. Hopefully some romantic sailor out there doesn't get snookered. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:It doesnrsquo;t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. From: S Thomas via CnC-ListSent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: S ThomasSubject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar tobut the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve ThomasCC27 MKIIIPort Stanley, ON - Original Message -From: Danny Haughey via CnC-ListTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Danny HaugheySent: Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.#65533; I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:I don#65533;t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.#65533; Wonder how much was fixed? #65533; From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay #65533; Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. #65533;the price is rediculous. #65533; http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 #65533; but as I was researching the boat i found this. #65533; http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. #65533;I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. #65533; not that that is necessarily a bad thing... #65533;it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
I'm seeing a pattern! http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAPWORTH-JENSEN-WORLD-CRUISER-For-Pennies-on-The-Dollar-NO-RESERVE-Xlnt-4-Couple-/201314971076 Danny -- Original Message -- From: Rick Taillieu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:25:05 -0300 A quick Google search turned up this listing posted yesterday. http://www.usedboats4sale.us/detail/Used-1983-C-C-Landfall-World-Cruiser/vUJahUkhUkzvaJJeeheV.html Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: August-21-15 17:11 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive... Danny -- Original Message -- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:59:52 GMT I just tried the listing link from within Ebay and my sent message. I got; This listing (201411407045) has been removed, or this item is not available. -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:02:11 -0400 Next stop: craigslist! On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gone. Tried a number of different ways. Hopefully some romantic sailor out there doesn't get snookered. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It doesnrsquo;t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. From: S Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar to but the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23 Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.#65533; I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don#65533;t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.#65533; Wonder how much was fixed? #65533; From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay #65533; Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. #65533;the price is rediculous. #65533; http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 #65533; but as I was researching the boat i found this. #65533; http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. #65533;I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. #65533; not that that is necessarily a bad thing... #65533;it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
lol I wrote to the salvage guy and he wrote back. I sold it to a guy from Colorado, he drove out to Boston, fixed the hull and rudder, and was going to place it in the waterhellip;.Then I think he was going to resell ? Try to call him : William 970-319-4361 I think this guy buys salvaged boats and flys out and fixes them and then sells them on a let the buyer beware format. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 20:44:53 GMT I'm seeing a pattern! http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAPWORTH-JENSEN-WORLD-CRUISER-For-Pennies-on-The-Dollar-NO-RESERVE-Xlnt-4-Couple-/201314971076 Danny -- Original Message -- From: Rick Taillieu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:25:05 -0300 A quick Google search turned up this listing posted yesterday. http://www.usedboats4sale.us/detail/Used-1983-C-C-Landfall-World-Cruiser/vUJahUkhUkzvaJJeeheV.html Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: August-21-15 17:11 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive... Danny -- Original Message -- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:59:52 GMT I just tried the listing link from within Ebay and my sent message. I got; This listing (201411407045) has been removed, or this item is not available. -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:02:11 -0400 Next stop: craigslist! On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gone. Tried a number of different ways. Hopefully some romantic sailor out there doesn't get snookered. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It doesnrsquo;t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. From: S Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar to but the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23 Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.#65533; I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don#65533;t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.#65533; Wonder how much was fixed? #65533; From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay #65533; Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. #65533;the price is rediculous. #65533;
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Just tried viewing ebay listing. It was pulled. Guess it was a fraud.
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.
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2015 05:19To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Hoyt, Mike;Subject:Re: Stus-List Stus
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I don’t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos. Wonder how
much was fixed? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf
Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List
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HarrySent from my iPhone
On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:I just saw this. the price is rediculous.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045
but as I was researching the boat i found this.
