Re: Stus-List Cabin Folding Table

[Mike Brannon via CnC-List]

Tom,  the table in my 78 was also attached to the mast track.   I've had the 
table out for a while.  When I locate the parts and pieces I'll send pictures.  

Mike 
Virginia Lee  1978 C 36 CB 
Virginia Beach, VA

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> On Dec 31, 2015, at 22:29, S Thomas via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I also bought a 1980 model C 36 that is in need of TLC, in November of this 
> year.
> The folding table on mine has a plastic pedestal at one end, and is fastened 
> to the mast track at the other.
>  
> Steve Thomas
> C MKI
> Merritt Island, FL
>  
> C MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
> - Original Message -
> From: Tom Alessi via CnC-List
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Tom Alessi
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 19:44
> Subject: Stus-List Cabin Folding Table
> 
> Hi,
> I'm new to the group. A year ago I purchased a 1980 C 36 that's in need of 
> TLC.
> The interior folding table was not in place when I took possession and I was 
> wondering if, in addition to the base attachment, is there an additional 
> fastening system to the mast?
>  
> Tom Alessi
> S/V ANDIAMO
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Stus-List Fwd: Clever storage modifications?

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

Andy; great ideadid you put some sort of a box or restrainer in the liner 
area to hold to tools?   They're in a box, I assume?  Any photos?  Thanks


Richard
1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Clever storage modifications?



The section of sole under my nav table, where I put my feet, was just screwed 
down to the interior liner. I pulled it up and cut a hole in the liner, 
accessing an area big enough for tool storage so I can use the top drawer for 
something else. It's far enough aft and high enough that any bilge water 
doesn't find its way up there. I hinged the teak and holly to be a lid.


Andy
C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
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Re: Stus-List Cabin Folding Table

[Sophia Weber via CnC-List]

On my 29, there are two screw holes in the mast where it attaches. Do you see 
screw holes on yours?

  Original Message  
From: Mike Brannon
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 09:04
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cabin Folding Table

Tom, the table in my 78 was also attached to the mast track. I've had the table 
out for a while. When I locate the parts and pieces I'll send pictures. 

Mike 
Virginia Lee 1978 C 36 CB 
Virginia Beach, VA

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> On Dec 31, 2015, at 22:29, S Thomas via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I also bought a 1980 model C 36 that is in need of TLC, in November of this 
> year.
> The folding table on mine has a plastic pedestal at one end, and is fastened 
> to the mast track at the other.
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C MKI
> Merritt Island, FL
> 
> C MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
> - Original Message -
> From: Tom Alessi via CnC-List
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Tom Alessi
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 19:44
> Subject: Stus-List Cabin Folding Table
> 
> Hi,
> I'm new to the group. A year ago I purchased a 1980 C 36 that's in need of 
> TLC.
> The interior folding table was not in place when I took possession and I was 
> wondering if, in addition to the base attachment, is there an additional 
> fastening system to the mast?
> 
> Tom Alessi
> S/V ANDIAMO
> tagraph...@optonline.net
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Clever storage modifications?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I do have some store bought plastic trays in there. The tools are loose, it's 
just the ones I use all the time; screwdrivers, adjustable wrench, pliers a 
cheap, basic socket set and a hammer.
I'll get some pics next time I'm up at the boat.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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> On Jan 2, 2016, at 13:43, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Andy; great ideadid you put some sort of a box or restrainer in the liner 
> area to hold to tools?   They're in a box, I assume?  Any photos?  Thanks
> 
> Richard
> 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
> Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2016 10:54 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Clever storage modifications?
> 
> The section of sole under my nav table, where I put my feet, was just screwed 
> down to the interior liner. I pulled it up and cut a hole in the liner, 
> accessing an area big enough for tool storage so I can use the top drawer for 
> something else. It's far enough aft and high enough that any bilge water 
> doesn't find its way up there. I hinged the teak and holly to be a lid.
> 
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
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Re: Stus-List Clever storage modifications?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

The section of sole under my nav table, where I put my feet, was just screwed 
down to the interior liner. I pulled it up and cut a hole in the liner, 
accessing an area big enough for tool storage so I can use the top drawer for 
something else. It's far enough aft and high enough that any bilge water 
doesn't find its way up there. I hinged the teak and holly to be a lid.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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> On Jan 1, 2016, at 14:52, Dave Syer via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Working on my saloon table today got me wondering about what others may have 
> done to improve the utility of their boat's interior.  The table in the 33ii 
> is pretty decent for what it is, with a solid teak trestle like base 
> incoprporating a storage compartment accerssible from the top, and folding 
> nicely edged with teak.  I was able to find a set of lighweight plastic 
> canisters which fit perfectly in that space and a lot of food items get 
> stowed there.
> 
> At each end of the table there is space between the leaves.  On the forward 
> end I have mounted a fire extinguisher, and on the aft end I have mounted a 
> dual nissan/thermos holder I made out of acrylic plastic.  Very handy, and a 
> reasonably elegant design.  .   (The thermoses are great, and can keep water 
> hot for two days.  Great for my son's instant Ramen noodles -latter day hard 
> tack- or my constant supply of coffee.)   I noticed today that I may be able 
> to fit a small holder for paper napkins at one end of the table and also 
> maybe for salt and pepper shakers at the other.  Will ponder how to approach 
> this with some craft.   I notice there is also a couple inches of space 
> below the table, between its legs, just begging for use.
> Cutlery is already stowed in a fitted acrylic insert in the stock galley 
> drawer. 
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2015/12/custom-cutlery-drawer-organizer-in.html
> 
> 
> Does anybody have any mods/ideas they'd be willing to share? 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Greg Arnold via CnC-List]

  
  
Can you raise up the Water Witch switch so it is
  several inches above the water that drains back into the bilge?
  
  We recently installed the same switch in a Catalina 400 to
  eliminate the problem you have.  The advantage of the Water Witch
  is that it keeps running for a while after water goes below the
  switch, so the water level can end up considerably below the
  switch, and even the water draining back into the bilge will not
  put the water back at the level of the switch.
  

On 1/2/2016 1:52 PM, Joel Aronson via
  CnC-List wrote:

I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a
  waterwhich. When the when the switch activates the bilge pump, the
  bilge is pumped relatively dry. However when the pump shuts off
  water flows back into the bilge and so the pump is running in an
  endless loop. I see my alternatives as installing a check valve or
  installing a different brand of switch. I believe I previously had
  a Johnson switch. 
  
  
   any recommendations
  Joel
  35/3
  Annapolis 
  
  
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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Despite the "conventional wisdom" against check valves in bilge discharges,
I've had one in Touche' for a decade and a half with no issues whatsoever.
I think the secret is the type of check valve one installs.  Jabsco, Whale
and Bosworth make check valves for bilge discharges.  I have this one:
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/bosworth--nylon-in-line-check-valves--P011_332_003_515

The bilge in the 35-1 has so little volume that my 1500 gph centrifugal
pump just spurts and stops.  If it were not for the check valve, I'd simply
be filling and draining the hose continuously.

Your other choice would be a diaphragm pump (which I think Joel said he
already has).

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I think that there is general consensus that a check valve in a bilge pump
> hose is not a good thing.
>
>
>
> But honestly I don’t have a good solution for avoiding the water coming
> back.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
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Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a waterwhich. When the when
the switch activates the bilge pump, the bilge is pumped relatively dry.
However when the pump shuts off water flows back into the bilge and so the
pump is running in an endless loop. I see my alternatives as installing a
check valve or installing a different brand of switch. I believe I
previously had a Johnson switch.

 any recommendations
Joel
35/3
Annapolis


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Re: Stus-List dinghy davits

[David via CnC-List]

Yup.  Two dinghy's;

Local AIB RIB with a not-to-be removed (I like my back) 8hp 4 cycle for local 
semi-controlled conditions. As in, if its that bad out, I am not leaving 
anyway.High pressure floor Avon with a very movable 4hp 2 cycle for Gulf of 
Maine or heading down to the Chesapeake offshore etc.   

Only time a dink flipped on me was in Newport harbor in the middle of the 
not-so-bad night.  WTF?   Like a big hand reached out and just flipped it.  