http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photosit has to be the same
boat. I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping
it. not that that is necessarily a bad thing... it just needs a really good
survey...___
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Re: Stus-List New Sails for Alera
2001 I think Joel - it was on Mojito when I bought her 7 years ago. That's a pretty good life for a main! Tim On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is. Its taken me to Bermuda and Newport. Sadly, it is reaching the end of its useful life. That's no reflection on the workmanship or materials. Sounds like you made a smart choice! Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I too have worked with Stuart and the gang at UK Sails. I had them make a sail lazy cradle and lazy jacks for me. They also did some repairs on some older sails. The workmanship was very good! They were great to talk to and easy to deal with. I enjoy being able to drop by and ask questions and get good advice. And they have a big ass racing boat :-) Bill Hoyne Mithrandir ’74 CC35 MkII in Victoria,BC On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers I know I should have asked you all before taking action and I am certain that someone out there will have a better solution...that said, I am pleased to announce that I pulled the trigger on new sails for Alera. The PO installed a Schaefer In Boom furler but went cheap on the mylar sails to go with it. They were ~15 years old and both sails have been in for repairs every year for the past two years. The main was actually not made correctly to the stringent Schaefer specs and the Genoa was to the point of disintegration along the leech. Aout four days into our annual three week sailing trip, the leech detached from the Genoa (again). We called ahead and pulled into the Van Isle marina in Sidney BC and right up to the dock at UK sail loft to get the genny repaired. They fixed it and even gave us an overnight berth with power and everything. I met Suart Dahlgren, the owner. He had been the tech talk presenter at the CC RDV a few years ago and was familiar with the boat. He is also very knowledgeable. What started as a discussion about possibly getting a new Genoa ultimately turned into deal for both primary sails. The Mainsail was never done right and at its end of life. Of course, the cost was a huge impediment to doing it. But Stu gave a sweet 15% discount of each sail and an additional 5% for getting both...but the real clincher was the 0.75 USD to CAD exchange rate, which amounted to an additional 25%. Lynn and I talked it over, slept on it and were unanimous on going for it! :D Since I need thin sails to fit the boom when furled we went to a set of UK Tape-Drive Cruising sales. They're due for delivery in October. I'll let you all know if they are as good as I hope. Tom B Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
A quick Google search turned up this listing posted yesterday. http://www.usedboats4sale.us/detail/Used-1983-C-C-Landfall-World-Cruiser/vUJahUkhUkzvaJJeeheV.html Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: August-21-15 17:11 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive... Danny -- Original Message -- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:59:52 GMT I just tried the listing link from within Ebay and my sent message. I got; This listing (201411407045) has been removed, or this item is not available. -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:02:11 -0400 Next stop: craigslist! On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gone. Tried a number of different ways. Hopefully some romantic sailor out there doesn't get snookered. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It doesn’t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. From: S Thomas via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas mailto:sthom...@bellnet.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar to but the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey mailto:djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23 Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.� I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don�t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.� Wonder how much was fixed? � From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay � Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. �the price is rediculous. � http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=true http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 hash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 � but as I was researching the boat i found this. � http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. �I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. � not that that is necessarily a bad thing... �it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
I just tried the listing link from within Ebay and my sent message. I got; This listing (201411407045) has been removed, or this item is not available. -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:02:11 -0400 Next stop: craigslist! On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gone. Tried a number of different ways. Hopefully some romantic sailor out there doesn't get snookered. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:It doesnrsquo;t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. From: S Thomas via CnC-ListSent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: S ThomasSubject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar tobut the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve ThomasCC27 MKIIIPort Stanley, ON - Original Message -From: Danny Haughey via CnC-ListTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Danny HaugheySent: Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.#65533; I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:I don#65533;t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.#65533; Wonder how much was fixed? #65533; From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay #65533; Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. #65533;the price is rediculous. #65533; http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 #65533; but as I was researching the boat i found this. #65533; http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. #65533;I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. #65533; not that that is necessarily a bad thing... #65533;it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