David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 18:09:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List dinghy davits
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: j...@dellabarba.com

I have towed this dinghy a *lot* in all kinds of weather, some much much worse 
than that video. I am not saying the dinghy cannot capsize, but it has never 
showed any signs of being even close in the kind of weather we have here in the 
Chesapeake. If it was going to flip, between it and the previous one it would 
have between 2001 and now. The dinghy would be unusable if it could not be 
towed engine on, there is no way I would be constantly getting a long shaft 15 
HP engine on and off of it every time we moved the boat. I have had my old Dyer 
flip under tow, which was a large PITA.  If I even need a dinghy I can deflate, 
I will likely get this thing and a 2-3 HP engine for it. If I didn’t deflate it 
I would take the engine off and tie the bow up in the air to the stern rail, 
which would make capsizing a 
non-event.http://www.boatstogo.com/inflatable_boat_AM365.asp Joe Della 
barba...@dellabarba.com CoquinaC 35 MK I From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sailnomad via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Sailnomad 
Subject: Re: Stus-List dinghy davits That is good to see, and probably the 
norm. But it is like saying, 15 years of driving without a seatbelt, and 
nothing happend. I suspect most of us never had to say "I am glad I had my 
seatbelt on" I had regular dinghys flying circles in the air like kites. I have 
heard of Life Rafts doing the same. I have not experienced an overturned RIB, 
with or without motor, but I know that under the right circumstances, it can 
happen.  Now we may not wonder out under those circumstances, but still, common 
nautical wisdom generally says not to tow the dinghy with the motor on for the 
reasons I explained in the previous email. Now they also say never go to the 
fore-deck without a PFD, always wear shoes, never have a beer while sailing   
etc etc, and we all selectively do whatever we feel comfortable with.I am 
probably guilty of breaking all of those rules at one time or another. On a 
separate note, I found it to be most efficient to adjust the line such that the 
dinghy rides down your bow wave to minimize the drag. On longer trips with 
following waves having two lines in a bridle keeps the dinghy tamed. 
AhmetTabasco C 25Waterdancer Irwin 43 CCBoston, MA  On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 
8:30 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  wrote:This is our 
dinghy under tow. In 15 years of RIB with engine-on towing I have never had an 
issue other than the drag.http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/dinghy.mp4  Joe 
Della barba...@dellabarba.com Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Don't know how big the hose is, but smaller would leave less to drain.  I also  
have an electronic switch,  - it is pumped through a Whale diaphragm pump,  
which doesn't seem to allow much drain  back. It is also not high volume,  so 
an additional centrifugal pump is also helpful. 


Bill Coleman C 39 Erie PA

 Original message 
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
Date: 01/02/2016  4:52 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson  
Subject: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help 

I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a waterwhich. When the when the 
switch activates the bilge pump, the bilge is pumped relatively dry. However 
when the pump shuts off water flows back into the bilge and so the pump is 
running in an endless loop. I see my alternatives as installing a check valve 
or installing a different brand of switch. I believe I previously had a Johnson 
switch. 
 any recommendationsJoel35/3Annapolis 

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Re: Stus-List Interesting photos of waves on L. Erie

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

Thank you!  Unbelievably scary and beautiful the same time.

Leslie.
 

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 Subject: Stus-List Interesting photos of waves on L. Erie
 To: "C List" 
 Cc: "Marek Dziedzic" 
 Date: Thursday, December 31, 2015, 1:48 PM
 
  I thought some of you may
 find this interesting: crashing
 waves  I found the link on
 SBO.    Marek  Sent from Mail
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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Sailnomad via CnC-List]

You can do one of the following:
- Raise the mounting of the water witch.
- Use a smaller diameter, or shorter hose

Check valves are designed for preventing instantaneous backflow.
Pretty much all of them will eventually leak the water back into the bilge,
so you will still cycle, only with a longer period.
If you want to go that road, you can install a normally closed valve that
opens when the bilge pump comes on.
However, this adds complication to the system which is never a good thing.
I prefer a small bilge pump (500 gph) with a small diameter (3/8 id) hose
to keep the bilge dry, and a larger (2000 gph) one (1-1/2 id) with a higher
float switch if more pumping is needed.
Ahmet
Boston, MA

On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a waterwhich. When the when
> the switch activates the bilge pump, the bilge is pumped relatively dry.
> However when the pump shuts off water flows back into the bilge and so the
> pump is running in an endless loop. I see my alternatives as installing a
> check valve or installing a different brand of switch. I believe I
> previously had a Johnson switch.
>
>  any recommendations
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
>
>
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> 301 541 8551
>
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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I think that there is general consensus that a check valve in a bilge pump hose 
is not a good thing.