It doesn’t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. From: S Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar to but the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23 Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.� I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don�t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.� Wonder how much was fixed? � From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay � Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. �the price is rediculous. � http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 � but as I was researching the boat i found this. � http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. �I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. � not that that is necessarily a bad thing... �it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.#65533; I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:I don#65533;t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.#65533; Wonder how much was fixed? #65533; From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay #65533; Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. #65533;the price is rediculous. #65533; http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 #65533; but as I was researching the boat i found this. #65533; http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. #65533;I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. #65533; not that that is necessarily a bad thing... #65533;it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar to but the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23 Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.� I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don�t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.� Wonder how much was fixed? � From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay � Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. �the price is rediculous. � http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 � but as I was researching the boat i found this. � http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. �I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. � not that that is necessarily a bad thing... �it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
Interesting - I just tried to go back to the listing and its not coming up. Can't find in on a quick search -- seems the challenge questions may have scared him off to find easier pickings elsewhere There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 2015-08-21 2:23 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote: I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List" cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.� I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don�t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.� Wonder how much was fixed? � From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry Hallgring Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay � Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. �the price is rediculous. � http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 � but as I was researching the boat i found this. � http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. �I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. � not that that is necessarily a bad thing... �it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sound Proofing
I used SoundDown and got the kit from Jamestown distributing. It was a nice improvement but the sound still gets out from the floor panels in front of the stairs and over the shaft. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Aug 21, 2015 5:45 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I recently purchased a CC 37 Plus and the pathetic sound insulation in the engine enclosure was disintegrating, so I ripped it all out. Now the question is, what to replace it with. I am considering Soundown products. An opinions out there? What should I use? Gary S/V High Maintenance '90 CC 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
Next stop: craigslist! On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gone. Tried a number of different ways. Hopefully some romantic sailor out there doesn't get snookered. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It doesn’t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. *From:* S Thomas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* S Thomas sthom...@bellnet.ca *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar to but the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - *From:* Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.� I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don�t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.� Wonder how much was fixed? � *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Harry Hallgring via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Harry Hallgring *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay � Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. �the price is rediculous. � http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 � but as I was researching the boat i found this. � http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. �I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. � not that that is necessarily a bad thing... �it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
Gone. Tried a number of different ways. Hopefully some romantic sailor out there doesn't get snookered. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It doesn’t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. *From:* S Thomas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* S Thomas sthom...@bellnet.ca *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar to but the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - *From:* Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.� I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don�t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.� Wonder how much was fixed? � *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Harry Hallgring via CnC-List *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Harry Hallgring *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay � Seems cheap? Harry Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 15:20, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just saw this. �the price is rediculous. � http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-C-C-WORLD-CRUISER-Ready-To-Sail-NO-RESERV-Offshore-Electronics-Package-/201411407045?forcerrptr=truehash=item2ee50e2cc5item=201411407045 � but as I was researching the boat i found this. � http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS140250.htm#photos it has to be the same boat. �I think someone bought the salvaged boat, fixed it up and is flipping it. � not that that is necessarily a bad thing... �it just needs a really good survey... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