 

But honestly I don’t have a good solution for avoiding the water coming back.

 

Marek

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of S Thomas via 
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Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 17:52
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

 

While it would not be my choice, if you do decide to install a check valve, 
install it where you can get at it. They do stick shut sometimes, and for no 
obvious reason. Happened on a boat that I was crewing off the west coast of 
Vancouver Island. Nearly changed out the electric pump before we thought to 
check the check. 

 

Steve Thomas

C MKIII

Port Stanley, ON  

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From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List   

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com   

Cc: Joel Aronson   

Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 16:52

Subject: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

 

I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a waterwhich. When the when the 
switch activates the bilge pump, the bilge is pumped relatively dry. However 
when the pump shuts off water flows back into the bilge and so the pump is 
running in an endless loop. I see my alternatives as installing a check valve 
or installing a different brand of switch. I believe I previously had a Johnson 
switch.  

 

 any recommendations

Joel

35/3

Annapolis 



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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

While it would not be my choice, if you do decide to install a check valve, 
install it where you can get at it. They do stick shut sometimes, and for no 
obvious reason. Happened on a boat that I was crewing off the west coast of 
Vancouver Island. Nearly changed out the electric pump before we thought to 
check the check. 

Steve Thomas
C MKIII
Port Stanley, ON  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Joel Aronson 
  Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 16:52
  Subject: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help


  I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a waterwhich. When the when 
the switch activates the bilge pump, the bilge is pumped relatively dry. 
However when the pump shuts off water flows back into the bilge and so the pump 
is running in an endless loop. I see my alternatives as installing a check 
valve or installing a different brand of switch. I believe I previously had a 
Johnson switch. 


   any recommendations
  Joel
  35/3
  Annapolis 


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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[William Walker via CnC-List]

I bought a check valve from Grainger plumbing five years ago a d wouldn't look 
back.   Keep your bilge clean and you won't have a problem.  Installed right 
next to bilge pump so access easy.  
Raise switch a little, put in che Ck valve. Done.
Bill Walker
CnC 36

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On Saturday, January 2, 2016 Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:

Despite the "conventional wisdom" against check valves in bilge discharges, 
I've had one in Touche' for a decade and a half with no issues whatsoever.  I 
think the secret is the type of check valve one installs.  Jabsco, Whale and 
Bosworth make check valves for bilge discharges.  I have this one:  
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/bosworth--nylon-in-line-check-valves--P011_332_003_515


The bilge in the 35-1 has so little volume that my 1500 gph centrifugal pump 
just spurts and stops.  If it were not for the check valve, I'd simply be 
filling and draining the hose continuously.

Your other choice would be a diaphragm pump (which I think Joel said he already 
has).

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA


On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I think that there is general consensus that a check valve in a bilge pump hose 
is not a good thing.

 

But honestly I don’t have a good solution for avoiding the water coming back.

 

Marek

 


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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Raising it doesn't help. Just more water in the bilge. The pump is a Whale.

Joel

On Saturday, January 2, 2016, Sailnomad via CnC-List 
wrote:

> You can do one of the following:
> - Raise the mounting of the water witch.
> - Use a smaller diameter, or shorter hose
>
> Check valves are designed for preventing instantaneous backflow.
> Pretty much all of them will eventually leak the water back into the bilge,
> so you will still cycle, only with a longer period.
> If you want to go that road, you can install a normally closed valve that
> opens when the bilge pump comes on.
> However, this adds complication to the system which is never a good thing.
> I prefer a small bilge pump (500 gph) with a small diameter (3/8 id) hose
> to keep the bilge dry, and a larger (2000 gph) one (1-1/2 id) with a higher
> float switch if more pumping is needed.
> Ahmet
> Boston, MA
>
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I replaced my automatic bilge pump switch with a waterwhich. When the
>> when the switch activates the bilge pump, the bilge is pumped relatively
>> dry. However when the pump shuts off water flows back into the bilge and so
>> the pump is running in an endless loop. I see my alternatives as installing
>> a check valve or installing a different brand of switch. I believe I
>> previously had a Johnson switch.
>>
>>  any recommendations
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List (no subject)

[Rick Rohwer via CnC-List]

Chuck
For my two bits, Sterling Hayden wrote some damn fine books.  They lit me up!