The great thing about the Internet is that scammers like this can run but they can't hide. You can find a lot about someone if you know how to look and they don't cover their tracks perfectly. In this case the weak point is his phone number, which is basically a unique search key. Tracing that it appears that he's a sailboat flipper of sorts. I found a previous ad with *identical* text in places (the ALL CAPS stuff about please be an informed bidder, 24 hours deposit required, etc). He listed this Morgan Out Island 36 earlier this year, in Florida: http://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLY-SPACIOUS-GLOBAL-CRUISER-by-famous-yacht-maker-No-Reserve-Aft-Cabin-/201335429823 Someone on cruisersforum noticed it, but there was no commentary on it (last post here): http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/ebay-sailboat-scam-143861-2.html Also a Cal 34 in Virginia which sold for $6.3k: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAPWORTH-JENSEN-WORLD-CRUISER-For-Pennies-on-The-Dollar-NO-RESERVE-Xlnt-4-Couple-/201314971076 He has a neutral ebay review from a year+ ago which said: caveat emptor. Boat was not ready to put in the water and sail for a listing of SERIOUS BLUE WATER OCEAN CRUISER No Res - New York City (#200361465706) which sold for $1425. Oh and he flips motor boats too: http://www.boats4sale.pro/detail/us/OHnFCCdmndHnCeFCPHd/Rare-Opportunity-to-Own-a-20K-to-30K-SPORTS-CRUISER-w The Morgan OI listing has surprisingly extensive dialogue from him. So at least he's a good writer and seller of the cruising dream. Lots of gems in here which make me laugh: Every boat is a project boat. However, some boats are more project than boat. Buying a boat like this Out Island is for someone who wants to get to know their vessel like a cowboy knows his horse and saddle and six gun or like a surgeon knows the tools and machines in the surgery room. We adopt stray boats. We already have our own cruising sailboat and we don't need another for ourselves, but from experience and in our early cruising days before we were spending half our year directly in boat yards and marinas and exotic ports, we know how hard it is to find truly worth blue-water cruisers that can be purchased on a normal middle-class income. We are relatively young folks ourselves, and part of our passion is helping other young couples and families and middle class retired folks afford the cruising life-style. To purchase a boat where every single thing is already as it should be, would be a dis-service to the active sailor because it prevents you from getting to know how everything on your boat is set up and how it works. I don't know if the Morgan OI sale was a scam, in the way that the LF38 listing is clearly a scam (since the salvage is not disclosed). It appears he actually knows his stuff, or at least enough to quote much of Nigel Calder and cruisersforum. But there's certainly a lot of spin and marketing in there! -Patrick On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:24 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Danny Haughey via CnC-List *Sent:* August-21-15 17:11 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Danny Haughey *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive... Danny ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
Steve... You may be onto something... This sounds like a STUs-List fund raising project Don Life V34 Could be the next reality show – Flip that boat Steve Sharkey CC 37 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
It is almost impossible to leave negative feedback about any eBay purchase no matter how egregious the transaction. You simply won’t be allowed do it. Many frustrated buyers simply “plea-bargain” for Neutral so they can “move on”. I bought a How-To manual for a computer game once and only the package that it was packed in arrived. The manila envelope had been reused from a previous purchase and resealed with what appeared to be pancake syrup (or KY). The seller begged me, “in the name of Our Lord Jesus”, not to give him/her neutral feedback. BAH! Having said all that, I actually bought my CC 27 on eBay and love it. Now, if I can only stop the rain from leaking under the toe rails. The Westerbeke had to have a crack welded too. Oh, and the balsa has to be replaced where the roof was cracked; cosmetic stuff, really. Steve Staten “C’est La Vie” CC 27 Langley, OK From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Davin via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 4:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Patrick Davin Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay The great thing about the Internet is that scammers like this can run but they can't hide. You can find a lot about someone if you know how to look and they don't cover their tracks perfectly. In this case the weak point is his phone number, which is basically a unique search key. Tracing that it appears that he's a sailboat flipper of sorts. I found a previous ad with *identical* text in places (the ALL CAPS stuff about please be an informed bidder, 24 hours deposit required, etc). He listed this Morgan Out Island 36 earlier this year, in Florida: http://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLY-SPACIOUS-GLOBAL-CRUISER-by-famous-yacht-maker-No-Reserve-Aft-Cabin-/201335429823 Someone on cruisersforum noticed it, but there was no commentary on it (last post here): http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/ebay-sailboat-scam-143861-2.html Also a Cal 34 in Virginia which sold for $6.3k: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAPWORTH-JENSEN-WORLD-CRUISER-For-Pennies-on-The-Dollar-NO-RESERVE-Xlnt-4-Couple-/201314971076 He has a neutral ebay review from a year+ ago which said: caveat emptor. Boat was not ready to put in the water and sail for a listing of SERIOUS BLUE WATER OCEAN CRUISER No Res - New York City (#200361465706) which sold for $1425. Oh and he flips motor boats too: http://www.boats4sale.pro/detail/us/OHnFCCdmndHnCeFCPHd/Rare-Opportunity-to-Own-a-20K-to-30K-SPORTS-CRUISER-w The Morgan OI listing has surprisingly extensive dialogue from him. So at least he's a good writer and seller of the cruising dream. Lots of gems in here which make me laugh: Every boat is a project boat. However, some boats are more project than boat. Buying a boat like this Out Island is for someone who wants to get to know their vessel like a cowboy knows his horse and saddle and six gun or like a surgeon knows the tools and machines in the surgery room. We adopt stray boats. We already have our own cruising sailboat and we don't need another for ourselves, but from experience and in our early cruising days before we were spending half our year directly in boat yards and marinas and exotic ports, we know how hard it is to find truly worth blue-water cruisers that can be purchased on a normal middle-class income. We are relatively young folks ourselves, and part of our passion is helping other young couples and families and middle class retired folks afford the cruising life-style. To purchase a boat where every single thing is already as it should be, would be a dis-service to the active sailor because it prevents you from getting to know how everything on your boat is set up and how it works. I don't know if the Morgan OI sale was a scam, in the way that the LF38 listing is clearly a scam (since the salvage is not disclosed). It appears he actually knows his stuff, or at least enough to quote much of Nigel Calder and cruisersforum. But there's certainly a lot of spin and marketing in there! -Patrick On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:24 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: August-21-15 17:11 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive... Danny ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