Rick
Paikea 37+
Poulsbo, WA (damn it’s cold)

> On Dec 31, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Dave via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Whynott - a new one for the list- thanks.   wanderer is great, re read many 
> times.  Sterling Hayden was an intriguing guy, lived through interesting 
> times.  Voyage is very good too.  
> Dave
> 
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:59:18 -0500
> From: "Chuck Gilchrest"  >
> To: >
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter sailing reads...
> Message-ID: <002101d14405$bc3db160$34b91420$@comcast.net 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
> 
> All,
> One of my favorite reads that involves sailing and boat building is Douglass
> Whynott's "A Unit of Water, A Unit of Time", which is a non-fiction account
> of the last boat built by Joel White at Brooklin Boatyard in Maine (the son
> of writer EB White as well as being a prolific naval architect).  The book
> is a quiet book, best enjoyed in front of a fireplace with a few Benjamin
> Mendlowitz calendars and coffee table books available for reference photos
> of the various boats mentioned in the text.  
> Chuck Gilchrest
> Half Magic
> 1975 25 mk 1
> S/V Orion
> 1983 35 Landfall 
> Padanaram, MA 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Martin
> DeYoung via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:29 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Martin DeYoung >
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter sailing reads...
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> If you enjoy Sterling Hayden's Wanderer, look for a copy of his novel
> "Voyage". IIRC it is set in 1900 and begins on a dark and stormy night in
> Boston harbor.  In short it is a story of a clipper ship hauling coal around
> the horn to San Francisco.
> 
> For years I carried paperback copies of Wanderer or Voyage to read on
> offshore passages and never got tired of re-reading them.
> 
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C 43
> Seattle
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Burton via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:32 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Andrew Burton
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter sailing reads...
> 
> Rereading Wanderer, by Sterling Hayden. Great great book!
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett 
> Newport, RI 
> USA    02840 
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ 
> 
> +401 965-5260 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2015, at 17:37, Dave via CnC-List > >
> wrote:
>> 
>> Just finished 'Moxie' by Phil weld - great book, impressive man.
>> In the same vein, about t re-read 'around the world alone' by Alain Colas.
> 
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Re: Stus-List (no subject)

[jtsails via CnC-List]

Currently reading Dewey Lambdin. Not the easiest to read but his books are 
rapidly climbing to the top of favorites list. I also enjoy anything written by 
James L. Nelson. And there are always the traditional picks of C. S. Forester, 
Alexander Kent, and Patrick O’Brian. For a change of pace, I like Randy Wayne 
White’s “ Doc Ford” series and for a light quick read I go to original Clive 
Cussler books. Oh, and I shouldn’t leave out the Dudley Pope “Ramage” series!
James Taylor
“Delaney”
C 38 Mk11
Oriental, NC

From: Rick Rohwer via CnC-List 
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List (no subject)

Chuck 
For my two bits, Sterling Hayden wrote some damn fine books.  They lit me up!

Rick
Paikea 37+
Poulsbo, WA (damn it’s cold)

  On Dec 31, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Dave via CnC-List  wrote:

  Whynott - a new one for the list- thanks.   wanderer is great, re read many 
times.  Sterling Hayden was an intriguing guy, lived through interesting times. 
 Voyage is very good too.  
  Dave


  Message: 12
  Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:59:18 -0500
  From: "Chuck Gilchrest" 
  To: 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter sailing reads...
  Message-ID: <002101d14405$bc3db160$34b91420$@comcast.net>
  Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"

  All,
  One of my favorite reads that involves sailing and boat building is Douglass
  Whynott's "A Unit of Water, A Unit of Time", which is a non-fiction account
  of the last boat built by Joel White at Brooklin Boatyard in Maine (the son
  of writer EB White as well as being a prolific naval architect).  The book
  is a quiet book, best enjoyed in front of a fireplace with a few Benjamin
  Mendlowitz calendars and coffee table books available for reference photos
  of the various boats mentioned in the text.  
  Chuck Gilchrest
  Half Magic
  1975 25 mk 1
  S/V Orion
  1983 35 Landfall
  Padanaram, MA

  -Original Message-
  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin
  DeYoung via CnC-List
  Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:29 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Martin DeYoung 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter sailing reads...