… next reality show – Flip that boat That show was on some cable channel earlier this year. I watched a couple of episodes but it was mostly about fixing up / modifying trailerable boats into a unique custom flat water toy. The star guy was a country singer and the location was in SE USA. His crew of boat modifiers would not be allowed within 2 miles of Calypso. My guess is there will not be a second season. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of D Harben via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 3:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: D Harben Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Steve... You may be onto something... This sounds like a STUs-List fund raising project Don Life V34 Could be the next reality show – Flip that boat Steve Sharkey CC 37 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
Could be the next reality show – Flip that boat Steve Sharkey CC 37 From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay lol I wrote to the salvage guy and he wrote back. I sold it to a guy from Colorado, he drove out to Boston, fixed the hull and rudder, and was going to place it in the water….Then I think he was going to resell ? Try to call him : William 970-319-4361 I think this guy buys salvaged boats and flys out and fixes them and then sells them on a let the buyer beware format. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 20:44:53 GMT I'm seeing a pattern! http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAPWORTH-JENSEN-WORLD-CRUISER-For-Pennies-on-The-Dollar-NO-RESERVE-Xlnt-4-Couple-/201314971076 Danny -- Original Message -- From: Rick Taillieu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:25:05 -0300 A quick Google search turned up this listing posted yesterday. http://www.usedboats4sale.us/detail/Used-1983-C-C-Landfall-World-Cruiser/vUJahUkhUkzvaJJeeheV.html Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: August-21-15 17:11 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive... Danny -- Original Message -- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:59:52 GMT I just tried the listing link from within Ebay and my sent message. I got; This listing (201411407045) has been removed, or this item is not available. -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:02:11 -0400 Next stop: craigslist! On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gone. Tried a number of different ways. Hopefully some romantic sailor out there doesn't get snookered. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM Steve Sharkey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It doesn’t come up for me either. Seems to be gone. From: S Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I wrote him yesterday, and later complained to Ebay about the ad when I received no response. I can no longer see the listing, but it sounds like you guys can. All I get are a list of items similar to but the link still shows up in my list of recently viewed items. WTF? Is the listing gone, or has my access been removed and other people can still see it? Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 13:23 Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay I've written him on ebay and asked about the salvaged title, and whether or not he had receipts or photo documentation of the repairs. No reply yet... -- Original Message -- From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar drbod...@accesswave.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:40:09 -0300 I agree - if you zoom in on the photo the starboard stanchions are not there.� I'd bet he just patched the holes and is hoping nobody notices the missing stanchions. Not exactly a worldwide cruiser in that condition There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 2015-08-21 9:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: I don�t see any stbd lifeline or stanchions in the ebay photos.� Wonder how much was fixed? � From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Harry Hallgring via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Harry
Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
Always nice to hear the voice of reason Dan Grant 1970 corvette Ipswich Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: … next reality show – Flip that boat That show was on some cable channel earlier this year. I watched a couple of episodes but it was mostly about fixing up / modifying trailerable boats into a unique custom flat water toy. The star guy was a country singer and the location was in SE USA. His crew of boat modifiers would not be allowed within 2 miles of Calypso. My guess is there will not be a second season. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle image001.png From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of D Harben via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 3:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: D Harben Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay Steve... You may be onto something... This sounds like a STUs-List fund raising project Don Life V34 Could be the next reality show – Flip that boat Steve Sharkey CC 37 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List LPG tank -- 37+
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Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay
Ah! Just think of the creation that we might create with deck cows, turbo atomic 4, pulsing LED strings on the shrouds... Don V34 On Aug 21, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: His crew of boat modifiers would not be allowed within 2 miles of Calypso. My guess is there will not be a second season. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Sound Proofing
I recently purchased a CC 37 Plus and the pathetic sound insulation in the engine enclosure was disintegrating, so I ripped it all out. Now the question is, what to replace it with. I am considering Soundown products. An opinions out there? What should I use? Gary S/V High Maintenance '90 CC 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