  Andrew,

  If you enjoy Sterling Hayden's Wanderer, look for a copy of his novel
  "Voyage". IIRC it is set in 1900 and begins on a dark and stormy night in
  Boston harbor.  In short it is a story of a clipper ship hauling coal around
  the horn to San Francisco.

  For years I carried paperback copies of Wanderer or Voyage to read on
  offshore passages and never got tired of re-reading them.

  Martin DeYoung
  Calypso
  1971 C 43
  Seattle

  -Original Message-
  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
  Burton via CnC-List
  Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:32 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Andrew Burton
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter sailing reads...

  Rereading Wanderer, by Sterling Hayden. Great great book!

  Andrew Burton
  61 W Narragansett
  Newport, RI
  USA02840

  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
  +401 965-5260


On Dec 30, 2015, at 17:37, Dave via CnC-List 
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Just finished 'Moxie' by Phil weld - great book, impressive man.

In the same vein, about t re-read 'around the world alone' by Alain Colas.


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Stus-List Bilge pump switch

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

When I was looking to replace my automatic bilge pump switch, the Water Witch 
was high on my list of choices until I read this note on the Water Witch 
website. 






NOTE:   



If large amounts of rain water can enter the bilge, it may dilute the normal, 
fresh or salt, water outside oursensitivity window. Corrective action can be to 
switch pump on manually to remove diluted water or toadd minerals such as salt, 
baking soda, bilge cleaners, etc... NORMAL FRESH WATER HAS AMPLEMINERAL CONTENT 
FOR PROPER OPERATION. 


Since the only water coming into my boat is rainwater from the keel stepped 
mast, the Water Witch was no longer a viable option. Some people who install 
this switch may not be aware of this shortcoming which can cause unexpected non 
performance. 


Ted Drossos
Long Island, NY
C 29-2 (for sale)  
C 110



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Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switch

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I like the Ultra Safety Systems bilge switches.

http://www.tefgel.com/contain.php?param=pumpswitch_price

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Ted Drossos via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> When I was looking to replace my automatic bilge pump switch, the Water
> Witch was high on my list of choices until I read this note on the Water
> Witch website.
>
> NOTE:[image: page2image20160] [image: page2image20328] [image:
> page2image20496] [image: page2image20664]
> If large amounts of rain water can enter the bilge, it may dilute the
> normal, fresh or salt, water outside our sensitivity window. Corrective
> action can be to switch pump on manually to remove diluted water or to add
> minerals such as salt, baking soda, bilge cleaners, etc... NORMAL FRESH
> WATER HAS AMPLE MINERAL CONTENT FOR PROPER OPERATION.
>
> Since the only water coming into my boat is rainwater from the keel
> stepped mast, the Water Witch was no longer a viable option. Some people
> who install this switch may not be aware of this shortcoming which can
> cause unexpected non performance.
>
> Ted Drossos
> Long Island, NY
> C 29-2 (for sale)
> C 110
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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

That's what I use for a check valve too. Nobody 
ever blamed us for being conventional and no mention of wise either. :)


I have a Whale low profile stuffed way down below 
the mast as well. It dries the bilge much better than the old system.

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/whale-pumps--super-sub-pumps--P011_330_001_544

It is true that check valves reduce pump capacity 
but this application is a wee pump doing a 
regular maintenance function so it won't matter 
if it is on a few more seconds in each 
cycle.  For urgent work, put in the largest pump 
you can and id doesn't need to be in the "ideal" location.



Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
B.C South Coast, it's freezing here


At 04:27 PM 02/01/2016, you wrote:
Despite the "conventional wisdom" against check 
valves in bilge discharges, I've had one in 
Touche' for a decade and a half with no issues 
whatsoever.  I think the secret is the type of 
check valve one installs.  Jabsco, Whale and 
Bosworth make check valves for bilge 
discharges.  I have this 
one:Â 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/bosworth--nylon-in-line-check-valves--P011_332_003_515


The bilge in the 35-1 has so little volume that 
my 1500 gph centrifugal pump just spurts and 
stops.  If it were not for the check valve, I'd 
simply be filling and draining the hose continuously.


Your other choice would be a diaphragm pump 
(which I think Joel said he already has).


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Marek Dziedzic 
via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


I think that there is general consensus that a 
check valve in a bilge pump hose is not a good thing.


Â

But honestly I don’t have a good solution for 
avoiding the water coming back.


Â

Marek

Â


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